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  • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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    The Next 5.............

    6. I was at the Blue Horizon one night in Philadelphia back in 1993 when thirty year old Calvin Grove fought the non stop punching machine that was Troy Dorsey. Grove wasn't known as a puncher at all, this was still one fight before he KO'd Jeff Fenech with one shot, and Dorsey had that rep for keeping tremendous pressure on his opponents. The ring at the Blue Horizon is small and soft (they love those wars in Philly and a soft small ring makes it all the more possible that you will see one). So it is pretty obvious that Grove will need to "stick and move" to beat this guy and that was a very feasible thought when he was a champion but this fight was a good five years after his championship days and the legs couldn't keep him away from a buzz saw like this for ten full rounds. Could they? Dorsey was less than two years removed from his own championship days and while he was the same age as Grove he had far, far less fights and rounds of wear and tear under his belt.

    Well, Calvin Grove did what he does best and Dorsey did what he does best, too. It was like a race on the clock. Could Dorsey wear Calvin out before the tenth bell rang? Could Calvin's old legs keep him upright and mobile for thirty full minutes of action? I remember each round was very similar to the previous one. Calvin was on his toes, boxing and moving, letting his hands go in pretty, but soft, combinations on the head and body of the on rushing Dorsey. I remember thinking "He will just keep winning rounds until he runs out of gas and then he will be finished." It was a fast paced fight, even without the small ring with the soft canvas.

    People might normally be inclined to only relate desire and heart with guys like Gatti and Holyfield that show time and time again that they can battle through brutal warfare and still win but I know that it also takes quite a bit of heart and willpower and discipline to box like Calvin did that night against an aggressive opponent under those circumstances. He must have felt like the ring was getting smaller and smaller as each round went on and probably thought a time or two about just stopping and letting Dorsey catch up to him but, no, he stayed on his toes and boxed his behind off for ten full rounds!! He won a unanimous decision when it was over and it was a nice win for him, too, but it wasn't like the crowd at the blue that night was falling all over themselves in excitement because unless you can really appreciate the abilities and will it takes to box for ten rounds like that you might just dismiss the fight as a "regular" boxing match. I am not one of those people, though, and I respected Calvin even more when I went into his old and dingy dressing room in the back of the Blue Horizon (picture the dressing room that Rocky Balboa and Spider Rico shared in the original ROCKY) and watched him as he lay down on one of the rubbing tables in the middle of the room with just his shorts on as someone poured cold water all over him. He looked so totally spent and exhausted, like he was starving for air, food and water all at once but at the same time he was too tired to do anything but lay there and soak it all in. That showed me what he had just put himself through and as a fellow professional I was inspired in a way because I recognized what it took for him to do so.

    I tip my hat to that guy.

    7. Vinny Pazienza-Gilbert Dele, WBA 154 pound title fight: In 1991 I sparred for the first time with Vinny Pazienza. I had a fight coming up against Randy Smith, a ten rounder at the "Big E" in Massachusetts in September and Paz had his WBA title try scheduled for a few days later with Gilbert Dele at the Providence Civic Center.

    Now, I believe that when many people think of Vinny as a boxer they think of a blood and guts brawler that gets cut a lot and usually has to fight through a lot of blood and punches to the head to win fights. Of course, Vinny is not above going that route if that's what it takes to get the best results but from sparring so many rounds with him, sometimes twelve at a time, I knew that when he decided to stick and move and be elusive he certainly had the ability to do that in good fashion. The man could BOX when he had to. His first two fights up to that point with Greg Haugen, though, were what most people remembered him for. All out wars!

    However, if you pop in a tape of his 1991 WBA title wining fight with Dele I think you will come away with a new respect for the guy and his boxing skills. I was there ringside and I remember at the time thinking how much his performance that night reminded me of the job Sugar Ray Leonard did against Marvin Hagler. It's usually the Mickey Ward-Arturo Gatti type wars that get the crowd deeply and loudly into fights but that night, with Vinny Paz showing off his elusive boxing skills (moving side to side with his hands low, shucking and jiving, shakin' and bakin'), the crowd was going crazy.

    Seeing Vinny make this guy miss three or four punches in a row brought as much cheering as Vinny landing three punches did and when it was stopped in the twelfth round Vinny was way ahead on the scorecards in a fight that I consider one of the best exhibitions of BOXING that I have ever seen.

    8. Buster Douglas KO-10 Mike Tyson, Tokyo. Come on now. If you choose to remember Douglas only as the guy that went out easily against Holyfield and later against Lou Savarese and you just dismiss this victory as a fluke, well, you just don't know what you are looking at, son.

    Buster Douglas, on the night he beat Mike Tyson, was one of the greatest heavyweights ever. SUPREME confidence, fearlessness, power, BEAUTIFUL combination punching. THE JAB! Toughness, the ability to deal with adversity, recovery time, patience, exceptional technique (the way he stepped over on Tyson just before releasing the first punch of the final series of the fight), the ability to finish a man, conditioning, etceteras. Buster Douglas showed it ALL that night! That was one of the greatest all time performances, no two ways about it. Right up there with Frazier over Ali, Leonard over Duran in their first rematch, Ali over Foreman, Winky and Hopkins over Tito. He was AWESOME that night.

