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  • #11
    Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
    Yea then again Lara is like 35 36 and doesn't really have the desire pursue KO's like that anymore, he never did really they just came naturally but he had more spunk from being younger, he was always a defensive guy though otherwise he would have beaten Canelo
    He didn't have to pursue a knockout. He could have pitched a shutout if he'd tried. It's not about his age, he's been preserved due to his fight style.

    There were multiple moments he just sat on the ropes. Why? Against an aggressive fighter, why would you do that? That's some Clottey ish.

    Multiple moments he would just take off the last minute of the round.

    Multiple moments he would sharpshoot Castano and expose poor defense, yet not capitalize and keep doing it.

    I remember Round 12 being the round that showed me Lara could have basically washed the dude the entire fight but chose not to, because in Round 12 it was blatantly clear that Castano wasn't anywhere near Lara's class. ROUND 12. Meaning by that point Lara should also have been winded/gassed, yet he was at the best in that round. Which means he could have done that for the other 11.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by revelated View Post
      He didn't have to pursue a knockout. He could have pitched a shutout if he'd tried. It's not about his age, he's been preserved due to his fight style.

      There were multiple moments he just sat on the ropes. Why? Against an aggressive fighter, why would you do that? That's some Clottey ish.

      Multiple moments he would just take off the last minute of the round.

      Multiple moments he would sharpshoot Castano and expose poor defense, yet not capitalize and keep doing it.

      I remember Round 12 being the round that showed me Lara could have basically washed the dude the entire fight but chose not to, because in Round 12 it was blatantly clear that Castano wasn't anywhere near Lara's class. ROUND 12. Meaning by that point Lara should also have been winded/gassed, yet he was at the best in that round. Which means he could have done that for the other 11.
      You're basically making the point for me.. That's age dude.. I could see as clear as day that Lara wasn't the same guy he was 5, or maybe even 3 years ago, you can only preserve so much as you age father time is father time plus Lara's been in some tough fights that Hurd alone fight took a lot out of him imo..

      but even if u watch Floyd past fights when he was in his mid to late 30's he fought off the ropes a lot more as well, you simply don't have the legs to do all that moving for 12rds at that age and it ain't like Castano is a complete bum he's OK a little undersized though...

      Now Lara has always been a low volume guy, I been watching him for a long time.. most his career, when guy's start getting gun shy, not following up but looking to save energy to get through the fight, fighting off the ropes more and more that's clear signs of aging...

      I think Floyd fighting until he was 40 created a misconception that it's the norm when in actuality most boxer's are retired by Lara's age..Ward and Bradley retired at 33.
      Last edited by Realizniguhnit; 02-13-2021, 06:07 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
        You're basically making the point for me.. That's age dude.. I could see as clear as day that Lara wasn't the same guy he was 5, or maybe even 3 years ago, you can only preserve so much as you age father time is father time plus Lara's been in some tough fights that Hurd alone fight took a lot out of him imo..

        but even if u watch Floyd past fights when he was in his mid to late 30's he fought off the ropes a lot more as well, you simply don't have the legs to do all that moving for 12rds at that age and it ain't like Castano is a complete bum he's OK a little undersized though...

        Now Lara has always been a low volume guy, I been watching him for a long time.. most his career, when guy's start getting gun shy, not following up but looking to save energy to get through the fight, fighting off the ropes more and more that's clear signs of aging...

        I think Floyd fighting until he was 40 created a misconception that it's the norm when in actuality most boxer's are retired by Lara's age..Ward and Bradley retired at 33.
        Ward retired because of his knees.

        Bradley retired to duck all of the smoke that was closing in on him (Spence, Horn, Khan, Broner, etc.) He even admitted that seeing Manny bloodied after the Horn fight convinced him to pull the trigger because he knew they'd want him to fight Horn next if Manny didn't do it.

