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  • Motorcity Cobra
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    #11
    Originally posted by Corelone
    Hearn makes it sound so easy. It will go to purse bid and then he'll make his move. No mention of rematch, options, or confidentiality clauses. Hearn hasn't stole one fight yet, like this.
    None of that applies in a purse bid. Hearn is trolling

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    • ShoulderRoll
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      #12
      Originally posted by Bronx2245
      Hearn breaking it down simple and plain! Now, let's see if he can come up with the loot?

      This same tactic should be used by Shawn Porter! Have the WBO enforce your mandatory, then go to purse bid for Crawford! If Bob wants to be cheap...cool, fight goes on FOX! If Bob says Crawford has to vacate his title...cool, Crawford leaves TR, and no one could blame him!
      Hell yeah. Shawn Porter should force the Terence Crawford fight to go to purse bid.

      If PBC wins the bid they can put the fight on their side of the street. And if Crawford refuses to fight Porter then he'll have to drop the belt and PBC will have all the 147 lb belts in-house.

      They won't even need Crawford anymore to unify.

      These are smart warfare tactics.

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      • Corelone
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        #13
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        Hearn is trolling
        He doesn't want this fight, much less out bid anybody. It's not the fight he cares about, it's the aftermath. Can he sink a hook in the winner?

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          #14
          Originally posted by Corelone
          He doesn't want this fight, much less out bid anybody. It's not the fight he cares about, it's the aftermath. Can he sink a hook in the winner?
          No. Top Rank isn't letting Eddie get anywhere close to one of their fighters without their involvement

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          • factsarenice
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            #15
            Did you ever want to see the best fight the best or is it always about promotional tribalism for you?

            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            Hell yeah. Shawn Porter should force the Terence Crawford fight to go to purse bid.

            If PBC wins the bid they can put the fight on their side of the street. And if Crawford refuses to fight Porter then he'll have to drop the belt and PBC will have all the 147 lb belts in-house.

            They won't even need Crawford anymore to unify.

            These are smart warfare tactics.

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            • factsarenice
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              #16
              What happen to 10 million? Kinda looks like Teofimo isn't worth 1million....amiright?

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                #17
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                Hell yeah. Shawn Porter should force the Terence Crawford fight to go to purse bid.

                If PBC wins the bid they can put the fight on their side of the street. And if Crawford refuses to fight Porter then he'll have to drop the belt and PBC will have all the 147 lb belts in-house.

                They won't even need Crawford anymore to unify.

                These are smart warfare tactics.
                Actually, Crawford should encourage his "friend" to do it! That WBO Belt has become a noose!

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                • factsarenice
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  Hearn breaking it down simple and plain! Now, let's see if he can come up with the loot?

                  This same tactic should be used by Shawn Porter! Have the WBO enforce your mandatory, then go to purse bid for Crawford! If Bob wants to be cheap...cool, fight goes on FOX! If Bob says Crawford has to vacate his title...cool, Crawford leaves TR, and no one could blame him! Not everyone is intimidated by Bob Arum:

                  Mikey Garcia talks possible Pacquiao fight, old issues with Arum and Top Rank, welterweight targets, and more

                  On his recent comments about ex-promoter Bob Arum

                  “I think it’s time for people to just ****in’ know there’s other things that happen in boxing, and how business is run. These so-called businesspeople, promoters or managers, whatever, they get all offended when somebody talks bad about them, but they’re able to open their mouths and talk down to fighters. That’s bull****. So I said, ‘Ah, **** that.’

                  “I get all these messages all the time from fans, ‘Oh, you should fight this guy, you should fight that guy, why didn’t you fight this guy? Why don’t you fight Loma, Why don’t you fight Teofimo, Why don’t you fight Crawford?’ Again, the fans sometimes don’t know all the intricacies, all the details behind it.

                  “I’m trying to remind people, me and Top Rank had a falling out. I kept it cordial for a long time, and most people at Top Rank have always been respectful. But every once in a while, here comes Bob opening his big mouth, without even knowing — I don’t even believe he knows the actual details! I don’t think they even told him the truth. The people around him were only giving him their side of the story to make them look like they’re doing such a great job and I was the one being difficult, when it really wasn’t like that.

                  “I proposed to mediate, I proposed to negotiate a new contract, I proposed to settle, I proposed a lot of things before finally going to court. They always kept shutting it down. I don’t think Bob Arum knew all this stuff. So it’s easy for him to open his mouth without even knowing the facts, and that’s when I said, ‘I ain’t gonna keep quiet no more. I don’t have to keep quiet, I ain’t got no business with him.’

