Abraham: I'll be waiting to get back at Miranda.

[GunStar]

Hey guys lets put all the bias away and talk about who had more power in punches. I think Abraham has a lot more power than Miranda.

Ask Howard Eastman! Nuff said!

[raymon123]

Hey guys lets put all the bias away and talk about who had more power in punches. I think Abraham has a lot more power than Miranda.

Yea and who was in the hospital after a broken jaw? lol and abraham has more punching power? lol sure. That make sense.

[Parody]

Abraham is the better fighter and Miranda fans know it too. In the rematch Abraham wins by Stoppage/ Had Abraham had not broken his jaw, he would have whooped some more ass.

[Pantera2000]

Abraham is the better fighter and Miranda fans know it too. In the rematch Abraham wins by Stoppage/ Had Abraham had not broken his jaw, he would have whooped some more ass.

If he ever fights again after the brutal beating Miranda handed him and he has the balls to fight Miranda again in the USA, Abraham will not have the ref, judges and supervisor in his back pocket. In a fair fight Miranda wins hands down (and would make him look worse than he did this time)

[RAESAAD]

I think Miranda would win in a rematch......Abraham would come after him more and get caught IMO

[Pantera2000]

There's no reason the fight would be any different than last time. Miranda would stop him AGAIN in 5 rounds and the ref and the judges wouldn't be on Sauerland payroll.

hmmmm and who punches harder? Let me think about that for a second...

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[Red_Menace]

If he ever fights again after the brutal beating Miranda handed him and he has the balls to fight Miranda again in the USA, Abraham will not have the ref, judges and supervisor in his back pocket. In a fair fight Miranda wins hands down (and would make him look worse than he did this time)

Honestly, this is getting a little tiresome. If you want to believe that the only reason Abraham won is because of the refs, I can't stop you .... but do you really think Miranda is all that good if he couldn't finish off a guy with a broken jaw? I'm not saying he's a bad fighter, but he's not a great fighter. He should have finished that fight in the 5th round, when fighting resumed, but he let Abraham come out and take the rest of the round. And the rest of the fight, he couldn't land consistently. This guy does not look like someone who would really challenge Winky Wright or Jermaine Taylor. Those guys would eat him alive. The broken jaw is a freak thing. What Abraham said about gettin caught with his mouth open is most likely true, meaning it was less about the power and more about getting caught awkwardly. He is obviously downplaying Miranda's power to try and trash talk him though. Unless Miranda can break Abraham's jaw again, he's probably not going to do so well. Abraham had him pretty hurt in round 8, and by the end of the fight, his eyes and nose were pretty messed up, from a guy with a broken jaw that wasn't exactly engaging. I know you're a big Miranda fan, but you've gotta be more realistic about what happened. The people who think Abraham is just going to walk in and steamroll him are dreaming as well.

Abraham has the belt. Miranda has to fight him on his turf. I can hear the excuses pouring in if Miranda loses again, because it's an easy way out. Yes, they could have called the fight a TKO, but they didn't, and Miranda should have been able to end the fight easily. He obviously didn't, and put himself out of the scoring by fouling and being sloppy with his punches. Even if he'd only had 3 points (headbutt + 1 low blow) deducted, he still would have lost the fight. I'm not German and I'm not an Abraham fan, and I don't think the fight was unfair to Miranda.

[Red_Menace]

There's no reason the fight would be any different than last time. Miranda would stop him AGAIN in 5 rounds and the ref and the judges wouldn't be on Sauerland payroll.

hmmmm and who punches harder? Let me think about that for a second...

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You should show a pic of the left hook Abraham lands immediately after that, which turns Miranda's whole body. That's a good shot Miranda landed, but it didn't put down a guy with a broken jaw, and he answered immediately. You can't judge a fight from one still picture.

[Pantera2000]

Honestly, this is getting a little tiresome. If you want to believe that the only reason Abraham won is because of the refs, I can't stop you .... but do you really think Miranda is all that good if he couldn't finish off a guy with a broken jaw? I'm not saying he's a bad fighter, but he's not a great fighter. He should have finished that fight in the 5th round, when fighting resumed, but he let Abraham come out and take the rest of the round. And the rest of the fight, he couldn't land consistently. This guy does not look like someone who would really challenge Winky Wright or Jermaine Taylor. Those guys would eat him alive. The broken jaw is a freak thing. What Abraham said about gettin caught with his mouth open is most likely true, meaning it was less about the power and more about getting caught awkwardly. He is obviously downplaying Miranda's power to try and trash talk him though. Unless Miranda can break Abraham's jaw again, he's probably not going to do so well. Abraham had him pretty hurt in round 8, and by the end of the fight, his eyes and nose were pretty messed up, from a guy with a broken jaw that wasn't exactly engaging. I know you're a big Miranda fan, but you've gotta be more realistic about what happened. The people who think Abraham is just going to walk in and steamroll him are dreaming as well.

Abraham has the belt. Miranda has to fight him on his turf. I can hear the excuses pouring in if Miranda loses again, because it's an easy way out. Yes, they could have called the fight a TKO, but they didn't, and Miranda should have been able to end the fight easily. He obviously didn't, and put himself out of the scoring by fouling and being sloppy with his punches. Even if he'd only had 3 points (headbutt + 1 low blow) deducted, he still would have lost the fight. I'm not German and I'm not an Abraham fan, and I don't think the fight was unfair to Miranda.

I was there. I saw it first hand. Miranda got royally ****ed. The ref controlled the fight and protected Abraham. I have never seen such complete bull**** in boxing in my life. He even had the balls to try to pull Miranda back from attacking when Abraham has his back turned to Miranda after he resumes fighting. This happened multiple times. Yea, "protect yourself at all times", unless your Abraham, than I'll protect you too.

[Red_Menace]

I was there. I saw it first hand. Miranda got royally ****ed. The ref controlled the fight and protected Abraham. I have never seen such complete bull**** in boxing in my life. He even had the balls to try to pull Miranda back from attacking when Abraham has his back turned to Miranda after he resumes fighting. This happened multiple times. Yea, "protect yourself at all times", unless your Abraham, than I'll protect you too.

He protected Abraham by letting him fight with a broken jaw? ...... right. I don't remember the ref holding Miranda back at any point. If you can let me know when that happened, I'll take a look for it and see for myself. I have the fight on my computer. From what I saw, Abraham would turn his back and take some steps away as the ref broke them up, but he would always square up as Miranda was coming in on him, so it really doesn't make a difference. He almost got caught off guard once, but he squared himself up in time.