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  • #61
    Originally posted by DLT
    Im sure by now all of you have read Oscar say this:

    "Cause one thing that Mayweather’s saying about Margarito is “Who have you fought? Why do you deserve this?” You know, I can say the same thing about Mayweather! Who have YOU fought and why do you deserve to fight me? You’ve done what, 350,000 pay-per-view buys? 400, tops?? I’ve done a million-four with (Felix) Trinidad so why should you fight me?"
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    He is ****** for saying that because Floyd is regarded as the #1 fighter in the world, which Oscar isnt, Floyd is a undefeated Champ, which Oscar isnt, Oscar is on a different level then everyone about money but other then him Floyd is close to nearly everyone and better then 90% of the guys.

    Whatever money Oscar has done with Tito is nothing compared to what he will do with Floyd. It could be the biggest money fight in history. Please dont say that you cant compare Floyd to Oscar because if you ask pretty much anyone who is the better fighter, they will all say Floyd. Even the experts admit that. Even guys like Manny Steward says that Oscar needs Floyd because he still has never had that one big win where he has looked dominant. Every great fighter has that but him. The only thing Oscar has even close is a win over a shot Vargas.

    Please dont act like Floyd is some scrub who has never fougth anyone because that is foolish. I think Oscar is trying to be slick and drive up the price. He is already planting the seed to try to pimp Floyd. If I was Floyd I would just move on & say **** it. Its hard to do though because you know you could have 1 fight that will pay you more then 3 regular fights.

    If you think Floyd is being ripped now. Let Oscar come back and not fight Floyd. The media would kill him (atleast the one's who arent 100% Floyd haters). You know as well as I do that if he tries to bring back Tito & retire on that then everyone would kill him. Who wants to see that fight after both just got killed by Hopkins, both came back with a self made guy in Mayorga, and Tito then got destroyed by Winky. Everyone would rip that fight.

    Oscar would not go down in history with a great name. Dont forget that he lost to Tito, lost twice to Shane, got KO by Hopkins, most thought he lost to Sturm, most thought he lost to Quartey, and most thought he lost to Sweet Pea. His legacy is not secure. Its not much different then Tito's. Tito probally has the better legacy. Oscar can retire now but it wont be on top. He can fight Tito & retire with a win over a guy who shouldnt even be fighting right now. He wont get hardly any credit for it and it will be no big deal and he could still lose which would kill him.

    or he can retire by fighting the #1 guy in the game and go out on top with his legacy secure and that is a winnable fight. ****, he better fight Winky instead of Tito but Winky will be even a harder win for him. Either he should retire or Shut up and fight Floyd because if he fights anyone else then he will look ****** but Im a prideful guy and if I was Floyd then I would tell Oscar to kiss my ass and I would move on because Floyd still has a bunch of big money fights out there for 8 mil and more. Margarito doesnt, thats why you cant compare at all.

    Im glad that Floyd recently seems to be understanding this also. He just said that he's not concerned about Oscar right now and if they fight then great, but if not then he has plenty of options.

    Oscar dont want to fight Tito and you guys are ****** for falling for it. Boxers do this all the time. Its basically how Floyd just used Spinks so he could pimp Baldy on a deal. Oscar is throwing out Tito's name so he can try to get a boat load of money and he will probally not let Mosley fight Floyd yet but Floyd wont care because he is still paid. He will just give in and fight Margarito or a bunch of other guys that he can fight and you know the Hatton fight wont be far away. In the end both Oscar & Floyd will give in a little because there is just too much money to be made but Oscar still needs this fight way more then people think.

    Huh? Again?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
      Are you serious? You don't even make sense, if you would say because hes gay I would of probaly understood that but vain I dont know LOL but serious you see how this guy thinks DLH is giving fighters like Trinidad, Mosley, and Mayweather the time of day. Sort of like Margarito, Mr. big shot calling all the shots on who and when he should fight. Its not all about what DLH wants or wants to give, fighters should fight.
      Doesn't make sense?

      How do you explain Oscar fighting again at all? He hasn't needed to fight for several years. In fact, when you consider that he got paid a million dollars for his first ever pro fight - something COMPLETELY unheard of today - you understand the kind of money he has generated over the last twelve years.

      DLH fought Mayorga because DLH Is vain and he didn't want to go out a loser to Hopkins; he wanted to go out a winner and Mayorga was the perfect guy to accommodate his plan.

      DLH fought Mosley because Trinidad had retired and beating Mosley, the only other man that had beaten him, woul dhave been solid closure to DLH's career.

      Making sense yet?