    9. Sweet Pea vs. JCC, 1993. Julio Caesar Chavez was one of the top pound for pound fighting machines in the world back then and was well on his way towards one hundred victories without a defeat. But there are some boxing results that I just don't accept. Pernell Whitaker out boxed, out slicked and out fought Chavez that night with a beautiful, textbook, all-time great boxing display and I just don't care at all that the record books let us know that DK influenced judges scored it as a draw over twelve rounds. People hardly ever even talk about that fight anymore but it was a boxing masterpiece. Pea was so calm and in control and led Chavez in almost every direction he wanted him to go in. That was boxing science at its very best.

    10. Paul Spadafora vs. Pito Cardona, IBF 135 pound world championship fight. When I first heard that local (Hartford) kid Cardona was matched up for the vacant IBF 135 pound title against Spadafora I have to admit that I thought it was going to be a blow out victory for Cardona. At the time they fought in 1999 Spadafora hadn't been in with many top notch opponents while Cardona had beaten, among others, good fighters like Ivan Robinson and Golden Johnson. I had seen Paul at the Ohio State Fair a few years earlier but didn't really pay that much attention to him and, as a matter of fact, the main thing that stood out about him to me was the unique tattoo he has on his upper body where it appears there is a thick chain of thorns around his neck with boxing gloves hanging from it.

    On the night he fought Cardona, though, it was very hard not to pay attention to him. People might forget it now, what with all his legal troubles and a few somewhat uninspiring performances mixed in since, but Paul Spadafora put on a slick exhibition of boxing that day over twelve rounds that rivaled performances of Whitaker in his prime. Some people might gasp at that statement but sit down and watch the tape sometime. That was a breakout fight for a kid that should have been a star in the making. His movement, combination punching, confidence, jab, defense and showmanship in a fight against a very solid opponent was something that you don't see all rolled into one single performance on a regular basis. Even his post fight interview was a home run on his behalf. What happened to him as a result in large part to similar demons that have plagued so many athletes, actors, entertainers, executives and average, everyday people is a crime of sorts because now, instead of being propped up as one of the slickest, smartest, most clever and entertaining champions in all of boxing, Paul "The Pittsburgh Kid" Spadafora has put himself in a place where he could very well be remembered, if at all, as just "a guy with some talent" who failed miserably at trying to reach his full potential.

    The performance he put on against Cardona is undoubtedly even more forgotten than Sweet Pea's against Chavez and Douglas' against Tyson and that's a true shame because the performance he came through with on that day, on a world wide stage, is still something to be admired as a true championship level exhibition of pure boxing.

    He may be forgotten one day but don't get it wrong. That kid Spadafora could BOX.

    So there you have them, my top ten "off the top of my head" moments that I think qualify as deserving to be mentioned as great moments or events in boxing history. Let the debates, comments and rebuttals begin!!

    ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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    Your failed to mention Castillo-Corrales I, and Barerra-Morales I, II, and III.

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    • GEOFFHAYES
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      When I'm thinking 'off the top of my head', the two that come to mind first are Tyson's left hook on Berbick causing the delayed reaction/putting him on ***** street, and Eubank getting up to deliver that tragic uppercut on Watson. They both seemed to happen in slow motion at the time.

      Others include the great British upsets (such as McGuigan/Pedroza, Honeyghan/Curry, Benn/McClellan, Hatton/Tszyu), McCallum's picture-perfect left hook to KO Curry, Tyson putting Spinks on his back, and here's a nice little description on Hamed/Belcastro:


      The Ponds Forge Arena, Sheffield, one night in May 1994. In only his 12th pro fight, 'Prince' Naseem Hamed, 20, is challenging Vincenzo Belcastro of Italy for the European bantamweight title. There is a fair crowd and all the London boxing writers have made the journey north. Among them are many doubters. This chance has come earlier than expected for Hamed. They have known 'Naz' - or 'the Naz fella', as his unmistakable and incurably optimistic trainer, Brendan Ingle, calls him - since he was a young boy, a diminutive, hyperactive presence hanging on to the robe of Herol 'Bomber' Graham, the most talented but unluckiest boxer Britain has produced. Even in Herol's darkest moments, such as when he was knocked out in a Marbella ballroom by the American puncher Julian Jackson, when on the brink of victory, there was no escaping Naz. There he was, cavorting inappropriately, just minutes after Herol had been taken concussed from the ring. Always in his own world, Naz, ignoring the efforts of another stablemate, the cruiserweight Johnny Nelson, to tell him to calm down. Wherever Ingle went, so did Naz. He is Brendan's masterwork, the boy who will do what the fates conspired to prevent Herol from doing. With Naz, there will be no mistake.

