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  • TomRiddle
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    #1

    Tough fists

    which do you think had tougher fists?

    a boxer's or a martial artist's fist?

    boxers only hit pads and bags while the latter hits bricks, wood or even little bags filled with beans hanged against a wall.
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    #2
    Originally posted by TomRiddle
    which do you think had tougher fists?

    a boxer's or a martial artist's fist?

    boxers only hit pads and bags while the latter hits bricks, wood or even little bags filled with beans hanged against a wall.

    boxers do...

    Most martial artists dont go 12 rounds with bricks, wood or little bags filled with beans.

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    • TomRiddle
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      #3
      Originally posted by Vanilla Gorilla
      boxers do...

      Most martial artists dont go 12 rounds with bricks, wood or little bags filled with beans.

      yeah, ur quite right.

      the matter would be on who would hit first.

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      • Warhawk_1
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        #4
        If it's not a Bull**** dojo, and it's also a striking art, then the higher-level Martial artists would have tougher knuckles.

        Traditional karate and kung-fu contains ridiculous amounts of knucle conditioning:

        Knuckle pushups(on a hardwood floor), punching rattan or bamboo pads, and doing EVERYTHING(hitting wood, punching heavy bags, etc.) bare-handed.

        Plus in your spare-time, you're supposed to take a hard object(usually a bamboo or wood slat) and whack your hand against it.

        Sure, boxers do go for 12 rounds, but the fact is, the gloves and the handwraps really do cover a large amount of the damage.

        Back when I did kempo, my hands were always bloody after a workout on the bag until the skin had completely hardened, while nowadays with boxing gloves on, I don't even really register that much feeling at all when I hit something.

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        • Abe Attell
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          #5
          Originally posted by Warhawk_1
          If it's not a Bull**** dojo, and it's also a striking art, then the higher-level Martial artists would have tougher knuckles.

          Traditional karate and kung-fu contains ridiculous amounts of knucle conditioning:

          Knuckle pushups(on a hardwood floor), punching rattan or bamboo pads, and doing EVERYTHING(hitting wood, punching heavy bags, etc.) bare-handed.

          Plus in your spare-time, you're supposed to take a hard object(usually a bamboo or wood slat) and whack your hand against it.

          Sure, boxers do go for 12 rounds, but the fact is, the gloves and the handwraps really do cover a large amount of the damage.

          Back when I did kempo, my hands were always bloody after a workout on the bag until the skin had completely hardened, while nowadays with boxing gloves on, I don't even really register that much feeling at all when I hit something.
          As long as it isn't the commericialized version of Martial Arts, which most are, then I would say the Martial Arts over Boxing. Like described above, there are some serious Martial Artists out there that still practice for the true meaning of it all, Self Defense...I once saw a demonstration from a "Master" that was hitting his knuckles on a piece of iron...of course that was on a television program (on TLC or Dicovery), but I doubt it wasn't a real piece of iron .Thai kick boxers are also into practicing the "art" of ****ing a thick piece of wood against the shins...it's good to start off with a wooden or medal rod and roll it up and down your shin before going into the others serious work.

          Don't buy into some of the nonsense you see with these "black belts" breaking wood and bricks...I knew a 6 year old girl that broke 2 pieces of wood...When I was 9 I broke a brick on my first try...I swear, the bricks that "Martial Artists" use that are on ESPN and do it to show off must be using a weak version...I do appreciate the true traditionalists that don't cut around the corners...



          Knuckle push-ups aren't so bad, I have been doing them since I was a little kid. Kostya Tszyu also does them so it isn't like no boxers do this kind of training.
          Last edited by Abe Attell; 09-21-2006, 04:06 AM.

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          • leow
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            #6
            if you have hard knuckles dont mean you hit hard, karate punches aren't like boxing punches, karate has only straight punches if i'm not mistaken karate punches travel from the waist to the target, so basicly if a karate guy would fight a boxer he would get hit 20times before throwing one punch or get countered like crazy

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            • Abe Attell
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              #7
              It's also about Genetics...guys like Liston and Foreman have naturally thick bones

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              • Nacho_Analstain
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                #8
                how does hittin hard objects make ur hands stronger?it breaks them,weakening them for the future

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                • hemichromis
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by azza-mc
                  how does hittin hard objects make ur hands stronger?it breaks them,weakening them for the future
                  actually at first your bones will strengthen but the knuckles ma get bigger(restricting movement leading to arthritis) or they may become fragile eventually

                  boxers punch harder than martial artits
                  noone with a powerful punch can punch an unyielding surface without breaking their hand

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                  • GattiFan
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                    #10
                    Most boxers I know say they have soft hands. And outside of the heavies....most boxers I know have little hands. Arm and wrist alignment makes a boxers fist like a padded battering ram. Knuckle toughness just comes from them rubbing the inside of the hand wraps durning training.

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