Did Zab Ruin Floyd?

[DLT]

I made a thread after Zab lost to Baldy that Zab just ruined everything and everything is ****ed up now no matter what happeneds.

Floyd had alot of haters then but none of them could deny him. No one was really criticizing him at all and everyone was talking about how Floyd-Zab was going to be a Super Fight. If Zab does what he's supposed to do and beats Baldy then no one is ripping Floyd right now excetpt for the fact of pure hate.

Everyone would be talking about how great he is and how he broke down another great fighter in Zab. No one would be ripping him except for the pure few haters. Also people would be giving credit to his resume, saying how he just beat another elite fighter in Zab and how Floyd has beaten some top guys.

Is this not true? But what happened? Zab's dumbass loses to Baldy & Floyd fights him anyway. Since then Floyd has got killed. However, now Floyd took the next step and is fighting the guy who beat Zab and he's still getting killed.

Dont deny this. I dont remember seeing any threads plain out ripping Floyd before the Zab fight. Alot of guys hated him because of his personality but they knew they couldnt say anything. Floyd still fights Zab and you guys rip him. Maybe its rightfully so but now Floyd is fighting Baldy so whats the problem? Dude is hated like no one ever and its because of his personality but that still shouldnt change the fact of how great of a fighter he is.

If Zab beats Baldy then Floyd beats Zab, then Floyd calls out Shane & Oscar like he has, no one wouldve been ripping him. They would be talking about how great he is and how he wants to fight the best. They would also be talking about how Hatton turned him down. Some people would bring up that he should fight Margarito but it would be normal talk. It wouldnt be any big deal.

The Zab loss changed everything. Be truthful about it. My point also is that if the Zab loss did change everything and you guys then got mad at Floyd for fighting Zab then how can you still rip him now for the Baldy fight? Also by Zab losing, it takes all the credit away from Floyd. That Zab win is still a super win but Floyd will never ever get credit for that fight & they now put Zab on the garbage list. People forget how high Zab was rated after the Spinks win. Be truthful, you would be looking at Floyd differently right now if Zab had beat Baldy like he was supposed to.

[RAESAAD]

Zab would **** up a wet dream.........

[Smokin']

Shut the **** up for a second, please. And yes you are right Zab did kill Floyd. The thing that really killed Floyd that you conveniently FORGET was Floyd choosing to still fight Zab and claiming how Zab wasn't "at his best" and claiming Zab was a legitimate opponent. He was not.

[DLT]

Shut the **** up for a second, please. And yes you are right Zab did kill Floyd. The thing that really killed Floyd that you conveniently FORGET was Floyd choosing to still fight Zab and claiming how Zab wasn't "at his best" and claiming Zab was a legitimate opponent. He was not.

Shut up *****. Did you read the whole article. OK, he still fought Zab. So? He's fighting Baldy in the very next fight so whats the problem now? Thats what Im saying.

Im also saying that pretty much everyone thinks that Zab didnt even show up for the Baldy fight but it was still really close and alot of guys still think Zab won even though he looked ****ty. Zab is still a good win in my book and brought his A game against Floyd. Its like if Floyd loses to someone now, does that mean he sucks and still isnt a tough opponent for the next guy.

People talk about how great the old days were but guys used to lose all the time in the old days and still fight top guys and the oppents were given credit for it. If Pac loses to EM and someone fights Pac, does that mean that they shouldnt be fighting Pac and he's a bum?

EM just got killed in back to back fights by Raheem & Pac but no one is ripping Pac for fighting him. Pac just fought a Larios who also just recently lost but no one is ripping Pac. Its a double standard.

Anyways none of that should matter because in his very next fight Floyd is fighting the guy who just beat Zab, so whats the problem now, *******?

[Smokin']

Shut the **** up for a second. You are legitimizing Floyds decision to fight Zab. You are ****** as ****.

Here I'll enlighten ya:
Don King promotes Judah. Judah gets knocked down a bunch of times by medicore fighters, gets KTFO against Tszyu and his career is over.

....then he resurects his career with the help of Don King matching him up against feather dusters and he fights Spinks. He loses, his career is done. But oh yes wait he then beats Spinks in very exciting fashion where you see Zab explosive and skilled.

So he fights Baldomir which is an OBVIOUS set up. A 9 loss 'novice' with 8 KO's. Sounds great don't it? Sounds like an easy win for Zab, right...especially in his hometown. Wrong. Zab ****s that fight up and then Floyd jumps on him. Floyd takes the fight because he is a money hungry punk whereas Zab takes even lesser of the purse. Floyd then legitimizes the fight by fighting for Zab's IBF belt (which was bull**** how he got it) and calls Zab a great champion and all of that. THe main beef I have with that is that Floyd legitimizes everything even calling Zab a good fighter and all of that. That is just plain BS.

[Smokin']

EM just got killed in back to back fights by Raheem & Pac but no one is ripping Pac for fighting him. Pac just fought a Larios who also just recently lost but no one is ripping Pac. Its a double standard.

Where's the double standard, moron. EM and Pac both are fighting the best and not handpicking opponents. Floyd is not and that's what everyones beef with him is. EM and Pac aren't going around calling themselves "the p4p champ" (yeah, like its a legitimate thing to call yourself all the time) and EM already beat Pac. Pac was fighting him for redemption and to even up the series.

I don't see your points. THere is no double standard. There would be if Pac/Em acted like Clowns just like Floyd does.

