Toney vs. Valuev

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  • Mishra100
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    #21
    Geezus... Toney is like 5'10... Valuev is 7'0 and maybe even 7'3.. No way that Toney could ever reach Valuev's face... This would be a horrible fight and I would never want to see it.

    The only thing Toney could do is jab him in the body and if you have seen Valuev's fights, body shots doesn't do much to him.

    Lets just throw Ricky Hatton in there at 5'6 with Valuev to make even more disgustingly uneven fights.
    Last edited by Mishra100; 10-08-2006, 01:27 PM.

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    • raymon123
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      #22
      I would love to see this fight but ppl is underrated valuev power cause he does have power punch. Valuev trainer made it clear that he is teaching valuev to how to punch soft stif punches like the jab to make it quick. And if valuev have to he would throw his big punch " like he did vs barrett in the 11th round" and boom it's over. Toney vs valuev would be a fight i would love to watch but isn't toney 5'9 or 5'11? i think he's 5'9 well either way, i just don't see a very smaller toney to out box the huge 7 feet giant. Can toney even land a punch way up to valuev? i see valuev winning in an easy decision by putting his huge body on toney and tired toney big belly out.

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      • SnoopySmurf
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        #23
        I can't believe people are giving Valuev the nod to win over JT because he beat Monte Barrett. Monte is a bum. Just look at last year's fight between Larry Donald and Valuev. Larry Donald beat Valuev to the punch all night. But the German judges were paid to give the win to Valuev.

        Don't be fooled by this side show freak.

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        • Zerwas1
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          #24
          James Toney 5' 10
          Valuev 7' 0

          Toney would need to jump to hit him on his face.
          I go with with Valuev

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          • SnoopySmurf
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            #25
            Originally posted by Zerwas1
            James Toney 5' 10
            Valuev 7' 0

            Toney would need to jump to hit him on his face.
            I go with with Valuev
            The bodyshots are also scored. I seriously doubt Valuev could land a solid punch on Toney. Too slow and too predictable.

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            • kayjay
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              #26
              Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
              The bodyshots are also scored. I seriously doubt Valuev could land a solid punch on Toney. Too slow and too predictable.
              Sure but I would have a hard time scoring any of Toney's little pecks against Valuev. For a punch to score it has to at least have the potential to hurt the opponent. In this fight one guy is completely incapable of hurting the other. Toney would look good, even better than usual, but I can't imagine him being actually effective.

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              • Welter_Skelter
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                #27
                James Toney fans are delusional...FACE IT!!! the man is not an ELITE heavyweight... At lower weights maybe.. But he cannot get it done against best of the division.. Example Wlad VS Peter, Toney VS Peter.. Wlad Dominated the fight despit 2 illeagle KD punches.. Toney could barely squeak out a win.. and in alot of peoples Eyes rightly lost.. SO how would the 5'9" Toney have any chance against a guy a foot and half taller who seems to be able to take a punch pretty well? Answer... he cant .. Valuev by a lopsided descion or TKO

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                • SnoopySmurf
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                  James Toney fans are delusional...FACE IT!!! the man is not an ELITE heavyweight... At lower weights maybe.. But he cannot get it done against best of the division.. Example Wlad VS Peter, Toney VS Peter.. Wlad Dominated the fight despit 2 illeagle KD punches.. Toney could barely squeak out a win.. and in alot of peoples Eyes rightly lost.. SO how would the 5'9" Toney have any chance against a guy a foot and half taller who seems to be able to take a punch pretty well? Answer... he cant .. Valuev by a lopsided descion or TKO
                  Valuev wouldn't be able to touch him. JT by wide and undesputed decision.

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                  • Kid Achilles
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                    #29
                    Everyone said Peter would be too slow and sloppy to land on Toney, yet he tagged him with the jab again and again. Toney just can't parry a jab like he used to. Compare his defense against the jab in the Ruiz fight to the Rahman fight and you can clearly see his reflexes aren't what they were just a few years ago. If a slow jabber like Peter can land the jab on Toney, why can't Valuev do it? Valuev is a better jabber than Peter if you ask me, and certainly has more reach with the punch.

                    I truly cannot see Toney winning this fight. He's too small to have success at long range and does not hit hard enough to have a punchers chance when the fight does go to the inside. He's faded late in his last few fights. He gassed when Rahman got physical with him, and Valuev is stronger than Rahman. How is he going to have any stamina in the 10th, 11th, and 12th rounds when a man much taller and heavier has been leaning on him in every clinch? I think Toney would get decisioned, winning at the most 3-4 rounds. This is not a knock on his skills, just his lack of size and punching power.

                    Toney gets a lot of credit from me for holding his own with Samuel Peter, but Valuev is just too big for him.

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                    • -Antonio-
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                      #30
                      At first I was saying Toney would easilly win, then I saw Valuev again and just had to think common sense. 7 foot versus 5'9. 350 versus 230. I just dont see anyway for Toney to be able to do enough to win.

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