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  • #11
    Originally posted by grayfist
    Joining the others in concurring with you, pal.

    As far as I can recall, John is the best Indonesia has ever produced and contributed to world boxing. He should be encouraged by his own countrymen to get a passport and travel to where big time boxing is-- the US. That's THE step towards getting a name for himself and his country, which is the fourth most populated in the entire world and the country with the largest ****** population (though John is a Christian). If he stays home and just keeps on fighting there, his chance at being mentioned in world boxing history diminishes to just being a footnote. And Indonesian boxing shall remain where it is--or worse.
    Allright Grayfist sounds like the man I want to talk to. I am doing a piece on John and want to know everything I can from personal to professional and I'm currently awaiting fight footage myself. But footage doesn't tell me about his background, so any help there brother? I know most Indonesians are ****** so being a Christian is a different path.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by orltroy
      Is he a defensive counter-puncher, or is he very patient behind a jab? I didn't think he was a giant puncher, but not sure how he handled a skilled counter-puncher like Marquez.
      He didnt, JMM was robbed.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Hopkins#1
        This guy has tremendous skill.I only seen him once but if you beat Marquez you got skill.I would love to see this guy in the States on televised tv to really observe him more.
        He got a gift decision expectedly in his country. I highly respect JMM but although I dislike the guy, he was clearly robbed in Indonesia. I hope he gets his rematch soon.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by orltroy
          Allright Grayfist sounds like the man I want to talk to. I am doing a piece on John and want to know everything I can from personal to professional and I'm currently awaiting fight footage myself. But footage doesn't tell me about his background, so any help there brother? I know most Indonesians are ****** so being a Christian is a different path.
          Sorry, pal, I can't be of any help. All I know about John and Indonesian boxing do not go too far beyond what are contained in that paragraph I posted.

          It is my wish, though, that boxing's popularity can engulf Indonesia-- a country so densely populated it makes one wonder why no significant effort has been visible to market the sport there. Moreover, boxing by its very nature can serve as a catharsis for a large chunk of the population's pent up emotions... It can serve some social good. While Indonesians and John can perhaps initiate work in this direction, the leaders of worldwide boxing should see that making Indonesia part of the world boxing map is in the sport's best interest.

          As far as John growing up in a predominantly ****** country (so predominant, Indonesia is considered the biggest ****** nation in the world), I am nearly sure that it would be, at least, an "interesting" study and deserves a piece to be written. I sure am glad that you have set your sights on such a project. I just regret I cannot be of some help though I thank you for thinking I can be.

          Edit: I don't know if you'll consider this shot in the dark: There's a certain Jeff Pamungkas who filed the report on *********.com re John's victory over Acosta recently; it is said that he filed that report from ringside. I don't know him but I'm guessing he's Jakarta-based. The people at ********* may help you get connected with him.

          I'm afraid this is the best I can do.
          Last edited by grayfist; 09-11-2006, 08:24 PM.

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          • #15
            I justo got done watching the Chris John-Marquez fight and watched it very closely. I came up with this.

            Round 1: 10-9 Marquez
            Round 2: 10-9 Marquez
            Round 3: 10-9 John
            Round 4: 10-9 John
            Round 5: 10-9 Marquez
            Round 6: 10-9 John
            Round 7: 10-9 John
            Round 8: 10-9 Marquez
            Round 9: 10-9 Marquez
            Round 10: 10-8 John
            Round 11: 10-8 John
            Round 12: 10-9 Marquez

            Chris John: 114
            J M Marquez: 112

            I scored the fight 6 rounds a piece and John won because the low blow point deduction. I think the deductions were legit, Marquez' clearly landed some low blows and at least 1 point deduction made sense, and I cant complain about 2. I feel Chris John won this fight fair and square. Just because they were in Indionesia doesnt mean it was a hometown decision.

            These two were very evenly matched. I really enjoyed this fight, wasnt very exciting but very tactical. Both fighters fought very smart. John is a very good fighter and I do feel he is very underrated. He beat Marquez fair and square. I would love to see a rematch in America on Showtime maybe. These two match up well.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by orltroy
              Is he a defensive counter-puncher, or is he very patient behind a jab? I didn't think he was a giant puncher, but not sure how he handled a skilled counter-puncher like Marquez.
              He is a very good counter puncher and counters a lot in combinations. But at times he can fight behind a decent jab. Hes a very smart fighter. Throws sharp combinations. I think hes the best 126 pounder. Marquez was the best and John beat him fair and square. Therefore hes the top dog now. I do want to see a rematch of taht fight though, or a fight with Cook or Harrison.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Souza2012
                He is a very good counter puncher and counters a lot in combinations. But at times he can fight behind a decent jab. Hes a very smart fighter. Throws sharp combinations. I think hes the best 126 pounder. Marquez was the best and John beat him fair and square. Therefore hes the top dog now. I do want to see a rematch of taht fight though, or a fight with Cook or Harrison.
                Hilarious you are...

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Souza2012
                  He is a very good counter puncher and counters a lot in combinations. But at times he can fight behind a decent jab. Hes a very smart fighter. Throws sharp combinations. I think hes the best 126 pounder. Marquez was the best and John beat him fair and square. Therefore hes the top dog now. I do want to see a rematch of taht fight though, or a fight with Cook or Harrison.
                  John beat Marquez fair and square?, did you actually see the fight? It pisses me off when people make comments like that when they have never even seen the fight.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Souza2012
                    I justo got done watching the Chris John-Marquez fight and watched it very closely. I came up with this.

                    Round 1: 10-9 Marquez
                    Round 2: 10-9 Marquez
                    Round 3: 10-9 John
                    Round 4: 10-9 John
                    Round 5: 10-9 Marquez
                    Round 6: 10-9 John
                    Round 7: 10-9 John
                    Round 8: 10-9 Marquez
                    Round 9: 10-9 Marquez
                    Round 10: 10-8 John
                    Round 11: 10-8 John
                    Round 12: 10-9 Marquez

                    Chris John: 114
                    J M Marquez: 112

                    I scored the fight 6 rounds a piece and John won because the low blow point deduction. I think the deductions were legit, Marquez' clearly landed some low blows and at least 1 point deduction made sense, and I cant complain about 2. I feel Chris John won this fight fair and square. Just because they were in Indionesia doesnt mean it was a hometown decision.

                    These two were very evenly matched. I really enjoyed this fight, wasnt very exciting but very tactical. Both fighters fought very smart. John is a very good fighter and I do feel he is very underrated. He beat Marquez fair and square. I would love to see a rematch in America on Showtime maybe. These two match up well.
                    WOW, you should stick to scoring amatur bouts.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by HendrixLove
                      WOW, you should stick to scoring amatur bouts.
                      He prolly got paid by the team pinoys to say that...

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