10 Things... From Ice....

[jason100x]

I used to like Donald Curry back in the '80s. What ever happened to him?

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Run With Knives???

LOL Couple things...one is that I never talk in the third person... I think you read something wrong, my man....that's not ME..... I am a decent trainer..not that I am great or terrible... but how would YOU know if I am good or not??..... you have never seen me train a fighter....never seen me work in the gym etc..... Just as a note...YOU are EXACTLY the type of guy that boxers and boxing people HATE...... a guy on a message board that never did anything in the game trying to trash people that have..... in any event I have decided to not sell you my book after all when it comes out LOL so keep your money, stop payment on the check, don't read my posts or online excerpts anymore, either.. cuz you my friend are officially CUT OFF... JOHN ICEMAN SCULLY DON'T PLAY THAT LOLOL

[Knicksman20]

Good read Ice. That left hand counter was a thing of beauty. The right hand after was just phenomenal. I remember as a little kid watching that fight with my fam & Sugar Ray Leonards commentary on the KO. He was impressed not only with the power but also the precision of both of those punches. Anyway, don't pay attention to any of the haters. For all of us die hards we respect what you did in the ring & as a trainer too.

[joeytrimble]

no offense at all more like a joke ... when iceman wrote this out he sounded kinda like john madden he kept repeating the events of the match over and over just in different ways its kinda funny
its like madden

"heres a guy who if he put contacts in he'd see better' ... anything else nostradomos ,lol great read homie cant wait for part 2

[Manny_P]

i liked it plain n simple.

[STEELHEAD]

i appreciate icemans non fiction style.i bet even people that don't
know about curry or arguello got a good glimpse on these fights.

[slavik18]

Thanks.

I'll eagerly await the "ICE JUST TOOK A SHOWER" thread.

LMFAO!!!


Ahahaha

[PBDS]

I have these ten moments in particular that really have stood out to me for different reasons that I want to revisit with you. Some of them are known to every boxing fan in the world and some are known to just the few hundred people that were in attendance as they unfolded.

1- Donald Curry-Milton McCrory, 1985, for the undisputed world welterweight title: Donald Curry was a master boxer. Awesome technique and counter punching. A brilliant boxing mind who, if the boxing game is called the Sweet Science, is one of it's most advanced scientists. His technique, in my opinion, was second to very few men in history and there are two very revealing instances from his career stand out to me whenever I think of him. Two moments that help back up my claim of him as being a top "scientist."

One was from his 1985 WBA /WBC welterweight unification fight with Milton McCrory. Both guys were unbeaten at the time and claiming a share of the world welterweight title. McCrory was from the Kronk Gym in Detroit and had won the WBC title with a stirring twelve round decision over the very tough Colin Jones of Wales in a fight definitely proved his mettle. I liked McCrory's good, snappy jab and overall boxing skills as well as his solid amateur background (Milton was the World Junior Champion in 1979 at 139 pounds).

The first round of their late 1985 fight (live on HBO) saw Curry patiently stalked Milton while slipping McCrory's very good left jabs. Timing him. Plotting. Planning. In the second round he pulled off one of the greatest counter punches I have ever seen. Watch the tape sometime and realize that the counter left hook he hit McCrory with was not a fluky thing or a lucky punch. That was planned. Donald waited for McCrory to throw the left jab and he slipped to the left what seemed like just a couple inches and let go a lightning bolt of a left hook. If you wonder why he was called the "Cobra" watch this fight and you will see EXACTLY why. McCrory fell hard to the canvas and the fight was all but over. The ref gave Milton the mandatory eight-count and let the fight continue for another two or three seconds until Donald walked across the ring and let go a wicked right hand that ended the fight. The fight to me ended with that awesome left hook counter that dropped Milton the first time. You may never ever see a counter punch as devastating as that one.

2- Curry also showed me one more standout exhibition of brilliance in his 1990 fight with Brett Lally on ESPN. Curry dropped Lally in the second round with a nice right hand and went to the neutral corner while they gave the shook up Lally the standing eight-count. When they resumed the fight Donald showed me why he is one of the best technical fighters I have ever seen. He does things without thinking, as a reflex that other fighter wish they would have the ability to do. When the ref waved the fight back on Donald bolted out of his corner straight at Lally looking like he was going for an all out assault. At the very last second, just before he got to Lally, Donald stepped quickly to the right out of Lally's line of sight and let go two wicked punches that Lally never even saw coming. Brilliant stuff. Check it out on video sometime.

3- In late 1982 Alexis Arguello and Aaron Pryor met up at the "Orange Bowl" in Miami to fight for the 140 pound world championship. It was a big fight because Arguello was attempting to win his fourth world title and back then, unlike today, it really did mean something to be a four-time world champion. It was a great fight that had both guys showing tremendous skill and will. Later in the fight, when well conditioned and smart professionals do their best work, Aaron Pryor began to show the acquired skills that most people didn't really believe he had. Watch the fight. When Arguello began to tire from the pace of the fight along with that severe Miami heat. Aaron began reaching out with his own left hand and literally pushing Arguello's left hand down towards his waist before coming over the top to land big right hands on Alexis' unprotected left cheek. Those were not freak shots. They were beautiful, slick moves that set up brilliantly placed shots by Aaron.

4. Hearns-Duran. 1984. Everybody knows what happened. Blow out. Second round KO. Old news. But the way that Tommy finished Duran with that laser beam right hand. That wasn't just a right hand. Look at the tape sometime. Tommy had great range and he was using that to set up those right hands for the whole brief time the fight lasted. Watch it. He was looking at Roberto, measuring him and gauging his range while hiding the right hand. Tilting his left shoulder just a bit to the right to hide Duran's view of Tommy's right hand. When he would stick his long left hand it further obstructed Duran's view of Tommy's right side and I am sure that Duran never even saw that last direct, streamline right hand leave the chamber of the rocket launcher it came out of.

Just like Curry's KO'sof McCrory and Lally, this performance was an exhibition in brilliant boxing technique.

5. The ninth round between Mickey Ward and Arturo Gatti in their first fight and the first round of the 1985 Hagler-Hearns rumble.

You saw them. No commentary needed.

6-10....COMING SOON.

ICEMAN

.....Number three will always be a good and yet bad memory for me. I was rooting for Alexis that night and cursing Pryor and his Iron chin and cracked out demeanor.

[Kball15]

sweet read. u shoulda written something about gatti-ward round 9. i enjoyed the rest a lot. u gotta put more paragraphs in though! lol

and what is your book about?