Just watched Miranda-Abraham

[TheEvilSaint]

If you watch it again, you'll see Abraham's mouth is already hangin' open pre-headbut. If the injury was caused by the foul, they would have gone to the cards and Abraham would have won. The ref knew the jaw was broken before the foul, so they were talkin' about ending the fight with a TKO for Miranda.

they were talking about a possible TKO for miranda cuz the corner wanted to stop the fight.

[adamk1304]

There should have been points deducted for hold , oh wait a minute you cant go against the home town favorite. i dislike any fights organized over seas to much loyalty. PADDED fighters thats what they are theys why HATTON is moving back down aafter the COLLAZO ass whopping

Collazo did not whoop hatton. It was 6 each with the knockdown giving it to hatton, face it and stop moaning.

[RAESAAD]

I just watched it right this second and think that with 119 left in rd 5 Miranda landed an uppercut that broke the jaw.........about 20 seconds later the butt occurs which was clearly pretty far behind the ear on the back of the head.

[TheEvilSaint]

Really bro.......yes there is.Yes the butt was intentional no it did not cause the Broken Jaw.......I believe it was an uppercut that did that.

how could an uppercut break the cheek part of the jaw? abraham didnt go into survival mode until after the headbutt, and he didnt get treatment for his jaw until after the headbutt.

that should tell you that the headbutt broke abraham's jaw.

[Red_Menace]

I just watched it right this second and think that with 119 left in rd 5 Miranda landed an uppercut that broke the jaw.........about 20 seconds later the butt occurs which was clearly pretty far behind the ear on the back of the head.

I don't think it's possible to pinpoint when it happened. It could have started with a pretty regular punch in rd1 causing a tiny crack, which just kept gettin' worse as the rounds went on. We just know that at some point during rd4/5 it really started to swell.

[LiLHopkins]

how could an uppercut break the cheek part of the jaw? abraham didnt go into survival mode until after the headbutt, and he didnt get treatment for his jaw until after the headbutt.

that should tell you that the headbutt broke abraham's jaw.

No, it was a punch that broke the jaw. and miranda punching made it worse. Even the ring doctor said it was punch. the fight report says that it was a punch.

[Bozo_no no]

that should tell you that the headbutt broke abraham's jaw.

Come off it.

It clearly happend before the headbutt, which was a tiny nudge.

Headbutts like that happen all the time in fights, and usually result in a warning, if that.

It was a complete joke that butt cost him 2 points with no previous warning,

and the reff clearly states the damage to his mouth was seperate and caused earlier.

[2OSouzaSuarez12]

Come off it.

It clearly happend before the headbutt, which was a tiny nudge.

Headbutts like that happen all the time in fights, and usually result in a warning, if that.

It was a complete joke that butt cost him 2 points with no previous warning,

and the reff clearly states the damage to his mouth was seperate and caused earlier.

Yea i cant even believe we got someone saying that headbutt caused the broken jaw lol.

lmao, palabras de piedra, thats a good one.

[jswa17]

I just got done watching this fight for the first time. I can go on saying Abrahams a warrior like everyone else, his jaw was broke and he kept fighting and blah blah blah blah blah. Look beyond the fact that he has heart and fought with a hurt jaw....

I honestly felt Miranda whooped Abraham's ass. He constantly put on pressure, he outworked him, outpunched him, and did more damage. Abrham fought for about 20 seconds of every round and spent the rest on the ropes. Fighting like that, I just couldnt give him any rounds. The crowd went wild wen Abraham would fight in them short bursts too, Miranda would land a good shot and nothing but Abrham would move his hand to whipe his face and the crowd would go crazy.

I also dont think 5 points should have been deducted. The headbut....I dont know if it was intentional or not. Either way I dont think 2 points should have been deducted, only 1. Then the low blows, i didnt really see anything major where a point should have been deducted, maybe one when he hit him on the hip kinda. The low blow call in the 11th was terrible, that wasnt low and I think Abraham faked it. I think Miranda should have only been deducted 2 maybe 3 points but deffinately not 5.

Another thing, why were they working on Abrham's jaw when the headbutt happened? They stopped to let him rest from the headbutt and they let his corner work on his jaw. What the hell was that? Im pretty sure they cant do that.

Germany is known to have a lot of fishy decisions and robbberies and i dont think this fight was an exception. I felt Miranda deserved this win. Come on now he really did beat up on Arbrham that whole fight except for about 10-20 seconds of some rounds where Abraham would burst out.

There should deffinately be a rematch and it should deffinately be in America. Miranda deserved this win and he didnt get it. Do it again only in America.

Abrhama fans, dont get all pissed off because of my opinion. Im just stating what I thought of the fight. Just because I dont agree with you dont start going crazy.

gosh i completely agree...
that's what i've been sayin here but somebody thinks i didn't even watch the fight..haha

miranda beat abraham's ass, hands down.
referee was ridiculous...

[jswa17]

and it's quite funny to see some people think the headbutt caused the bleeding from Abraham's lips/mouth...