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  • Piggu
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    #21
    Originally posted by Bozo_no no
    This is exactly what people were saying about Tony when Floyd didn't want to fight him.

    Margarito's resume and stature isn't so high that he can dismiss Williams because of his resume.

    Matthyesse was a very big puncher, and Williams walked through it and came back with huge fire. That was an impressive win.

    For a guy who's career win is Cintron, Margarito isn't in a position where he can say his #1 contender hasn't earned the right to fight him.

    He has, and it's a fight that makes sense for Margarito in other aspects such as fighting a noteworthy opponent and taking care of his mandatory defense, which he hasn't done in a year.
    I think he should fight Williams after he fights Clottey. What do you think of him fighting Clottey? Is Clottey a reasonable challenger?

    And I wasn't saying anything about Matthyesse's punching power I was saying that Williams took odd shots that he should have been blocking, such as a looping right to the stomach.

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    • Bozo_no no
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      #22
      Originally posted by Piggu
      I think he should fight Williams after he fights Clottey. What do you think of him fighting Clottey? Is Clottey a reasonable challenger?

      And I wasn't saying anything about Matthyesse's punching power I was saying that Williams took odd shots that he should have been blocking, such as a looping right to the stomach.
      A) I think he should have fought Williams in December, not Clottey. There was every reason to take the Williams fight and he opted for a lesser challenge. To me, that's very ironic and hypocritical given what he was just going on about in the media with Floyd.

      He should have embraced the challenge and made a big specticle of fighting Williams in December.

      Clottey is a good prospect, but Williams is the better looking and more accomplished fighter of the two by far. He's #1 in the WBO, Clottey's #5.

      B) One of Williams' downside is that he takes too many punches, but he's aware of this and says he does so to land more. He averages 100 punches thrown per round, and he shook off huge shots from Mattheysse like they were nothing and kept firing. If he takea a few to land 10, I think he's doing okay.

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      • Piggu
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        #23
        Originally posted by raymon123
        Very well said, matty was also undefeated and had the record of 25 wins with 24 ko's when he fought williams and williams took those punches well.
        Against nobodies in Argentina. He was a big fish in a small pond.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Bozo_no no
          A) I think he should have fought Williams in December, not Clottey. There was every reason to take the Williams fight and he opted for a lesser challenge. To me, that's very ironic and hypocritical given what he was just going on about in the media with Floyd.

          He should have embraced the challenge and made a big specticle of fighting Williams in December.

          Clottey is a good prospect, but Williams is the better looking and more accomplished fighter of the two by far. He's #1 in the WBO, Clottey's #5.

          B) One of Williams' downside is that he takes too many punches, but he's aware of this and says he does so to land more. He averages 100 punches thrown per round, and he shook off huge shots from Mattheysse like they were nothing and kept firing. If he takea a few to land 10, I think he's doing okay.
          Not to change the subject, but would a Margarito-Williams fight be televised by HBO? Don't infer anything from my question, I just want to know. Does Williams have a contract with HBO for several fights or does HBO book the fights one at a time?

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            #25
            Originally posted by Piggu
            Against nobodies in Argentina. He was a big fish in a small pond.
            It's really difficult to say the things you're saying without sounding hypocritical.

            If Matthyesse wasn't a good win, what's Clottey going to be?

            http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=009300

            Take a look for yourself. That's a lot of nobodies in the UK and Ghana.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Piggu
              Not to change the subject, but would a Margarito-Williams fight be televised by HBO? Don't infer anything from my question, I just want to know. Does Williams have a contract with HBO for several fights or does HBO book the fights one at a time?
              I would guess that it would.

              It would most likely be a Top Rank/ Goossen Tutor promotion carried by HBO.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Bozo_no no
                It's really difficult to say the things you're saying without sounding hypocritical.

                If Matthyesse wasn't a good win, what's Clottey going to be?

                http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=009300

                Take a look for yourself. That's a lot of nobodies in the UK and Ghana.
                thinking.......................................... ............

                Come to think of it Clottey hasn't fought anybody either.

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                  #28
                  How the **** is the Williams fight the one Margarito needs to take in order to get a title shot?....are you guy's joking? Williams hasn't even done what Margarito has and yet that fight will somehow make him blow up if he wins? People are just gonna say he beat an overly-hyped and untested fighter. The fact is, regardless of what Margarito does, he's not gonna get any credit. Margarito is gonna destroy Clottey and get no credit for it(Clottey was easily beating Baldomir till he lost by a questionable dq).....and about Rivera and Quintana, those two wanted nothing with Margarito...and why bring up smith?....if anything he's gonna get clowned on for fighting and beating a guy who wasn't good enough to win the contender.

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                  • Bozo_no no
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by HendrixLove
                    How the **** is the Williams fight the one Margarito needs to take in order to get a title shot?....are you guy's joking? Williams hasn't even done what Margarito has and yet that fight will somehow make him blow up if he wins? People are just gonna say he beat an overly-hyped and untested fighter.
                    Like I already said,

                    so that means he should go and take a lesser challenge?

                    Makes no sense.

                    All Margarito can do now for himself is to take the best fights possible and build up his resume.

                    Williams > Clottey.

                    It's just that simple.

                    Williams just came off back to back HBO cards where he looked very impressive.

                    A win over Williams trumps a win over Clottey.

                    And when Cintron is the biggest name on his resume, Margarito can use all the good wins he can get.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Bozo_no no
                      Like I already said,

                      so that means he should go and take a lesser challenge?

                      Makes no sense.

                      All Margarito can do now for himself is to take the best fights possible and build up his resume.

                      Williams > Clottey.

                      It's just that simple.

                      Williams just came off back to back HBO cards where he looked very impressive.

                      A win over Williams trumps a win over Clottey.

                      And when Cintron is the biggest name on his resume, Margarito can use all the good wins he can get.
                      It's funny how when rumors started about Margarito fighting Rivera, people starting saying Margarito was ducking Clottey and how Clottey would **** him up, know he's fighting him and people are saying he's a nobody. Clottey was whooping the ass of the man Floyd is fighting in Nov, and like I said, Margarito is gonna steam roll over this guy and get no credit. I hope Margarito does fight Williams soon after Clottey which I bet he will, but regardless, he's gonna beat him and get no credit.

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