                  “If they’re such professionals about their job and their promotions, they should keep my business away and separate our conflicts and our disagreements with other fighters. My brother has a lot of fighters with Top Rank, and they shouldn’t get hurt if I say something bad about the company. That shouldn’t reflect on the other fighters. That shouldn’t overlap or roll over. They should be able to deal with the differences. But whenever someone says something bad about them, they get all butt-hurt and they call my brother and they call my nephew, ‘I shouldn’t be doing this, I shouldn’t be doing that,’ but they’re able to do whatever they want and no repercussions. So I said **** that, no more.”

                  On the end of his deal with Top Rank

                  “At the end of my contract with Top Rank, it was my second contract with them, I had just had my title defense Jan. 2014, and my contract expired in Feb. 2014, except a condition that stated if I was champion, I owed them x amount of title fights. My understanding was that I would give them I think three title defenses or title fights.

                  “Since my contract was up other than the extension, I asked to negotiate another contract. They said no, and they tried to offer me a fight with (Yuriorkis) Gamboa, but they wanted me to sign a whole new contract. Another three-year contract. But they didn’t want to renegotiate the terms, they just wanted to extend the term of the contract without negotiating purses or any details. I said no, I’ll take the Gamboa fight without any extensions, just keep the contract as it is. They said no, they needed me to sign another extension.

                  “So you’re asking me to sign a whole new contract, what’s the contract right now? What are the terms right now? I thought you said we still have an extension already. But they knew that could end any time, so they wanted me to sign a whole new contract, and I said no, and that’s when we entered the lawsuit. Then later that same year, because of inactivity, the WBO asked me to vacate the title, they basically stripped me of the title. It had been nine or 10 months of no fights. ... I was forced to vacate the title, not under my own will, it was just Top Rank wouldn’t book any fights for me.

                  Now I have no title, OK? I have no title fights, and I have no title defenses to offer. And it’s all Top Rank’s faults. So if I don’t have any title fights or defenses to offer, how can you apply that clause that extends the contract? So that was my whole argument. It’s not only unfair for me to not fight, and it’s Top Rank’s fault that it’s not happening.

                  “I tried to go to mediation, I tried to renegotiate, I gave them the opportunity to work fight-by-fight or five fights at a time. I tried to smooth things out, they said, ‘Nope, nope, nope.’ Until the very last moment and I was able to walk away without paying them, without negotiating — the only fight to probably have done that. It’s all good. But it did take time from my career.”

                  That’s the kind of thought I have against Bob Arum and some of those (at) Top Rank, because they obviously didn’t care if I had any way to make a living or not. They weren’t letting me fight, but then they also weren’t giving me opportunities to fight (elsewhere). If they really believed the contract was valid, then why not offer me any fights? Why not do their part as a promoter under contract? They were supposed to get me four fights per year, and they didn’t offer a single one.

                  “If that’s the way they behave, then **** them. They don’t care. They’re just an assembly line. They have their fighter, they groom him, they make him into a mini-star, then a big star, and they squeeze everything they can out of him, and when that fighter loses or is done, they throw him away and go on to the next guy. They’re an assembly line, they don’t really care about the fighters or their well-being.

                  “Now they a very good company to groom a fighter, to build a fighter. Some of the biggest stars have been affiliated with Top Rank at one point or another, but guess what? Most of the ones that have made it so much bigger have also left the company. If everybody’s leaving the company, it must be for a reason.”

                  https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/2/9...xing-news-2021
                  Good read. Oddly, the shoe is on the other foot with Crawford. Arum is doing everything he can to get out of that contract because it's costing him not the fighter.

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Hell yeah. Shawn Porter should force the Terence Crawford fight to go to purse bid.

                    If PBC wins the bid they can put the fight on their side of the street. And if Crawford refuses to fight Porter then he'll have to drop the belt and PBC will have all the 147 lb belts in-house.

                    They won't even need Crawford anymore to unify.

                    These are smart warfare tactics.
                    According to Kenny Porter the negotiations for Crawford-Porter are going smoothly and so far there’s no obstacle in sight.

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                    • BoxingIsGreat
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by factsarenice
                      What happen to 10 million? Kinda looks like Teofimo isn't worth 1million....amiright?
                      Not sure Lopez even makes 1 mil. Arum isn't willing to avoid the purse bid and do it inhouse for even 1.5 mil or a little more. Lopez is all talk and appears like a big coward for ducking the whole division with his 10 mil BS.

                      Bob Arum gets the last laugh!

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