      DLH will fight Mayweather not because DLH needs the money, but because of his vanity telling him that there is no better way to go out, win, lose, or draw than to go out fighting the best in the world.

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      • #63
        do not for get the next hurdle BALDY

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        • #64
          I haven't read a single post except the first one.

          Oscar is INFINITELY more respectable than PBF's ***** arrogant ass.

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          • #65
            Floyd is good, but he aint proven, the way Oscar is. We'll see after May 5th. Oscar has proven himself. Who has Floyd beaten, Zab, who gave him fits during the first 4 rounds. Gatti, please. Baldomir, come on now. All those B rated light and super light weights. Oscar is the first sure hall of famer that Jr will be facing. And he'll be doing it at 154, his first fight at the weight. Jr has youth and speed and confidence on his side. Oscar has alway been competitive and made things happen. He barely lost (can argue they were disputed) to Shane and Tito. His only real loss was to Bernard where he was completely out sized. B-Hop is considering fighting at Heavyweight soon. Hopkins at 160 is comparable to Oscar at 130. Can't use that fight as a measuring stick. And Oscar was competitive in that match up. We won't know until they fight. Floyd will try to make it a boring UD win for himself. He will not commit and make a fight out of it. Oscar will have to be smarter than Jr. and find a way to cut off the right without getting countered with single shots all night. Floyd can't hurt Oscar. If Oscar hits Floyd with his Hook, he should drop or stop the Pretty Boring Boy. If not, it will be a boring ass fight where Floyd will look to win by decision. Sorry, but it will be boring as hell and we'll all be wishing we saved our money (from the PPV). It's up to Jr to make it exciting.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Caca View Post
              Floyd is good, but he aint proven, the way Oscar is. We'll see after May 5th. Oscar has proven himself. Who has Floyd beaten, Zab, who gave him fits during the first 4 rounds. Gatti, please. Baldomir, come on now. All those B rated light and super light weights.
              So I guess Oscar should be ashamed of himself when he loses to PBF, since he hasn't beaten anyone right?

              Oscar is the first sure hall of famer that Jr will be facing.
              Which sure hall of famers did Floyd pass up between 130 and 147? Genaro Hernandez and Arturo Gatti will probably get into the HOF. Maybe Castillo and Corrales will too.

              And he'll be doing it at 154, his first fight at the weight. Jr has youth and speed and confidence on his side. Oscar has alway been competitive and made things happen. He barely lost (can argue they were disputed) to Shane and Tito. His only real loss was to Bernard where he was completely out sized. B-Hop is considering fighting at Heavyweight soon. Hopkins at 160 is comparable to Oscar at 130. Can't use that fight as a measuring stick. And Oscar was competitive in that match up.
              The fact is De La Hoya isn't as great of a fighter as PBF. DLH has been in many close fights. PBF, on the other hand, has dominated all of his competition. Only once has there ever been any doubt who the winner was in a PBF fight. The same cannot be said about DLH. You could argue that DLH should have 3-4 more losses on his record than he does now (Whitaker, Quartey, and he definetely lost to Sturm).

              We won't know until they fight. Floyd will try to make it a boring UD win for himself. He will not commit and make a fight out of it.
              Kind of like how Oscar ran from Hopkins all night because he was the bigger man and was trying to win a boring UD?

              Oscar will have to be smarter than Jr. and find a way to cut off the right without getting countered with single shots all night. Floyd can't hurt Oscar. If Oscar hits Floyd with his Hook, he should drop or stop the Pretty Boring Boy. If not, it will be a boring ass fight where Floyd will look to win by decision. Sorry, but it will be boring as hell and we'll all be wishing we saved our money (from the PPV). It's up to Jr to make it exciting.
              If you think it will be boring, then you obviously don't like boxing. You like streetfighting or tough man. Boxing is the ability to hit without being hit. Both of these guys are boxers, but DLH has more pop. This is definetely going to be a chess match. If that doesn't interest you, save your money...

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              • #67
                Originally posted by boxingguy1226 View Post
                ODLH and PBF would not make more money than he did with Trinidad. These arent two undefeated superstars at the top of their game, its one undefeated superstar at the top of his game and another fighter who fights as a hobby now.


                don't you think it would be a shame IF PBF loses to a fighter that takes boxing as a hobby ?
                Last edited by niceguy45; 01-17-2007, 07:27 PM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by niceguy45 View Post
                  don't you think it would be a shame IF PBF loses to a fighter that takes boxing as a hobby ?
                  don't you think it would be a shame IF DLH loses to a fighter that he says doesnt deserve it because he havent fought anybody ?

                  lol

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