        The point is, if you're in ROUND 12 literally smoking your opponent, as I saw Lara do, that means for the other 11, you could have done the same thing. That means he went over 30 minutes slacking off before showing up when he could have done WAY more across even just 9 rounds.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by revelated View Post
          Ward retired because of his knees.

          Bradley retired to duck all of the smoke that was closing in on him (Spence, Horn, Khan, Broner, etc.) He even admitted that seeing Manny bloodied after the Horn fight convinced him to pull the trigger because he knew they'd want him to fight Horn next if Manny didn't do it.

          The point is, if you're in ROUND 12 literally smoking your opponent, as I saw Lara do, that means for the other 11, you could have done the same thing. That means he went over 30 minutes slacking off before showing up when he could have done WAY more across even just 9 rounds.
          The point is the vast majority of boxers don't box past age 34 35 regardless of why they retired. Based on your logic I'm not so sure you fully understand what it takes to get through a 12 round fight at 35 or 36 years old, after you've been out of the ring for 13 months, coming off a loss where u took a lot of punishment and expend as much energy as Lara did in the early rounds keeping Castano at bay and you probably need to re watch the fight because while I thought Lara deserved the nod, he was not "smoking" Castano by any means that's why the fight ended in a draw....

          I can almost guarantee you If Lara fought the way you thought he should have and didn't get the KO, he would have lost because he would have been tired asf and Castano would have still been coming..
          Last edited by Realizniguhnit; 02-13-2021, 10:54 PM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
            The point is the vast majority of boxers don't box past age 34 35 regardless of why they retired. Based on your logic I'm not so sure you fully understand what it takes to get through a 12 round fight at 35 or 36 years old, after you've been out of the ring for 13 months, coming off a loss where u took a lot of punishment and expend as much energy as Lara did in the early rounds keeping Castano at bay and you probably need to re watch the fight because while I thought Lara deserved the nod, he was not "smoking" Castano by any means that's why the fight ended in a draw....

            I can almost guarantee you If Lara fought the way you thought he should have and didn't get the KO, he would have lost because he would have been tired asf and Castano would have still been coming..
            Castano was whiffing punches like mad, either straight up missing or hitting gloves. He fooled you with his activity.

            Round 12, Lara's accuracy was through the roof, the man couldn't miss. The judges scored a draw because Lara gave away 6 rounds.

            You keep talking about age, I remind you that B-Hop was almost 40 when he knocked out Oscar De La Hoya and Foreman was almost 46 when he knocked out Moorer.

            Age means nothing when skill comes into play.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by revelated View Post
              Castano was whiffing punches like mad, either straight up missing or hitting gloves. He fooled you with his activity.

              Round 12, Lara's accuracy was through the roof, the man couldn't miss. The judges scored a draw because Lara gave away 6 rounds.

              You keep talking about age, I remind you that B-Hop was almost 40 when he knocked out Oscar De La Hoya and Foreman was almost 46 when he knocked out Moorer.

              Age means nothing when skill comes into play.
              It didn't have anyone fooled, Lara won just the way he usually wins fights.. and at 36 years old, now is not the time for him to be getting all overzealous and out of his comfort zone in trying to KO a guy who clearly took some of his best clean punches like you had suggested he should.

              Lara is not even wired like that.. He'll bust you up and If the KO happens it happens..

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
                It didn't have anyone fooled, Lara won just the way he usually wins fights.. and at 36 years old, now is not the time for him to be getting all overzealous and out of his comfort zone in trying to KO a guy who clearly took some of his best clean punches like you had suggested he should.

                Lara is not even wired like that.. He'll bust you up and If the KO happens it happens..
                Which is why Lara isn't and would never be great.

                Because what you're describing CAN happen in older age - Randall Bailey did it.

                You can give him a pass "that's just the way he fights" - ok, then by that logic Tony Weeks screwed Angulo when he stopped him off a single uppercut against Canelo. Because that was "just way he fights".

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