James Toney Is A Victim of His Own Genius

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

James Toney, and his camp, must this week have been under the su****ion that at some point they had broken a mirror by hurling a black cat at it whilst running underneath a row of ladders. To say that the decision going against Toney in his fight with Sam Peter was unlucky is to make a massive understatement as well as pushing the bounds of reason.

Talk of robbery needs to be rudely wrenched aside; there are felonies in boxing but no robberies. A fixed fight card would require a criminal conspiracy to commit fraud and that is not possible, it would require mass secrecy in a sport fuelled by gossip and loose lips.

What happened last Saturday was worse than a robbery. Toney got screwed out of what would have been consensually considered his finest win at heavyweight. In fact scratch that sentiment. Toney was not just screwed, he was the equivalent of a woman who made a date with a guy only for him to stand her up numerous times, call round to her house and seduce her, tell his friends about the tryst, post photos of it on the internet and then fail to call her and say thanks. Toney got screwed and the only people who respected him the next morning - judging by the forums on most boxing sites and the common consensus of the experts - are the fans who know that he controlled the fight with Sam Peter in a very expert way. [details]

[BodyHead Banger]

Great ****in write up.

[lazyitis]

...only it wasnt a robbery, it was a close fight which could've gone either way. Most impartial judges can see that. Even if it was a robbery, considering how Toney happily accepted one controversial decision in his favour after another during his heyday whilst casually claiming he won, he or his whining fans are in no position to question any judging.

“My guy is going to win tonight, he’ll get burglarised on the scorecards though!” pretty much sums up how most fans approach scoring a fight these days.

I'd love to know this "writers" credentials.

[-Antonio-]

...only it wasnt a robbery, it was a close fight which could've gone either way. Most impartial judges can see that. Even if it was a robbery, considering how Toney happily accepted one controversial decision in his favour after another during his heyday whilst casually claiming he won, he or his whining fans are in no position to question any judging.

“My guy is going to win tonight, he’ll get burglarised on the scorecards though!” pretty much sums up how most fans approach scoring a fight these days.

I'd love to know this "writers" credentials.

You say it was a close fight that could have gone either way. Then can you explain 116-111? With a point deduction I might add. You probably can't, so that sir is a robbery.

[Kid Achilles]

Completely biased spin. Peter's jabs knocked Toney back whenever and wherever they landed, even if was the occasional shoulder shot. News flash: if you hit someone on the shoulder or arm it counts as a scoring punch. If you were to knock someone down with a punch to the shoulder the knockdown would be legit, so how could you not count a punch to the arm or shoulder as a connecting punch?

Peter didn't land flush often but his glancing blows and punches to the arms and shoulders still moved Toney back and still allowed him to control the smaller weaker man at many points during the fight.

His glancing blows were more effective at pushing Toney back than Toney's best flush shots in fact.

Even if you score it for Toney, he by no means dominated.

[JEBoxing]

James Toney, and his camp, must this week have been under the su****ion that at some point they had broken a mirror by hurling a black cat at it whilst running underneath a row of ladders. To say that the decision going against Toney in his fight with Sam Peter was unlucky is to make a massive understatement as well as pushing the bounds of reason.

Talk of robbery needs to be rudely wrenched aside; there are felonies in boxing but no robberies. A fixed fight card would require a criminal conspiracy to commit fraud and that is not possible, it would require mass secrecy in a sport fuelled by gossip and loose lips.

What happened last Saturday was worse than a robbery. Toney got screwed out of what would have been consensually considered his finest win at heavyweight. In fact scratch that sentiment. Toney was not just screwed, he was the equivalent of a woman who made a date with a guy only for him to stand her up numerous times, call round to her house and seduce her, tell his friends about the tryst, post photos of it on the internet and then fail to call her and say thanks. Toney got screwed and the only people who respected him the next morning - judging by the forums on most boxing sites and the common consensus of the experts - are the fans who know that he controlled the fight with Sam Peter in a very expert way. [details]

Terence -- I scored the bout 116-111 Toney. However, if all I had to go by was your article I would be left with the idea that Peter never landed a shot and Toney won every minute of the match. Peter did land some heavy punches and Toney was hurt, particularly in round 3. This is not a knock on Toney -- he not only took the shots he fought back very quickly. There's no need to overemphasize anything about Toney's performance; he clearly won despite the fact that he faced a bigger, stronger, and much younger foe.

[joeytrimble]

hey kid achilles get some balls boy and see whats going on over at the experts pick ... its quiet the fetching read

[joeytrimble]

you people are talking about how big peters punches were why didnt toney have at least a swelled eye or a busted nose...one would think huh?

[Kid Achilles]

Because he didn't have the accuracy to hit him flush in the face over and over like Toney was doing. That and Toney is not the sort who is prone to swelling and cuts.

[joeytrimble]

Because he didn't have the accuracy to hit him flush in the face over and over like Toney was doing. That and Toney is not the sort who is prone to swelling and cuts.

oh well **** ...why didnt i think of that...stop the presses we should all appologize to sammy peters its not his fault hes a softy and cant hit straight and is suseptable to swellings and bleeding