Cus D'Amato sparring with Muhammad Ali?

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  • potatoes
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    Cus D'Amato sparring with Muhammad Ali?

    Take a look:

  • Abe Attell
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    ESPN showed it on ESPN classics on a show called "Duke it Out"...it was Ali and D'amato talking about the possible fight with Frazier, amongst other things.

    Ali was like "How you going to stop me Cus, I move to fast, I move to fast for Frazier"...then D'amato bobs and weaves and shows Ali how he can be stopped in his tracks, Ali is a bit stumped and says to Cus, "Frazier doesn't move that fast"...D'amato says, "If I can move this fast, Frazier can move this fast"....D'amato also believed Patterson had a chance at beating Ali, but a healthy version, not the one that was suffering from a back injury.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Abe Attell
      ESPN showed it on ESPN classics on a show called "Duke it Out"...it was Ali and D'amato talking about the possible fight with Frazier, amongst other things.

      Ali was like "How you going to stop me Cus, I move to fast, I move to fast for Frazier"...then D'amato bobs and weaves and shows Ali how he can be stopped in his tracks, Ali is a bit stumped and says to Cus, "Frazier doesn't move that fast"...D'amato says, "If I can move this fast, Frazier can move this fast"....D'amato also believed Patterson had a chance at beating Ali, but a healthy version, not the one that was suffering from a back injury.
      so untrue
      if anything
      in boxing thats the last thing u wana hear or belive
      just cuz one guy does it
      doesnt mean u can do it
      u gotta do what u can do it

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        #4
        Originally posted by abdiel2k3
        so untrue
        if anything
        in boxing thats the last thing u wana hear or belive
        just cuz one guy does it
        doesnt mean u can do it
        u gotta do what u can do it
        I was only repeating what Cus said...he did look fast for an old guy...Tyson could do it though


        I actually think Ali is right, Frazier doesn't move that fast with his feet...Frazier wasn't a fighter that sprints to his target like a Tyson...notice the use of the jab, that's a key punch

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          #5
          Originally posted by Abe Attell
          ESPN showed it on ESPN classics on a show called "Duke it Out"...it was Ali and D'amato talking about the possible fight with Frazier, amongst other things.

          Ali was like "How you going to stop me Cus, I move to fast, I move to fast for Frazier"...then D'amato bobs and weaves and shows Ali how he can be stopped in his tracks, Ali is a bit stumped and says to Cus, "Frazier doesn't move that fast"...D'amato says, "If I can move this fast, Frazier can move this fast"....D'amato also believed Patterson had a chance at beating Ali, but a healthy version, not the one that was suffering from a back injury.
          Originally posted by Abe Attell
          I was only repeating what Cus said...he did look fast for an old guy...Tyson could do it though


          I actually think Ali is right, Frazier doesn't move that fast with his feet...Frazier wasn't a fighter that sprints to his target like a Tyson...notice the use of the jab, that's a key punch
          Lol
          i know
          i was quoaten u
          but i was refering to cus' beliefs

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            #6
            Originally posted by Abe Attell
            I was only repeating what Cus said...he did look fast for an old guy...Tyson could do it though


            I actually think Ali is right, Frazier doesn't move that fast with his feet...Frazier wasn't a fighter that sprints to his target like a Tyson...notice the use of the jab, that's a key punch
            Cus did look pretty impressive considering his age lol
            But Ali wasn't moving like he did before his exile either.
            Did Cus land a jab or did Ali just pull away when he walked off?

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              Originally posted by hollister
              Cus did look pretty impressive considering his age lol
              But Ali wasn't moving like he did before his exile either.
              Did Cus land a jab or did Ali just pull away when he walked off?


              Hard to tell from the camera angle.

              If I was Ali, I don't think I would want any film footage of me sparring with some old guy. It is a no win situation. And the last thing Ali needs is somebody revealling the flaws in his style. Imagine how much better Joe Frazier's technique would have been if Cus D'Amato had been training with him!

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              • vandiar
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                #8
                I remember reading somewhere that Ali use to go to cus for advice alot before some of his fights. cus was definitely a great, great trainer.

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                  #9
                  Paul Williams says, "If Cus D'amato handled Ali like that, then Cus would have beat Ali in a pro fight."

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by hollister
                    Cus did look pretty impressive considering his age lol
                    But Ali wasn't moving like he did before his exile either.
                    Did Cus land a jab or did Ali just pull away when he walked off?
                    Ali walked away cause Cus D'amato hit Ali in the lip, seconds later you hear Cus say, "did i hit, did i hit you?" then also comes back with his hands behind his back looking into the camera just frowning as if he is mad.

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