Carlos Ortiz vs Flash Elorde (Video)

[loui_ludwig]

There's only 1 true bum in boxing............................................ ........The one and only XCARET.

[kadyo's]

Carlos Ortiz knocks the **** out Phillipino Flash Elorde, after this fight, that bum was never the same!

Thanks for the vid idiot!!!!Elorde is the longest reigning super featherweight of all time.

[xcaret]

Thanks for the vid idiot!!!!Elorde is the longest reigning super featherweight of all time.

Fighting who dumb****? Bums in the Phillipines? Give me a ****ing break.

[psychopath]

Thanks for the vid idiot!!!!Elorde is the longest reigning super featherweight of all time.

Oh xcarriot the idiot doesn't really care.

Even if it always blows up in his own face, he'll still insult Filipino fighters at every opportunity.

The shameless mother ****er loves the humiltion he is getting.

[psychopath]

Fighting who dumb****? Bums in the Phillipines? Give me a ****ing break.

Yeah sure, you ****i'n break your own face xcarriot.

[grayfist]

Da Flash died of lung cancer at the age of 49, a day after New Year's Day of 1985-- a little over two months shy of his 50th birthday. Although he surely was aware of the so-called "Yellow Fever" (protesters against President Marcos wore yellow shirts, dresses and armbands, thus, the name) that engulfed the Philippines since the assassination of Benigno Aquino, Jr., he didn't get to witness the so-called EDSA Peaceful Revolution that dethroned Marcos, which came in late February of the following year.

Elorde was born in the town of Bogo in the province of Cebu, an island right smack in the middle of the Philippine archipelago. Bogo is some 100 kilometers north of the provincial capital, Cebu City.

It was said that when Elorde was born, the town had a total population of about 1,000 souls, and yet, very few of the townfolks knew, then, that the Elordes-- Flash's parents and siblings-- existed; they were so poor and so well below the small population's radar screen.

As a kid, Elorde worked in Bogo as a bootblack and a stevedore; as the latter he carried 50- kilo bags of rice for merchants in Bogo. He was reportedly often seen in an oversized shirt with no pants and better heeled boys often played pranks on him. He had to often use his fists to discourage them.

He often slept on top of piles of merchandise in the town's market, preferring that to going home for the nightly rest; there were just too many in the little shack on stilts in a mangrove swamp that they called home (reports vary on the number of siblings: from 8 to a dozen).

It was at the age of 13 that Gabriel (Flash's baptismal name) boarded a truck piled high with copra to try his luck in Cebu City. At first he worked in the docks but soon took to boxing when a man named Mening Jagdon--a local patron of the sport-- spotted him knocking down bigger boys in a street fight. Jagdon partnered with a man named Kintanar to steer the career of the young Elorde. Kintanar owned a store selling radios. The store was called the RSK Radio Shop, located at the corner of Colon (acclaimed as the oldest street in the Philippines) and Juan Luna St.

The moniker, "Flash", came from a radio news program which was aired in a Cebu City radio station. That program was called, "The RSK Radio Shop Flash Report". It was the fashion then in Cebu for businesses to sponsor pro fighters; much in the manner that some businesses in Thailand today do, e.g., "3K Battery". So Elorde initially carried the ringname, "RSK Flash Elorde".

Elorde suffered his first defeat in the hands of Kid Independence who knocked him out in the 10th. Independence then was a prospect, but his little local success got to his head as he frequently partied long and hard and abandoned training. He failed to live up to his potential and is now merely mentioned as a footnote in Elorde's career narrative.

Finding themselves unable to sustain the career of Elorde, Jagdon and Kintanar sold Gabriel's contract to Lope Sarreal who was making a name as THE MAN of Asian boxing. (Today, Sarreal--a Filipino-- is widely credited for having been the prime mover of Japanese, Korean and Thai western boxing, to mention the more prominent ones). Sarreal and Elorde shuttled between Manila and Japan for a series of fights before having the great Sandy Saddler face Elorde in Manila in a 10-round, non-title tiff. Elorde won that one going away (scores of 8-1, 7-3, 8-2). They met again in San Francisco some 6 months later. The fight was stopped in the 13th on cuts suffered by Elorde to the wild protest of people and media in attendance who saw Elorde ahead on points. The official verdict: TKO 13.

Following that loss, Elorde, rose to Jr. Lightweight, stayed in California and had half a dozen fights in the state before going to New York for a bout at the MSG, then, back to Tokyo to begin another series of commutes between Japan, ****kok and Manila. In between the Asian shuttles, they managed to drop in twice in Venezuela to win over Sonny Leone and Vicente Rivas as well as back to the US for fights in San Francisco and Cleveland.

In 1957, he took a chance at taking the vacant Orient Lightweight title (a weight class he had not fought in) and won by UD over Hideto Kobayashi in the latter's home turf of Japan. He however lost that title in his first defense to Omsap Laemfapha by points decision in Thailand. The following year he regained that title by beating Hiroshi Okawa in Tokyo (UD) and didn't give it up until Sohiaki Numata came along 8 years and over a dozen defenses later.

