Oscar Just Trying to Use Tito to Pimp Floyd

[jai mari078]

Your post just proved that your a Floyd nuthugger and a DLH hater... And also that your a ****ing idiot..

I was just thinking the same thing. Sounds like a lot of whining and crying to me. Floyd fans get all butt hurt when anyone says anything negative about him, but it's ok when he spews all his bull****.

[elgaringo]

Come on you've got to admit Mayweather could do with fighting some good fighters. Someone thats not been beaten (or even beaten that Convincingly for a while)Look who he's fought in his last 6 fights

Is this why people are raving about him? 19.04.03 he fights Victoriano Sosa (not particularly great)

01.11.03 he fights Phillip Ndou (you all know this guy is not that good.


22/05/04 he fights DeMarcus Corley. This was his only fight in 2004! (who had just lost to Zab Judah)

Then on 25/06/05 he fights the blown up club fighter Gatti (I love Gatti by the way).

Then on 19/11/05 he fights Sharmba Mitchell (who was dominated by Kostya and on the slide)

The last but.. well you know, he struggles with Judah (who.. well need I say?)

I AM NOT A FLOYD HATER!!! I like the fact he looks like he has the style to dominate everyone. But we'll never know unless he stops fighting losing fighters. Since 2002 (well since he fought Castillo)

I want to see him fulfill his potential! But he wont do it fighting Kostyas leftovers (I might add not looking too good in the process)

[Mattyp151]

Come on you've got to admit Mayweather could do with fighting some good fighters. Someone thats not been beaten (or even beaten that Convincingly for a while)Look who he's fought in his last 6 fights

Is this why people are raving about him? 19.04.03 he fights Victoriano Sosa (not particularly great)

01.11.03 he fights Phillip Ndou (you all know this guy is not that good.


22/05/04 he fights DeMarcus Corley. This was his only fight in 2004! (who had just lost to Zab Judah)

Then on 25/06/05 he fights the blown up club fighter Gatti (I love Gatti by the way).

Then on 19/11/05 he fights Sharmba Mitchell (who was dominated by Kostya and on the slide)

The last but.. well you know, he struggles with Judah (who.. well need I say?)

I AM NOT A FLOYD HATER!!! I like the fact he looks like he has the style to dominate everyone. But we'll never know unless he stops fighting losing fighters. Since 2002 (well since he fought Castillo)

I want to see him fulfill his potential! But he wont do it fighting Kostyas leftovers (I might add not looking too good in the process)

You can't get fights when those fighters don't want to fight you.

Hatton and Cotto told him to wait. Hatton priced himself out, and Cotto is being questioned after struggling with Torres and Malignaggi gave him fits. If Paulie can do that, Mayweather will kick the piss out of him. Those were the only two big fights he had at 140 that were worth the effort to stay.

PS: Struggles with Judah? How is beating someone 8-4 easily considered struggling? Judah is a fast starter, always has been, but can't go the distance. Floyd waited for it and dominated the 5-11...what more do you want from him?

[jai mari078]

Im sure by now all of you have read Oscar say this:

"Cause one thing that Mayweather’s saying about Margarito is “Who have you fought? Why do you deserve this?” You know, I can say the same thing about Mayweather! Who have YOU fought and why do you deserve to fight me? You’ve done what, 350,000 pay-per-view buys? 400, tops?? I’ve done a million-four with (Felix) Trinidad so why should you fight me?"
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He is ****** for saying that because Floyd is regarded as the #1 fighter in the world, which Oscar isnt, Floyd is a undefeated Champ, which Oscar isnt, Oscar is on a different level then everyone about money but other then him Floyd is close to nearly everyone and better then 90% of the guys.

Whatever money Oscar has done with Tito is nothing compared to what he will do with Floyd. It could be the biggest money fight in history. Please dont say that you cant compare Floyd to Oscar because if you ask pretty much anyone who is the better fighter, they will all say Floyd. Even the experts admit that. Even guys like Manny Steward says that Oscar needs Floyd because he still has never had that one big win where he has looked dominant. Every great fighter has that but him. The only thing Oscar has even close is a win over a shot Vargas.

Please dont act like Floyd is some scrub who has never fougth anyone because that is foolish. I think Oscar is trying to be slick and drive up the price. He is already planting the seed to try to pimp Floyd. If I was Floyd I would just move on & say **** it. Its hard to do though because you know you could have 1 fight that will pay you more then 3 regular fights.

If you think Floyd is being ripped now. Let Oscar come back and not fight Floyd. The media would kill him (atleast the one's who arent 100% Floyd haters). You know as well as I do that if he tries to bring back Tito & retire on that then everyone would kill him. Who wants to see that fight after both just got killed by Hopkins, both came back with a self made guy in Mayorga, and Tito then got destroyed by Winky. Everyone would rip that fight.

