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  • Smokin'
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    #11
    If any of you actually watched the fighters of the 80's you would know what Holmes is talking about.

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    • jack_the_rippuh
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      #12
      Originally posted by Smokin'
      If any of you actually watched the fighters of the 80's you would know what Holmes is talking about.
      Kid, please stfu.
      You were born in '90 and you know damn well you don't watch throwback ****.

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      • Easy-E
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        #13
        Originally posted by dino
        most heavyweights today posses tremdous power eventhough some fighters skills might not be up to par..so when idiots like to say the heavyweight division is weak i disgaree!!..i can see david tua beating joe frazier..i can see wlad klitchko beating gerry cooney EASILY..i can see calvin brock beating ken norton..i can see wlad klitchko beating ALI
        No...just no.

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        • Smokin'
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          #14
          I was born in 1989 and I watch throwback **** alot. I just go in youtube search up a fighter like Mike Nunn or something and vualla....you have a fight. Also watch alot of TUesday Night fights which features about 10 fights from the 80's on a single show.

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          • jack_the_rippuh
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            #15
            Originally posted by Smokin'
            I was born in 1989 and I watch throwback **** alot. I just go in youtube search up a fighter like Mike Nunn or something and vualla....you have a fight. Also watch alot of TUesday Night fights which features about 10 fights from the 80's on a single show.
            The Michael Nunn who fought Kalambay was Nunn at his best.
            I think he would've beat Roy Jones via manslaughter.

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            • jack_the_rippuh
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              #16
              Smokin', for you:

              Boxing: A Great Rise, a Tragic Fall: Looking Back at Michael “Second To” Nunn

              Photo courtesy of the Dave Bergin Collection: www.Pugilistica.com

              By Daniel Ramos - Sept. 6, 2005


              A tale far too common in the sport of boxing. A fighter that had all of the talent in the world, but in the end, after retirement, let himself slip away. A boxer with such flair, such poise, some dubbed him as the next Sugar Ray Leonard.

              Born on April 14th, 1963, in the small town of Davenport, IA, Michael Nunn, 54-4, 35 KO’s, began his boxing career in a small gym just outside of Davenport. With the speed and quickness that made most people think, this boy has all of the talent in the world, the talent to become one of the great boxers in history. His boxing journey started with 8 straight knock out victories.

              From there, Michael Nunn continued to roll. By the time he was to fight for his first world title, Nunn had propelled himself to an impressive record of 26 wins with no losses while capturing the NABF Middleweight title from Darnell Cox. It was on July 28, 1988, however, that Michael Nunn would finally have his first world title shot for the IBF Middleweight Title. Nunn would face Frank Tate, who was also undefeated at the time posting a record of 23-0, 13 KO’s. In a fight that was scheduled for 15 rounds, Nunn dispatched the undefeated Tate in just 9 rounds, winning by TKO, in front of a large crowd at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas.

              Nunn continued to establish his reputation and in his very first title defense, he knocked out former WBA Middleweight titleholder Sumbu Kalambay in just one round. A knock out so dramatic, Nunn would win Ring Magazines 1989 “Knockout of the Year”. Nunn then faced the hard fighting Iran Barkley for his next title defense, winning that bout by a majority decision. After two more defenses of his title (victories over former World Champions Marlon Starling and Donald Curry) Nunn was considered to be one of boxing’s best pound-for-pound fighters.

              It was then when he would meet James “Lights Out” Toney; in a fight, which was, a highly anticipated match up. At the time, Toney, although also undefeated, was factored in as a huge underdog, (some odds makers had it 20-1 in favor of Nunn). Through out most of the fight, Nunn seemed to be successfully boxing his way towards a 12th round decision. Then it all came apart in the 11th round. Toney, living up to his alias, “Lights Out”, would violently knock out Nunn, taking his title away in a huge upset in front of Nunn’s hometown crowd in Davenport, Iowa.

              Although slightly derailed, Nunn would come back and jump up in weight class to fight for the Super Middleweight title this time winning by way of TKO victory over Randall Yonker. Nunn would go on to make five successful defenses of that title until he faced a relatively unthreatening fighter in London, by the name of Steve Little. Little, who had a record of 21 wins with 13 loses at the time, surprised the world by winning a split decision and taking the title away from Nunn. After that loss, Nunn would fight several more times and again move up in weight class to Light Heavyweight. Nunn would go on to capture the NABF Light Heavyweight title via a second round TKO victory over Rudy Nix, but eventually lose his bid to capture the WBC title by falling victim to another split decision, this time to Graciano Rocchigiani. Prior to the fight, rumors swirled in the boxing world that if Nunn were to win this match against Rocchigiani, Roy Jones, JR. would return to the division to fight Nunn. The rumors vanished once Nunn lost the contest.

              However, just two fights later, In May of 1999, Michael Nunn fought and knocked down former World Champion William Guthrie five times en route to a sixth round TKO victory. Just after that fight, the buzz began again as some expected that victory to catapult Nunn to a championship fight that most thought should have taken place already. The buzz was that Michael Nunn would now get a shot at that time, the Light Heavyweight Champion Roy Jones, JR. Unfortunately for boxing fans, the fight between Nunn and Jones never happened.

              Nunn went on to fight until the age of 39 winning his next four fights after the Guthrie victory. He would never capture the prominence that he had established long ago and would eventually disappear from boxing.

              It was not long after his boxing career was over when Michael Nunn’s private life began to unravel publicly. Opening a door to a life of crime, a life that had been threatening Nunn throughout his career and ultimately, a life that would consume him after boxing. Over the course of his life, Nunn would receive convictions for drug possession, unlawful use of weapons and assaulting a Police Officer. In one case, Nunn was wanted for violating a court order from a prior domestic violence conviction. Acting on a court ordered warrant for Nunn’s arrest, the police searched for Michael Nunn at his sister’s house, Joanna Nunn. Joanna refused to cooperate with the police, but since the officers had a warrant, they were able to conduct the search of her property without her consent. Eventually, the police found the former World Champion hiding inside of a washer-dryer. Crammed in a fetal position in the household appliance, Nunn was eventually taken into police custody along with his sister. Joanna Nunn was later charged with being an accessory to a Felony by helping to hide her brother.

              Although sad, this was not rock bottom for Nunn. The former World Champion, the fighter who was one of the pound for pound elites, was arrested for possession of ******* with intent to distribute. On August 6th, 2002, it was an undercover FBI drug sting that would capture Nunn as he (Nunn) made a successful attempt of purchasing one kilogram of ******* from an undercover FBI agent. The street value of the drug was reported to be an estimated $24,000. Nunn, now at age 40, was arrested in a hotel room in his hometown of Davenport, Iowa.

              Nunn pleaded guilty to the charge of one count of conspiracy to distribute *******. After a three-day sentencing hearing, a hearing that brought out friends and fellow inmates (all of whom testified against him), the testimony brought to light a drug dealing background of Michael Nunn that dated as far back as 1993. The testimony was overwhelming and U.S. District Judge William Gritzner sentenced Michael Nunn to more than 24 years in Federal Prison.

              It is a sad case, a case of a former World Champion who fought brilliantly behind the ropes, a case of a former champion who now, struggles behind bars.

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              • Smokin'
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                #17
                Thanks, Jack.

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                • joeytrimble
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                  #18
                  james toney would beat alot of fighters from any generation although no unbeatable he is very hard to beat

                  as for kid achilles ...take the **** outta your mouth man your boy got too class then to out for recess.. toney boxed him slugged with him then beat him down the stretch..if you wanna belive the cards and say peters won rightfully so you may as well be watching wwf because that ****s fake too

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