valuev should have at least 3 losses

**Eno** · 10-08-2006, 10:34 PM

You forget he still has Don King.

**realheavyhands** · 10-08-2006, 10:37 PM

that is true. so somebody will have to knock him out at least for his first loss..vitali could do it or lennox im not sure wlad could do it...i like to see toney fight him

**FeelTheA-Force** · 10-08-2006, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by Eno

You forget he still has Don King.

and that bastard of a manager/promoter that cheated pantera

**dino** · 10-09-2006, 01:11 AM

why do you dumb asses keep saying john ruiz and larry donald beat him...you people dont know how to judge boxing matches

j · 10-09-2006, 01:26 AM

now that hes fighting in the US the losses should pile up however i wouldnt mind him getting some easy fight just to beat marcianos record

true, but i was thinking that with hatton's style, he would have more trouble with the refs here in the U.S.

not to mention samuel peter's trademark rabbit punch which continues to get overlooked for some reason.

as for marciano's record, i personally couldn't care less if he ties it, breaks it, or doesn't make it. it's just a shame that he has over 40 fights and he still fighting B and C class opponents. whatever happened to standards?

why do you dumb asses keep saying john ruiz and larry donald beat him...you people dont know how to judge boxing matches

donald beat him.....and it is widely accepted.

**joeytrimble** · 10-09-2006, 03:40 AM

god yall can do that with ANYBODYS record .. ali suposedly lost 2 of the the 3 norton battles plus other fights so should we say his record should be worst?

everybodys had close fights ...it only matters if there a certain type of people though right?

**MaYaN_SuN** · 10-09-2006, 04:04 AM

I couldnt stop laughin when this guy came in the ring

**Shot** · 10-09-2006, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by realheavyhands

ruiz won a close fight , donald put on a boxing clinic , and little known power puncher gerald nobles was beating valuev so bad they had to disqulify him for low blows ...now that hes fighting in the US the losses should pile up however i wouldnt mind him getting some easy fight just to beat marcianos record

The Ruiz and Donald fight was close.

I don't recall a fight with as many low blows as the Nobles one. Nobles either tried to foul himself out of the fight or was simply to attracted to Valuevs nuts.

**Southpaw Stinger** · 10-09-2006, 07:58 AM

as for marciano's record, i personally couldn't care less if he ties it, breaks it, or doesn't make it. it's just a shame that he has over 40 fights and he still fighting B and C class opponents. whatever happened to standards?

He's had 1 no contest so Marciano's record is safe.

valuev should have at least 3 losses