      Many of the writers are weary of Brendan's boasts: how Naz will win every major title and earn '40 million quid'. But that's Brendan. He once said Nelson had the talent to beat Mike Tyson, but then rushed him into a cruiserweight title fight against Carlos De Leon. Nelson didn't throw a single punch - perhaps the most embarrassing night at ringside anyone had seen. Could something similar happen tonight? It's entirely possible. Belcastro has mixed with the world's best. Only four fights ago Hamed was in Mansfield boxing Kevin Jenkins, who had won precisely three of his 18 fights.

      But even if it does blow up in their faces, it won't be the end of the story. For that, you can count on Ingle. At his St Thomas's gym, on the run-down hill on Wincobank, world-class boxers spar among a small band of waifs and strays aged from five to 50. These are the people Ingle invites into the gym, as part of his policy of teaching those seen as society's dregs, through boxing, some 'social skills'. It's a mythic scheme, a romantic pyramid, but one that requires concrete idols at its apex. And here they are, the triumvirate, Herol, Johnny and little Naz. There they always will be, somehow.

      At Ponds Forge, Hamed's sizeable family awaits the bell nervously. He is one of nine children. His father, Sal, came to Sheffield from North Yemen in the late 1960s. He worked in the steelworks and then took over the corner shop just up from Ingle's house on Wincobank. His older brother, Riath, thin and studious, and who works at the Yemeni Economic and Training Centre, can barely watch. They need not have worried. In his leopard-skin trunks, Hamed handles Belcastro with ease. The Italian is down in the first and the 11th. Hamed does not try to finish him off. Instead, in the last, he taunts his beaten opponent. It is an unappetising spectacle. It goes beyond what Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard did. Why does he have to do that? The writers talk of his disgraceful behaviour. What is it about Hamed that incites them? He is only a kid, after all.

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      • GEOFFHAYES
        Juy Hayes
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        I have to throw in Naz/Robinson as well. So many people picked Steve to expose him, Steve had prevailed time and again when he wasn't supposed to, maybe Hamed would be his most difficult task but he'd prevail again, somehow.. but no, Naz totally embarasses him all over with ease and boxes out of his skin.


        Those are my personal ones anyway.

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        • Mr. Ryan
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          I never liked Dorsey, I always thought of him as a guy who shoulda stayed in Kickboxing becuz he lacked the aesthetically pleasing style to prevent me from throwing **** at the tv set. Grove is a guy who you have to give props to becuz he wasn't the strongest, but he could box and had balls. The fight that sticks out in my mind was the Paez fight. Really, he had that fight in the bag until he fell apart in the last round. Had the fight happened a year later, when 12 rounds became the standard, he would've been champ for a few more defenses.

          Spadafora was one of my favorite fighters, I was really big on him. He had that confidence and brilliant technical aptitude that made you really take notice. He had it to become a star, but of course he couldn't keep it together out of the ring. I really wish him alot of luck, but I'm not gonna plan the celebration party for his next title.

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          • Shanus
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            Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES
            I have to throw in Naz/Robinson as well. So many people picked Steve to expose him, Steve had prevailed time and again when he wasn't supposed to, maybe Hamed would be his most difficult task but he'd prevail again, somehow.. but no, Naz totally embarasses him all over with ease and boxes out of his skin.


            Those are my personal ones anyway.
            I've met Steve, him and my dad are friends, he lives near my area.

            But I can even remember my dad telling me 'Steve is going to get battered in that ring' when I was a kid.

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            • MickyHatton
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              Originally posted by Shanus
              I've met Steve, him and my dad are friends, he lives near my area.

              But I can even remember my dad telling me 'Steve is going to get battered in that ring' when I was a kid.
              Steve looked beaten before he had stepped into the ring, his peek a boo type style that night led me to believe that he only wished to survive with perhaps the proviso that Naz would falter and tire in the late rounds.

              The problem was not the style (because it worked for MAB) but the execution, Robinson was a good solid operator but no more so I am not sure why he was considered to expose Naz, obviously with hindsight it was a mismatch.....

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              • GEOFFHAYES
                Juy Hayes
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                People just didn't want to believe that Naz was for real, but deep down I think they knew Steve hardly stood a chance.

                Steve had been written off in his last eight fights, they didn't want to believe HE was for real - the one-time journeyman with little self-belief who tooks fight at a few hours notice to give fighters a workout. Nobody gave him a chance against COLIN MCMILLAN, PAUL HODKINSON or DUKE MCKENZIE, so they thought they'd give him a chance against Hamed

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                • GEOFFHAYES
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                  Naz fought Robinson southpaw, orthodox, switching, side-on, square-on, front foot, back foot, the whole load. Robinson just did not know what to do with the kid..

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                  • GEOFFHAYES
                    Juy Hayes
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                    The '94/'95 Hamed would of beaten Barrera and Morales on the same night. ****ing awesome back then Naz was, some frightening combo's he'd put together from alsorts of ****** angles. His reflexes were in bloody good working order too back then.

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