In March 1960, while still Orient Lightweight king, Elorde faced Harold Gomes in Manila for the World Jr. Lightweight crown, even as his wife Laura (daughter of his manager Lope) labored to give birth to their child.

Laura, still dazed, heard the child's first cry along with booming fireworks and sirens wailing at the distance. She knew her husband had taken the title, though, she could not have known then that it only took 7 rounds-- in which he administered 6 knock downs (twice in the 2nd, once in the third, once in the fifth and twice in the 7th)-- to accomplish the feat.

Those 7 rounds were six more and those six KD's were four more than what Elorde required to dispatch with Gomes in their return match in San Francisco. That fight lasted only 1 minute and 20 seconds.

Edit: Elorde's victims include the likes of:

Vicente Rivas, Joey Lopes, Giordano Campari, Teruo Kosaka, Sergio Caprari, Somkiat Kiatmuangyom, Auburn Copeland, Solomon Boysaw, Johnny Bizzaro, Tsunetumi Yamamoto, Love Allotey, Kang Il Suh, Rene Barrientos (a Filipino who won the world Jr. Lightweight title after Elorde's reign), Ismael Laguna, Percy Hayles,Vicente Derado, Teddy "Red Top" Davis, etc., etc. Of those mentioned, only Barrientos is a Filipino. The Ring listed Copeland, Boysaw, Bizzaro, Allotey, Kang, Derado, Lopes, Rivas and Campari in its rosters of challengers for the Jr. Lightweight crown at the time they faced Elorde.

Lopes (a naturalized US citizen from Portugal), Kosaka and Bizzaro fought Ortiz for the title but lost; Laguna won once over Ortiz and lost twice.

His meetings (about 4) with Kosaka were epic. After both retired from the ring, Elorde visited Kosaka in Japan upon learning that his former rival had lost his sight. Elorde gave Kosaka a hefty sum and made sure about the Japanese's monthly allowance. That gesture gives one a glimpse of Elorde, the man.

Elorde also met Frankie Narvaez on August 4, 1965 at the Madison Square Garden in NY in a non-title tiff. After Elorde was announced the winner, Narvaez's fans rioted in what was described by the New York Times edition published the following day as, "The worst riot in the Garden's history." Not only chairs and bottles were thrown but also tanks of fire extinguishers and axes. The riot spread to the construction site accross the street, where rioters picked up stones, pieces of concrete and steel bars to hurl at everyone and anyone.

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The rest is....

[TomRiddle]

Da Flash died of lung cancer at the age of 49, a day after New Year's Day of 1985-- a little over two months shy of his 50th birthday. Although he surely was aware of the so-called "Yellow Fever" (protesters against President Marcos wore yellow shirts, dresses and armbands, thus, the name) that engulfed the Philippines since the assassination of Benigno Aquino, Jr., he didn't get to witness the so-called EDSA Peaceful Revolution that dethroned Marcos, which came in late February of the following year.

Elorde was born in the town of Bogo in the province of Cebu, an island right smack in the middle of the Philippine archipelago. Bogo is some 100 kilometers north of the provincial capital, Cebu City.

It was said that when Elorde was born, the town had a total population of about 1,000 souls, and yet, very few of the townfolks knew, then, that the Elordes-- Flash's parents and siblings-- existed; they were so poor and so well below the small population's radar screen.

As a kid, Elorde worked in Bogo as a bootblack and a stevedore; as the latter he carried 50- kilo bags of rice for merchants in Bogo. He was reportedly often seen in an oversized shirt with no pants and better heeled boys often played pranks on him. He had to often use his fists to discourage them.

He often slept on top of piles of merchandise in the town's market, preferring that to going home for the nightly rest; there were just too many in the little shack on stilts in a mangrove swamp that they called home (reports vary on the number of siblings: from 8 to a dozen).

It was at the age of 13 that Gabriel (Flash's baptismal name) boarded a truck piled high with copra to try his luck in Cebu City. At first he worked in the docks but soon took to boxing when a man named Mening Jagdon--a local patron of the sport-- spotted him knocking down bigger boys in a street fight. Jagdon partnered with a man named Kintanar to steer the career of the young Elorde. Kintanar owned a store selling radios. The store was called the RSK Radio Shop, located at the corner of Colon (acclaimed as the oldest street in the Philippines) and Juan Luna St.

The moniker, "Flash", came from a radio news program which was aired in a Cebu City radio station. That program was called, "The RSK Radio Shop Flash Report". It was the fashion then in Cebu for businesses to sponsor pro fighters; much in the manner that some businesses in Thailand today do, e.g., "3K Battery". So Elorde initially carried the ringname, "RSK Flash Elorde".