Oscar would not go down in history with a great name. Dont forget that he lost to Tito, lost twice to Shane, got KO by Hopkins, most thought he lost to Sturm, most thought he lost to Quartey, and most thought he lost to Sweet Pea. His legacy is not secure. Its not much different then Tito's. Tito probally has the better legacy. Oscar can retire now but it wont be on top. He can fight Tito & retire with a win over a guy who shouldnt even be fighting right now. He wont get hardly any credit for it and it will be no big deal and he could still lose which would kill him.

or he can retire by fighting the #1 guy in the game and go out on top with his legacy secure and that is a winnable fight. ****, he better fight Winky instead of Tito but Winky will be even a harder win for him. Either he should retire or Shut up and fight Floyd because if he fights anyone else then he will look ****** but Im a prideful guy and if I was Floyd then I would tell Oscar to kiss my ass and I would move on because Floyd still has a bunch of big money fights out there for 8 mil and more. Margarito doesnt, thats why you cant compare at all.

Im glad that Floyd recently seems to be understanding this also. He just said that he's not concerned about Oscar right now and if they fight then great, but if not then he has plenty of options.

Oscar dont want to fight Tito and you guys are ****** for falling for it. Boxers do this all the time. Its basically how Floyd just used Spinks so he could pimp Baldy on a deal. Oscar is throwing out Tito's name so he can try to get a boat load of money and he will probally not let Mosley fight Floyd yet but Floyd wont care because he is still paid. He will just give in and fight Margarito or a bunch of other guys that he can fight and you know the Hatton fight wont be far away. In the end both Oscar & Floyd will give in a little because there is just too much money to be made but Oscar still needs this fight way more then people think.

Yea right Floyd is gonna say **** Oscar and move on. I'll give you about 20 million reasins why he'll never do that. Don't get it twisted Floyd needs Oscar not the other way around. You sound like CAPTAIN SAVE A HOE trying to defend Floyd. Oh and you saying Oscar is using Tito to make more money. Oscar is gonna make money regardless he doesn't need Tito's name. Floyd may be saying all the rught things right now about not worrying about Oscar, but I guaranty when he heard the possibility of him fighting Tito instead he nearly **** his pants watching his payday fly out the window. I say Oscar says **** Floyd and fight Tito. Let Floyd know what it's like being skipped over like he tries to do. All of a sudden Floyd fans don't like it.

[jai mari078]

Come on you've got to admit Mayweather could do with fighting some good fighters. Someone thats not been beaten (or even beaten that Convincingly for a while)Look who he's fought in his last 6 fights

Is this why people are raving about him? 19.04.03 he fights Victoriano Sosa (not particularly great)

01.11.03 he fights Phillip Ndou (you all know this guy is not that good.


22/05/04 he fights DeMarcus Corley. This was his only fight in 2004! (who had just lost to Zab Judah)

Then on 25/06/05 he fights the blown up club fighter Gatti (I love Gatti by the way).

Then on 19/11/05 he fights Sharmba Mitchell (who was dominated by Kostya and on the slide)

The last but.. well you know, he struggles with Judah (who.. well need I say?)

I AM NOT A FLOYD HATER!!! I like the fact he looks like he has the style to dominate everyone. But we'll never know unless he stops fighting losing fighters. Since 2002 (well since he fought Castillo)

I want to see him fulfill his potential! But he wont do it fighting Kostyas leftovers (I might add not looking too good in the process)

Finally people are starting to recognize the truth. Good Post.

[jai mari078]

Every article on this fight said it would be bigger and maybe the biggest in history. Your missing the whole point. This is the Undefeated #1 P4P fighter in the game, moving up to a weight that he has never fought at and maybe to high for him, vs the biggest name in boxing & one of the biggest names in history, who is coming off of a destruction of Mayorga, and its his last fight. Add to that the subplots of Floyd Sr. training Oscar to whoop his son and its a pickem fight. This fight is way bigger then you think

You said yourself that Floyd is possibly moving up to a weight that is too much for him. He is already a small welter. Floyd is a guy that relies on his seed. Remember what happened to Mosley when he moved up to fight Winky at a weight(154) that was to much for him. Shane like Floyd was another fighter that relied on his speed and quickness. You don't think Oscar is gonna be on top of his game and the best shape of his life in probably the last fight of his career, at a weight he is comforatable at. I guarantee you Floyd cannot hurt him at 154, but I guarantee Oscar can hurt Floyd at that weight.

[Mattyp151]

You said yourself that Floyd is possibly moving up to a weight that is too much for him. He is already a small welter. Floyd is a guy that relies on his seed. Remember what happened to Mosley when he moved up to fight Winky at a weight(154) that was to much for him. Shane like Floyd was another fighter that relied on his speed and quickness. You don't think Oscar is gonna be on top of his game and the best shape of his life in probably the last fight of his career, at a weight he is comforatable at. I guarantee you Floyd cannot hurt him at 154, but I guarantee Oscar can hurt Floyd at that weight.

