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  • #11
    Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
    There is the question of Lomachenko's performance being hindered by a pre-fight injury. A second fight should resolve that question.
    Okay, so let's say that is true...Btw, Lopez had a broken foot and got surgery after the fight. But anyways, let's say his performance was hindered by a pre-fight injury, why are you to believe he won't get hurt in camp for the rematch. Lomachenko has been getting hurt damn near every camp for a while. Do we not remember the Linares fight and then what happened afterwards? He's been fighting for a long time and had hundreds of amateur fights while being a small guy. He is breaking down like many fighters of his age and size do. It is foolish to think he will have a clean camp the next time around.

    This is why I laugh at when people keep making threads about Andre Ward returning. That man was a SHELL of his former self at LHW and was getting hurt in every camp to the fight he couldn't even do any road work. So now all of a sudden he will return and be fully healthy? Nah, he's just broken down and just completing a camp will be difficult......Same with Lomachenko.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
      Okay, so let's say that is true...Btw, Lopez had a broken foot and got surgery after the fight. But anyways, let's say his performance was hindered by a pre-fight injury, why are you to believe he won't get hurt in camp for the rematch. Lomachenko has been getting hurt damn near every camp for a while. Do we not remember the Linares fight and then what happened afterwards? He's been fighting for a long time and had hundreds of amateur fights while being a small guy. He is breaking down like many fighters of his age and size do. It is foolish to think he will have a clean camp the next time around.

      This is why I laugh at when people keep making threads about Andre Ward returning. That man was a SHELL of his former self at LHW and was getting hurt in every camp to the fight he couldn't even do any road work. So now all of a sudden he will return and be fully healthy? Nah, he's just broken down and just completing a camp will be difficult......Same with Lomachenko.
      What you say may well be true. A second fight might result in Lopez absolutely dominating Lomachenko and that would also resolve any questions. Just my opinion and I'd like to see the rematch but if it never takes place then no big deal.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
        I mean you look around on this board, you have threads about Lopez ducking Lomachenko damn near every day. I agree that majority are fine moving on as the fight wasn't great or anything and Lopez to them won clearly.

        Again, I wouldn't mind seeing them face off again as Lomachenko definitely won four or so rounds in the back half of the fight. But are we to believe that Lopez is going to get worse from the first performance when that was only his second fight that went 12 rounds and his second fight that went past 7 rounds? It is Lomachenko coming back from yet ANOTHER injury and he's the older guy. I have a hard time seeing Lopez being worse than the first fight and not improving as he is entering his prime. If Lomachenko couldn't beat a 15 fight 23 year old novice, then he's probably never going to beat him.

        Let's see Lopez with the other young guns and see if we can get a more explosive and exciting fight.
        Idk maybe I missed it, some shìt really ain't worth paying attention to. If you have a clear winner as most feel Teo was, & or their wasn't any stipulation such as a rematch clause there's no such thing as "ducking" a rematch. Maybe it's just what I come across but I see more of either or ducking Haney than Teo ducking a rematch with Loma.

        I did think Loma Teo was a good fight tho, alotta suspense.

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        • #14
          Lomachenko did nothing in first 6 rounds and it was still a close fight, so why not?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
            Okay, so there have been a bunch of threads since the fight demanding Lopez rematch Lomachenko or threads about Lopez being scared to rematch Lomachenko.

            I just re-watched the fight on Saturday and to be honest, while it was a solid fight, it was far from a memorable or great fight. So I can't imagine anyone wanting to see the rematch because the action was so great and the rematch will be another barn burner.

            Is the reason for wanting Lopez to rematch Lomachenko because some folks still haven't come to grips with Lopez beating Lomachenko? Is it because Lomachenko had a lot more success in the later rounds until the 12th round? Is it because both father and son talked so much crap before the fight and then went on and delivered with their performance?

            What is it? Because it was Lomachenko's inept decision to take the rematch clause out of the contract just because Sr got in his head. That was an all time blunder on his and his team's part.

            While I wouldn't mind the rematch at all, I just won't lose any sleep if we don't get it. I prefer to see Lopez with the other youngsters over the rematch. Lomachenko's excuses after the fight were endless and rivaled Wilder's after the Fury fight...Maybe not to that extent but it has been pretty bad.

            End of the day, Lomachenko faced a green fighter who had only gone past the 7th round one time in his career and wasn't able to capitalize for whatever reason. I think he blew his chance and I don't foresee a rematch happening unless it becomes a big money fight......Which it won't. If Lopez wants a big PPV fight, that will be against either Tank or Garcia.
            I would like to see the rematch because of Loma's late-round success as you mentioned. I'm curious to see what would happen if Loma stepped on the gas earlier vs. waiting.

            Would Teo clip him?
            Would Loma bank the early rounds like he banked rounds 8-11?

            Teo definitely deserved to win the fight, however I also think it's fair to say that the early rounds were more about Loma being cautious about what Teo COULD have done vs. what Teo actually did.

            I won't lose sleep over it either but those are my reasons for wanting the rematch.

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            • #16
              I want to see if it was a one-off performance from Teofimo Lopez or if he is genuinely as good as he looked that night.

              I think Lomachenko had an off night. Lopez won the rounds where Loma did virtually nothing. When they did actually fight, Loma was slicker and got the better of the exchanges. Going into the last round it was pretty close and Loma's fatigue and Lopez' pressure won Lopez that round. It was his best round. Up until then he was pretty gun shy in my opinion and relying only on countering and not leading.

              It's Loma's fight to win or lose. It depends how quickly he puts his foot on the gas.

              Lopez wants to move on and onto bigger fights and keep the momentum going but I don't think he beats Loma in the rematch. Lopez has had his Buster Douglas moment.

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              • #17
                I wanna see what adjustments they make. I expect the second fight to be more exciting cause Loma will have to be more aggressive. Either he gets to Lopez earlier like he did in the latter rounds or Lopez finds far more openings and begins to hurt Loma like we saw in the 12th round.

                In an ideal world I’d like to see Lopez face Tank and Loma face the Berchelt-Valdez winner but I’d much rather see Loma-Lopez 2 than Lopez vs Kambosos and Loma vs Nakatani. I’d be hyped for the rematch this summer. I think it makes sense.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by whollisboxing View Post
                  I would like to see the rematch because of Loma's late-round success as you mentioned. I'm curious to see what would happen if Loma stepped on the gas earlier vs. waiting.

                  Would Teo clip him?
                  Would Loma bank the early rounds like he banked rounds 8-11?

                  Teo definitely deserved to win the fight, however I also think it's fair to say that the early rounds were more about Loma being cautious about what Teo COULD have done vs. what Teo actually did.

                  I won't lose sleep over it either but those are my reasons for wanting the rematch.
                  Good post man...

                  I’m of a very similar opinion.

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                  • #19
                    It would be better than Lopez fighting Kambosas

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                    • #20
                      im not a fan of the rematch but if he's not gonna fight haney or davis or ryan any time soon then why not?? as long as its on espn lol

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