Elorde suffered his first defeat in the hands of Kid Independence who knocked him out in the 10th. Independence then was a prospect, but his little local success got to his head as he frequently partied long and hard and abandoned training. He failed to live up to his potential and is now merely mentioned as a footnote in Elorde's career narrative.

Finding themselves unable to sustain the career of Elorde, Jagdon and Kintanar sold Gabriel's contract to Lope Sarreal who was making a name as THE MAN of Asian boxing. (Today, Sarreal--a Filipino-- is widely credited for having been the prime mover of Japanese, Korean and Thai western boxing, to mention the more prominent ones). Sarreal and Elorde shuttled between Manila and Japan for a series of fights before having the great Sandy Saddler face Elorde in Manila in a 10-round, non-title tiff. Elorde won that one going away (scores of 8-1, 7-3, 8-2). They met again in San Francisco some 6 months later. The fight was stopped in the 13th on cuts suffered by Elorde to the wild protest of people and media in attendance who saw Elorde ahead on points. The official verdict: TKO 13.

Following that loss, Elorde, rose to Jr. Lightweight, stayed in California and had half a dozen fights in the state before going to New York for a bout at the MSG, then, back to Tokyo to begin another series of commutes between Japan, ****kok and Manila. In between the Asian shuttles, they managed to drop in twice in Venezuela to win over Sonny Leone and Vicente Rivas as well as back to the US for fights in San Francisco and Cleveland.

In 1957, he took a chance at taking the vacant Orient Lightweight title (a weight class he had not fought in) and won by UD over Hideto Kobayashi in the latter's home turf of Japan. He however lost that title in his first defense to Omsap Laemfapha by points decision in Thailand. The following year he regained that title by beating Hiroshi Okawa in Tokyo (UD) and didn't give it up until Sohiaki Numata came along 8 years and over a dozen defenses later.

In March 1960, while still Orient Lightweight king, Elorde faced Harold Gomes in Manila for the World Jr. Lightweight crown, even as his wife Laura (daughter of his manager Lope) labored to give birth to their child.

Laura, still dazed, heard the child's first cry along with booming fireworks and sirens wailing at the distance. She knew her husband had taken the title, though, she could not have known then that it only took 7 rounds-- in which he administered 6 knock downs (twice in the 2nd, once in the third, once in the fifth and twice in the 7th)-- to accomplish the feat.

Those 7 rounds were six more and those six KD's were four more than what Elorde required to dispatch with Gomes in their return match in San Francisco. That fight lasted only 1 minute and 20 seconds.

Edit: Elorde's victims include the likes of:

Vicente Rivas, Joey Lopes, Giordano Campari, Teruo Kosaka, Sergio Caprari, Somkiat Kiatmuangyom, Auburn Copeland, Solomon Boysaw, Johnny Bizzaro, Tsunetumi Yamamoto, Love Allotey, Kang Il Suh, Rene Barrientos (a Filipino who won the world Jr. Lightweight title after Elorde's reign), Ismael Laguna, Percy Hayles,Vicente Derado, Teddy "Red Top" Davis, etc., etc. Of those mentioned, only Barrientos is a Filipino. The Ring listed Copeland, Boysaw, Bizzaro, Allotey, Kang, Derado, Lopes, Rivas and Campari in its rosters of challengers for the Jr. Lightweight crown at the time they faced Elorde.

Lopes (a naturalized US citizen from Portugal), Kosaka and Bizzaro fought Ortiz for the title but lost; Laguna won once over Ortiz and lost twice.

His meetings (about 4) with Kosaka were epic. After both retired from the ring, Elorde visited Kosaka in Japan upon learning that his former rival had lost his sight. Elorde gave Kosaka a hefty sum and made sure about the Japanese's monthly allowance. That gesture gives one a glimpse of Elorde, the man.

Elorde also met Frankie Narvaez on August 4, 1965 at the Madison Square Garden in NY in a non-title tiff. After Elorde was announced the winner, Narvaez's fans rioted in what was described by the New York Times edition published the following day as, "The worst riot in the Garden's history." Not only chairs and bottles were thrown but also tanks of fire extinguishers and axes. The riot spread to the construction site accross the street, where rioters picked up stones, pieces of concrete and steel bars to hurl at everyone and anyone.

________________________________

The rest is....

great history, extraordinary achievement, but we're pretty sure xcariot the idiot would love to **** this information, shameless MF he is.

[grayfist]

great history, extraordinary achievement, but we're pretty sure xcariot the idiot would love to **** this information, shameless MF he is.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Thanks for thinking it so. I am still panting from the exercise.

Anyway, it's there for whatever reason anyone may have to use it, Tom.

[flipside]

Fighting who dumb****? Bums in the Phillipines? Give me a ****ing break.

i just dont get the hate for the philippines? its too much bordering on insane. you need to stop the hate and recognize.

[mr. bojangles]

That was a nice read, thanks Grayfist, BoxingScene's resident walking boxing encyclopaedia.