Acknowledging greatness in modern times: The Baby-Faced Amigo

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  • !! Anorak
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    Acknowledging greatness in modern times: The Baby-Faced Amigo

    There's a tendency (I do it myself) to believe that "greatness" in a boxer relies upon the total mastery of the pugilistic essence: to hit and not be hit. Muhammad Ali over Joe Frazier. Sugar Ray over LaMotta.

    But this seems a real tragedy, because while a lot of us are hyping up technically excellent boxers who aren't legitimisting those apparent talents by facing live opponents and building a career based on hand-picking and paper belts (there's one right now, and if you don't know the recent fighter to whom I'm referring then Y'all Must've Forgot) we have a genuine great amongst our midst: The Baby-Faced Amigo.

    Admittedly, he's more of a Middle-Aged Faced Assassin these days, and the "too many miles on the Volkswagen Jetta clock" situation will surely see him unstuck if he tries to remove the Pacquaio blot on his record.

    But for a single stoppage (TKO) loss on his record to "blight" his career is nonsense at this stage... Barrera has a 17-year career and has shown a healthy disregard for sanctioning bodies in the quest of always fighting the best competition.

    From a middle-class background, the Amigo fights because he enjoys the challenge, and with his tally of fights rapidly approaching 70, he's a vastly experienced pro who commands respect. Though a fine boxer in his own right, boxers like Floyd of course look better from purely asthetic points of view. But it's ludicruous to allow asthetics to keep Barrera away from the extreme upper reaches of the mythological "P4P", even if his appearance there now looks in doubt as he enters his 33rd year - an old age for his weight class.

    Barrera has shown that to be a "multi weight" champ you don't have to negotiate your way through the easiest challenges, or slavish hold onto your "0" by taking paper belts. While all the flash Harries of the boxing world have been nicking the headlines, this Amigo has been building his legacy on pure sweat. He's respected, sure, but still not enough. We need to **** off the paper champs and boxrec confidence tricksters and give this Senor our full respect... we'll miss him when he's gone.
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    #2
    Originally posted by !! Anorak
    There's a tendency (I do it myself) to believe that "greatness" in a boxer relies upon the total mastery of the pugilistic essence: to hit and not be hit. Muhammad Ali over Joe Frazier. Sugar Ray over LaMotta.

    But this seems a real tragedy, because while a lot of us are hyping up technically excellent boxers who aren't legitimisting those apparent talents by facing live opponents and building a career based on hand-picking and paper belts (there's one right now, and if you don't know the recent fighter to whom I'm referring then Y'all Must've Forgot) we have a genuine great amongst our midst: The Baby-Faced Amigo.

    Admittedly, he's more of a Middle-Aged Faced Assassin these days, and the "too many miles on the Volkswagen Jetta clock" situation will surely see him unstuck if he tries to remove the Pacquaio blot on his record.

    But for a single stoppage (TKO) loss on his record to "blight" his career is nonsense at this stage... Barrera has a 17-year career and has shown a healthy disregard for sanctioning bodies in the quest of always fighting the best competition.

    From a middle-class background, the Amigo fights because he enjoys the challenge, and with his tally of fights rapidly approaching 70, he's a vastly experienced pro who commands respect. Though a fine boxer in his own right, boxers like Floyd of course look better from purely asthetic points of view. But it's ludicruous to allow asthetics to keep Barrera away from the extreme upper reaches of the mythological "P4P", even if his appearance there now looks in doubt as he enters his 33rd year - an old age for his weight class.

    Barrera has shown that to be a "multi weight" champ you don't have to negotiate your way through the easiest challenges, or slavish hold onto your "0" by taking paper belts. While all the flash Harries of the boxing world have been nicking the headlines, this Amigo has been building his legacy on pure sweat. He's respected, sure, but still not enough. We need to **** off the paper champs and boxrec confidence tricksters and give this Senor our full respect... we'll miss him when he's gone.
    Its tough not to like MAB, and impossible not to respect him.
    He gives 100 percent every time he steps through the ropes.

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    • ferocity
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      #3
      Originally posted by !! Anorak
      There's a tendency (I do it myself) to believe that "greatness" in a boxer relies upon the total mastery of the pugilistic essence: to hit and not be hit. Muhammad Ali over Joe Frazier. Sugar Ray over LaMotta.

      But this seems a real tragedy, because while a lot of us are hyping up technically excellent boxers who aren't legitimisting those apparent talents by facing live opponents and building a career based on hand-picking and paper belts (there's one right now, and if you don't know the recent fighter to whom I'm referring then Y'all Must've Forgot) we have a genuine great amongst our midst: The Baby-Faced Amigo.

      Admittedly, he's more of a Middle-Aged Faced Assassin these days, and the "too many miles on the Volkswagen Jetta clock" situation will surely see him unstuck if he tries to remove the Pacquaio blot on his record.

      But for a single stoppage (TKO) loss on his record to "blight" his career is nonsense at this stage... Barrera has a 17-year career and has shown a healthy disregard for sanctioning bodies in the quest of always fighting the best competition.

      From a middle-class background, the Amigo fights because he enjoys the challenge, and with his tally of fights rapidly approaching 70, he's a vastly experienced pro who commands respect. Though a fine boxer in his own right, boxers like Floyd of course look better from purely asthetic points of view. But it's ludicruous to allow asthetics to keep Barrera away from the extreme upper reaches of the mythological "P4P", even if his appearance there now looks in doubt as he enters his 33rd year - an old age for his weight class.

      Barrera has shown that to be a "multi weight" champ you don't have to negotiate your way through the easiest challenges, or slavish hold onto your "0" by taking paper belts. While all the flash Harries of the boxing world have been nicking the headlines, this Amigo has been building his legacy on pure sweat. He's respected, sure, but still not enough. We need to **** off the paper champs and boxrec confidence tricksters and give this Senor our full respect... we'll miss him when he's gone.
      Great post, except for the amigo part. But i aggree with everything you said. Some people forget or are unaware that Barrera came from the smaller divisions and only moved up becausee he could get any of the champion so he keep moving up in weight.

      Barrera was a Baby Faced Killer in his early career, it was all business and punishment for him. Seeing how he changed his style and still became succesfull shows how great he is. And though he has a 50/50 chance of beat Rocky, Rocky may be to young and strong with a good punch for the old veteran to defeat again. I wish him luck, as the fight will be a dog fight. Even in the final years Barrera is still very dangerous for anybody.

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      • CoLd_WaVE
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        #4
        yeah.. he's very dangerous... 'coz he'll hit you when you're down...

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        • DarkSpyder
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          #5
          Originally posted by Easy-E
          Its tough not to like MAB, and impossible not to respect him.
          He gives 100 percent every time he steps through the ropes.
          I respect him, but he's easy to dislike. A great boxer, but the man's a ****.

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          • MAXWELL_
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            #6
            i raised barrera in my little guy pfp.
            you see marquezs face!
            he was getting that jack-o-lantern look.
            imo barrera wins a decision over rocky.

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            • eazy_mas
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              #7
              Barrera alway stood up even when people though he was out that is why i never count Barrera out in any fight he takes even if he is old or just been KOed

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              • !! Anorak
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                #8
                Old thread... six months old.

                I picked Marquez to beat him... it just illustrates the transient nature of this hypothetical "pound for pound".

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