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  • Mr. Ryan
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    #11
    Originally posted by Mishra100
    Why is everyone so obsessed with Marciano's records when there are tons of other people that have had more impressive scores than Marciano that were not heavyweights?

    For example... Julio Ceasar Chavez... 89-0 before his first loss.
    Valuev's 45-0 record is probably better than Chavez's 45-0 record, and Yori Campas.

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    • Abe Attell
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      #12
      Originally posted by Mishra100
      Why is everyone so obsessed with Marciano's records when there are tons of other people that have had more impressive scores than Marciano that were not heavyweights?

      For example... Julio Ceasar Chavez... 89-0 before his first loss.

      Marciano's record is not that impressive compared to Ali's, just look at who they fought and when and you will see what I am talking about.

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      • Mishra100
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        #13
        Originally posted by Abe Attell
        Marciano's record is not that impressive compared to Ali's, just look at who they fought and when and you will see what I am talking about.
        I think most people are refering to the undefeated scores of boxers... They don't even take into consideration the people they have fought. Thats why I mentioned JCC because he is a good example. I would definitely say Ali has a better resume than Marciano.

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        • joeytrimble
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          #14
          ali has the best heavyweight resume of all time bar none


          there see all the people calling me a racist can stick it

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            #15
            Valuev will not hit 50-0 facing top quality guys at all. Although...it is hard to imagine anyone that can break that guy's gargantuan head. I think you'll break your hand hitting it as hard as you can. So let's say he passes 49-0, then what? Retires without facing a true contender? Nobody will care.

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            • Abe Attell
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              #16
              If he fights Wlad, I think he will lose


              You have to hit him directly on the chin, not the other 95% of the head

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                #17
                Originally posted by ELPacman
                Valuev will not hit 50-0 facing top quality guys at all. Although...it is hard to imagine anyone that can break that guy's gargantuan head. I think you'll break your hand hitting it as hard as you can. So let's say he passes 49-0, then what? Retires without facing a true contender? Nobody will care.
                There were actually a couple of times throughout the Barrett fight that I thought Barrett broke his hand after hitting Valuev. This guy barely moves when getting hit so its like boxing a concrete wall.

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                • BmoreBrawler
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                  #18
                  If Valuev unifies the titles then its legit. If not, the record is crap.

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                  • redxl7
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                    #19
                    It would be disgraceful if he went for Marciano's record. The Rock took on the best his era had to offer, Valeuv hasn't took on one top-notch fighter.

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                    • Abe Attell
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by redxl7
                      It would be disgraceful if he went for Marciano's record. The Rock took on the best his era had to offer, Valeuv hasn't took on one top-notch fighter.
                      Well if you really look at it, Valy is fighting guys over 200lbs

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