GABRIEL "FLASH" ELORDE

[TomRiddle]

Yah your right Bro. Maybe we need people like IDIOT to entertain us from time to time.He is the clown of the site...LOLS

Nways, I got so excited with these informations coming from you real boxing Afficionados that I even called my friends here in the ofc to show to them how greatly and well appreciated our compatriot ELORDE is.. You guys made us more proud of him.

P.S.

To Bro. Psychopath....Tnx Bro.. although your are not a Filipino you keep on defending PAc and all Filipino Boxers against the Idiot from his smear campaign against them.You truly are an unbiased and objective boxing expert.Kudos to you.

BTw. Im not a racist myself cause I also like Mexican Boxers, specially Morales and Barrera,it's just that people like IDIOT should learn a lesson or two from you guys before he judges the person or worse a whole nation...

Thats right man, watch boxing if you like boxing, this Xcarriot ****head cant keep his mouth shut, he even lie to himself.

[Amaro]

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just letting you know I'd take a ****ing bullet for you carrot!

[Alibata]

I don't know whats up with the dude and his hatred. But I'll tell you one thing, I bet that dude is a real life coward and can only talk this **** on the net. He probably gets teased and bullied by Pinoys so he vents on the net. Don't lie xca****, you know you'd get your ass kicked. It's cool though go ahead and vent and talk all your **** where it is safe.

[JoartCC2]

Elorde's greatness stems from the fact that he dominated in different weight classes and had a long reign, about 6-7 years.

But PAC can easily outpace him if PAC continues to take on elite fighters and continues to beat them up.

Elorde is still up there, but not by much.

KO's against Barrera (easily one of the worst one-sided beating of elites vs elites) and Morales (never been KD much less KO'd in his career) are formidabble trophies. But PAC still has to get a few more.

A win against Morales.
A win against Barrera.
A win against Barrios.
And a few more and he will be the best.

[flipbjefrox]

Well since you aren't going to be watching Richie train anymore, maybe you should tell Pacquiao what you think of him as a fighter. And call him a midget also, watch how fast he kicks your ass. I mean seriously, he kicks peoples asses fast, faster than most because of the handspeed. Go tell us if his right hook has improved maricon.

richie is a f@cking bum who likes to cross dress.

[xcaret]

richie is a f@cking bum who likes to cross dress.

Do you like to make fun of dead people? I hope your ass dies so i can ****ing laugh at you

[flipbjefrox]

Do you like to make fun of dead people? I hope your ass dies so i can ****ing laugh at you

dont be a hippo, you do it all the time.

in all seriousness,he was a bum. he wasnt even a worthy prospect. women boxers at the wild card beat him up all the time. its true

[burglar]

Elorde's greatness stems from the fact that he dominated in different weight classes and had a long reign, about 6-7 years.

But PAC can easily outpace him if PAC continues to take on elite fighters and continues to beat them up.

Elorde is still up there, but not by much.

KO's against Barrera (easily one of the worst one-sided beating of elites vs elites) and Morales (never been KD much less KO'd in his career) are formidabble trophies. But PAC still has to get a few more.

A win against Morales.
A win against Barrera.
A win against Barrios.
And a few more and he will be the best.

Great post Bro...
What about a belt in the Lightweight Division with a marquee fighter..lets say, for arguments purposes, a POPO or a Jesus Chavez...will that make him overall "Greater" than Elorde?

[grayfist]

Most of us Filipino Boxing fans and all boxing fans in general seems to be forgetting who this guy was, his accomplishment and his feats.Before Manny Pacquiao came, all we say is that Elorde is the best Filipino and Asian fighter of all time.In the advent of PAC, a lot of us say, specially here in the Phil. that Pac had already eclipsed the achievements of Elorde and now being tagged as the greatest Filipino Boxer who ever doned the ring.

Honestly, although a Filipino myself, I wasn't yet born at the time of his 7 yr reign. And honestly, if not for boxing historians in this site, such as Mr. Bojangles ang Grayfist (who I believed are not Filipinos themselves but know Flash a lot..God bless them..), I wouldn't have known that Elorde was indeed for real and not only highly regarded amongst us Filipinos but in the whole boxing world.In fact, I was so surprised with what Mr. Bojangles had said and quoting him to wit; "fought in 44 championship fights at 4 weight divisions and dominated the Jr. Lightweight class like no other (perhaps only Alexis Arguello comes close)." Imagine that... describing him alongside the great Alexis Arguello.Never thought Flash was THAT GOOD...

My question is this. As early as in this stage of Pac's career did he muster enough fights and wins so much so that it is right to say that he is much "Greater" than Flash??


P.S.

I got pissed off with a thread made by an IDIOT in this site called XCARET who BTW called this HOF a bum that I decided to start this thread...Fortunately it benefitted me cause it has enriched me in oneway or another.

Just jumped in when I saw my name mentioned, pal.

You are right in both counts about me:

1. Unfortunately, I am not a Filipino.
2. I know a bit about Elorde as I visit the Philippines often and had the pleasure to meet people who knew Elorde, among them:

Enrique Magdayao- nephew of Mening Jagdon who was one of Elorde's first managers (a fella named Kintanar was co-manager).

Buddy Hisoler- a fight fan in Cebu who knows more about the fight game there than anybody I've met except perhaps Tony Aldeguer (the manager of Rey Bautista).

Francisco Balug- a former fighter who trained alongside Elorde while Da Flash was starting out.

Carl Penalosa- Gerry Penalosa's father who started his career when Elorde's was fading out.

Dodong Pedroza- a boyhood buddy of Gabriel. He is now a member of the town council of Bogo.

The late Minoy Flores- an educator, parti-time politician and all-around raconteur who grew up in Bogo when Gabriel was there and who used to tell me stories about the Flash that few knew about. Particularly stories about Gabriel prior to WWII (e.g., when, how and where Gabriel was circumcised! And by whom!)

I get the time to talk about boxing whenver I get to Cebu as when you're on the beach with friends, there often is not much else to do over San Migs!

[TomRiddle]

Great post Bro...
What about a belt in the Lightweight Division with a marquee fighter..lets say, for arguments purposes, a POPO or a Jesus Chavez...will that make him overall "Greater" than Elorde?

Pac would be too small for the lightweight division, look at Morales, one of the best P4P boxer nowadays, he's bigger than Pac but was easily outgunned by Raheem. But Pac may become greater than Elorde due to today's technology and media, richer than any sportsman in his country.