Shane is also light years behind Floyd defensively and his game was more handspeed than movement, like Floyd's is. Yes, they both have superior handspeed, but that's where the comparisons have to end.

Oscar may be able to hurt him, but if Floyd is 150-151 at the weighin, he's basically a welterweight still. Floyd won't be standing in front of Oscar like Mayorga did, it'll be an intriguing fight.

[dansweeney]

Im sure by now all of you have read Oscar say this:

"Cause one thing that Mayweather’s saying about Margarito is “Who have you fought? Why do you deserve this?” You know, I can say the same thing about Mayweather! Who have YOU fought and why do you deserve to fight me? You’ve done what, 350,000 pay-per-view buys? 400, tops?? I’ve done a million-four with (Felix) Trinidad so why should you fight me?"
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He is ****** for saying that because Floyd is regarded as the #1 fighter in the world, which Oscar isnt, Floyd is a undefeated Champ, which Oscar isnt, Oscar is on a different level then everyone about money but other then him Floyd is close to nearly everyone and better then 90% of the guys.

Whatever money Oscar has done with Tito is nothing compared to what he will do with Floyd. It could be the biggest money fight in history. Please dont say that you cant compare Floyd to Oscar because if you ask pretty much anyone who is the better fighter, they will all say Floyd. Even the experts admit that. Even guys like Manny Steward says that Oscar needs Floyd because he still has never had that one big win where he has looked dominant. Every great fighter has that but him. The only thing Oscar has even close is a win over a shot Vargas.

Please dont act like Floyd is some scrub who has never fougth anyone because that is foolish. I think Oscar is trying to be slick and drive up the price. He is already planting the seed to try to pimp Floyd. If I was Floyd I would just move on & say **** it. Its hard to do though because you know you could have 1 fight that will pay you more then 3 regular fights.

If you think Floyd is being ripped now. Let Oscar come back and not fight Floyd. The media would kill him (atleast the one's who arent 100% Floyd haters). You know as well as I do that if he tries to bring back Tito & retire on that then everyone would kill him. Who wants to see that fight after both just got killed by Hopkins, both came back with a self made guy in Mayorga, and Tito then got destroyed by Winky. Everyone would rip that fight.

Oscar would not go down in history with a great name. Dont forget that he lost to Tito, lost twice to Shane, got KO by Hopkins, most thought he lost to Sturm, most thought he lost to Quartey, and most thought he lost to Sweet Pea. His legacy is not secure. Its not much different then Tito's. Tito probally has the better legacy. Oscar can retire now but it wont be on top. He can fight Tito & retire with a win over a guy who shouldnt even be fighting right now. He wont get hardly any credit for it and it will be no big deal and he could still lose which would kill him.

or he can retire by fighting the #1 guy in the game and go out on top with his legacy secure and that is a winnable fight. ****, he better fight Winky instead of Tito but Winky will be even a harder win for him. Either he should retire or Shut up and fight Floyd because if he fights anyone else then he will look ****** but Im a prideful guy and if I was Floyd then I would tell Oscar to kiss my ass and I would move on because Floyd still has a bunch of big money fights out there for 8 mil and more. Margarito doesnt, thats why you cant compare at all.

Im glad that Floyd recently seems to be understanding this also. He just said that he's not concerned about Oscar right now and if they fight then great, but if not then he has plenty of options.

Oscar dont want to fight Tito and you guys are ****** for falling for it. Boxers do this all the time. Its basically how Floyd just used Spinks so he could pimp Baldy on a deal. Oscar is throwing out Tito's name so he can try to get a boat load of money and he will probally not let Mosley fight Floyd yet but Floyd wont care because he is still paid. He will just give in and fight Margarito or a bunch of other guys that he can fight and you know the Hatton fight wont be far away. In the end both Oscar & Floyd will give in a little because there is just too much money to be made but Oscar still needs this fight way more then people think.

mayweather has absolutely zero box office draw, his ppv's do a quarter of what dlh's did and still do. if mayweather fights dlh, 80% of the ppv audience will be tuning in because of oscar, if you don't know that then your an idiot. and tito's fan base is 10 times bigger than mayweather's will ever be as well. wake up pal

[Mattyp151]

mayweather has absolutely zero box office draw, his ppv's do a quarter of what dlh's did and still do. if mayweather fights dlh, 80% of the ppv audience will be tuning in because of oscar, if you don't know that then your an idiot. and tito's fan base is 10 times bigger than mayweather's will ever be as well. wake up pal

Would you pay 50 bucks to see Tito fight again? That guy is done. Yes, his fanbase is huge, but that's all that would give a damn about that fight. That rematch is about 3 years too late.

Now, tell me that Floyd is a zero draw after doing nearly 400K vs Judah, a guy who blew the fight big time by losing to Baldo, and Judah also did absolutely no media days or hype for the fight at all...you SURE Floyd isn't a draw?

[elgaringo]

Finally people are starting to recognize the truth. Good Post.

Cheers. Good Karma Please