[DLT]

Shut the **** up for a second. You are legitimizing Floyds decision to fight Zab. You are ****** as ****.

Here I'll enlighten ya:
Don King promotes Judah. Judah gets knocked down a bunch of times by medicore fighters, gets KTFO against Tszyu and his career is over.

....then he resurects his career with the help of Don King matching him up against feather dusters and he fights Spinks. He loses, his career is done. But oh yes wait he then beats Spinks in very exciting fashion where you see Zab explosive and skilled.

So he fights Baldomir which is an OBVIOUS set up. A 9 loss 'novice' with 8 KO's. Sounds great don't it? Sounds like an easy win for Zab, right...especially in his hometown. Wrong. Zab ****s that fight up and then Floyd jumps on him. Floyd takes the fight because he is a money hungry punk whereas Zab takes even lesser of the purse. Floyd then legitimizes the fight by fighting for Zab's IBF belt (which was bull**** how he got it) and calls Zab a great champion and all of that. THe main beef I have with that is that Floyd legitimizes everything even calling Zab a good fighter and all of that. That is just plain BS.

Shut the **** up, clown. Who the **** are you to say who is good or not? There are still alot of damn people who think Zab is a very good fighter. What makes you be able to say if someone is good or not? Zab got beat by Tszyu? So ****ing what. There both good fighters and one of them has to lose, dont they. Alot of people think that if Tszyu doesnt have the win over Zab then his career is nothing special. He got KO by Vince Phillips and doesnt have any good wins except for Zab. Is he a bum?

Alot of people still wanted to see the Floyd-Zab fight. Floyd legitamizes the fight but what, he's not supposed to? Is Pac legitmazing this fight with Morales? How the **** does Morales get a fight with Pac after just being KTFO and completely shcooled & shutout in his previous fight? You dont make no sense. People just hate on Floyd. Again, he is fighting Baldy in his very next fight so what is the problem now?

[DLT]

Where's the double standard, moron. EM and Pac both are fighting the best and not handpicking opponents. Floyd is not and that's what everyones beef with him is. EM and Pac aren't going around calling themselves "the p4p champ" (yeah, like its a legitimate thing to call yourself all the time) and EM already beat Pac. Pac was fighting him for redemption and to even up the series.

I don't see your points. THere is no double standard. There would be if Pac/Em acted like Clowns just like Floyd does.

Your a fool who is just a straight up hater and will find away to hate on Floyd no matter what and look the other way. Why did Pac just fight Larios then? How come Pac is begging for rematches against Morales & MAB, after he just already killed them? If Floyd was begging for rematches against Chico & Gatti then everyone would say its a joke. All these guys do is retread opponents.

What do you think about Baldy, is he not legitimate? Who the **** do you like anyway. ****ing MAB & Morales are overrated anyway just because there Mexican. No one was crying when Barrera was fighting 50 year old guys like Tapia & Kelley on PPV. Barrera has fought a bunch of cupcakes. People make Rocky and these guys out to be so great when everyone knows Rocky really lost to Raheem and he lost to Soto.

Those fighters down there get so much respect for the most bull **** wins Ive ever seen. ****ing Morales has a life & death struggle with a one arm Chaves and people think he did something. If Chaves had 2 arms, Morales wouldve lost that fight. People talk about how great JMM looked in his last fight. Dude got hit so much, got his eye split open, and looked like garbage until the end but people brag on him. Let Floyd do any of that **** and watch how he gets ripped, by little girls like you

[TheBlackWallStreet]

Shut the **** up, clown. Who the **** are you to say who is good or not? There are still alot of damn people who think Zab is a very good fighter. What makes you be able to say if someone is good or not? Zab got beat by Tszyu? So ****ing what. There both good fighters and one of them has to lose, dont they. Alot of people think that if Tszyu doesnt have the win over Zab then his career is nothing special. He got KO by Vince Phillips and doesnt have any good wins except for Zab. Is he a bum?

Alot of people still wanted to see the Floyd-Zab fight. Floyd legitamizes the fight but what, he's not supposed to? Is Pac legitmazing this fight with Morales? How the **** does Morales get a fight with Pac after just being KTFO and completely shcooled & shutout in his previous fight? You dont make no sense. People just hate on Floyd. Again, he is fighting Baldy in his very next fight so what is the problem now?

People hate Floyd because he is ****y and black. This is the truth. Same with T.O. same with Randy Moss same with insert black athlete that is great who is ****y here _____________.

TRUTH

[raymon123]

Where's the double standard, moron. EM and Pac both are fighting the best and not handpicking opponents. Floyd is not and that's what everyones beef with him is. EM and Pac aren't going around calling themselves "the p4p champ" (yeah, like its a legitimate thing to call yourself all the time) and EM already beat Pac. Pac was fighting him for redemption and to even up the series.

I don't see your points. THere is no double standard. There would be if Pac/Em acted like Clowns just like Floyd does.

I could tell you got a brain of a 12 year old cause you would realize that pac did the samething, he decided to still fight morales in a rematch after morales just lost a fight to an unknown name raheem. Pac could easily fight somebodyelse after morales lost a fight but nope he feels it be much easier cause morales conferdents falls down so pac feels thats the only way to beat morales in the rematch in which he did. I think its unfair you all over floyd for taking zab fight while zab lost a fight while pac did the same god damn thing. Hell pac did twice in a role, he fought morales in the rematch after morales lost a fight and pac last fight fought larios the same guy that lost a fight before fighting pac. Ummm yea people need to wake up.