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  • psychopath
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    #21
    Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
    whats so ****** about it? hes fought cab drivers, and unemployed street car conductors. thats not exactly the resume of some1 whos "going down in the history books".
    Damn what's so ****** about it? Are you using common sense dude?

    Cab drivers and unemployed conductors? Separate the HYPES from the facts. If you're going to consider that line of reasoning dude, then Margarito is real BUM. isn't that right?

    Now explain to me why PBF would refuse to fight that BUM guy for $8 Million? If it's true that Margarito is such an easy work then PBF could have taken that offer, make a quick work out of him and knock him out in the first 20 seconds of the first round, collect his $8 MIL and then go home rich and at the same time he can shut the mouths of a lot of people and then earn respect. Does that makes sense to you people?

    PBF said "if it makes $$$$, it makes sense". So by refusing that fight PBF is saying that an easy $8 Mil doesn't make sense? And you people are agreeing and is helping him out to justify?

    As I said PBF simply opens his mouth too much for his own good. PBF just ate out his own bull****s and humilated himself. He is not smart as people perceived him to be.

    Just use your brains and stop being a blind follower.

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      #22
      Originally posted by charlie31
      what has Floyd done at welter to deserve a shot with Baldimor?




      you're dumb
      Ask Baldomir. He's the one who called out Floyd after the Gatti fight...

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      • TheEvilSaint
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        #23
        Originally posted by psychopath
        Damn what's so ****** about it? Are you using common sense dude?

        Cab drivers and unemployed conductors? Separate the HYPES from the facts. If you're going to consider that line of reasoning dude, then Margarito is real BUM. isn't that right?

        Now explain to me why PBF would refuse to fight that BUM guy for $8 Million? If it's true that Margarito is such an easy work then PBF could have taken that offer, make a quick work out of him and knock him out in the first 20 seconds of the first round, collect his $8 MIL and then go home rich and at the same time he can shut the mouths of a lot of people and then earn respect. Does that makes sense to you people?

        PBF said "if it makes $$$$, it makes sense". So by refusing that fight PBF is saying that an easy $8 Mil doesn't make sense? And you people are agreeing and is helping him out to justify?

        As I said PBF simply opens his mouth too much for his own good. PBF just ate out his own bull****s and humilated himself. He is not smart as people perceived him to be.

        Just use your brains and stop being a blind follower.
        i never said margarito was a bum and i never said it would be an easy fight for floyd. and thats just $8 mil for floyd. he can make more than that with a fight with baldy.

        all im saying is that margarito has done nothing to deserve a shot at floyd meanwhile floyd can get a bigger name and bigger money in a fight with baldy. now margarito is not a bum, and hes damn sure not an "easy" fight for floyd.

        with consecutive wins over judah and gatti, a lot of attention is on baldy, much more attention than margarito. people know him, eyes are on him, names are now on his record, and he has the title of "top welter in the world". all margarito has is the WBO belt and a string of nobodies on his record.

        baldy is where the money is at, baldy has the title, baldy is the champ right now. its a smart move on floyds part to take a fight with baldy. its where the money is and its for the real title.

        psycho, i got nothing against you and im not trying to provoke anyone. chill, dude.

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          #24
          Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
          i never said margarito was a bum and i never said it would be an easy fight for floyd. and thats just $8 mil for floyd. he can make more than that with a fight with baldy.

          all im saying is that margarito has done nothing to deserve a shot at floyd meanwhile floyd can get a bigger name and bigger money in a fight with baldy. now margarito is not a bum, and hes damn sure not an "easy" fight for floyd.

          with consecutive wins over judah and gatti, a lot of attention is on baldy, much more attention than margarito. people know him, eyes are on him, names are now on his record, and he has the title of "top welter in the world". all margarito has is the WBO belt and a string of nobodies on his record.

          baldy is where the money is at, baldy has the title, baldy is the champ right now. its a smart move on floyds part to take a fight with baldy. its where the money is and its for the real title.

          psycho, i got nothing against you and im not trying to provoke anyone. chill, dude.

          Yes you didn't call Margarito a Bum, but that is implied. What do you call a fighter fighting taxi cabs and jobless conductors? The only problem here is you people doesn't feel and understand what this sports is all about.

          When a title holder calls out another title holder all craps and bull****s including ring records should fly out the window because of pride and ego. If you'll question records then Baldo despite being the linear Champ has a worst record than Maragrito. How many loses does he have? And against who? Got my point?

          Yes PBF might (because no figures have been comfirmed yet) be getting a little bit higher amount of money by fighting Baldomir, but that was only realized recently. The Margarito offer has long been in the table. So I find it a late justification for Pbf's excuse.

          I don't have anything against you either and I don't hate PBF it's just that I always makes my stands on every issues based on logical reasonings.

          Peace!

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            #25
            You're usually logical Psychopath... but not in this argument.

            He didn't imply Margarito was a bum. You chose to infer it from his post, however, it is more likely Margarito would simply be a Bum Killer.

            If a title holder calls out another title holder.... Do you realize how many title holders there are in weight divisions nowadays? Williams is a title holder and just called out Margarito too. If he does not accept the challenge he is a ducker.

            You then go on to discuss records. It's not just records, it's not just belts, it's not just opponents... it's all of them. Margarito might have a better record but has no names. Baldomir might not have the better record but he has the better names and better belts.

            Also, Floyd does say it's all about $ and whatnot. I think it's safe to say that Floyd knew he wanted more than 8 million dollars for a fight. Plenty goes on behind the scenes that we as fans aren't privey to. While shopping around for offers of fights between promoters and such he was most likely looking at large figures for most of them. When Baldomir came out of nowhere and then won both fights in a row... Mayweather's camp then checked out the offer they could get for that fight and it came back the highest.

            While some of this is speculation on your part, so is your post. THe 8million dollars that was offered to Floyd could've easily come with stipulations the general public didn't know. And if you're simply all up in arms about this due to the fact that it was a belt holder calling out another belt holder.... I'd find a new sport to enjoy since this isn't exactly a rare occurence in the sport the past 20 years.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
              You're usually logical Psychopath... but not in this argument.

              He didn't imply Margarito was a bum. You chose to infer it from his post, however, it is more likely Margarito would simply be a Bum Killer.

              If a title holder calls out another title holder.... Do you realize how many title holders there are in weight divisions nowadays? Williams is a title holder and just called out Margarito too. If he does not accept the challenge he is a ducker.

              You then go on to discuss records. It's not just records, it's not just belts, it's not just opponents... it's all of them. Margarito might have a better record but has no names. Baldomir might not have the better record but he has the better names and better belts.

              Also, Floyd does say it's all about $ and whatnot. I think it's safe to say that Floyd knew he wanted more than 8 million dollars for a fight. Plenty goes on behind the scenes that we as fans aren't privey to. While shopping around for offers of fights between promoters and such he was most likely looking at large figures for most of them. When Baldomir came out of nowhere and then won both fights in a row... Mayweather's camp then checked out the offer they could get for that fight and it came back the highest.

              While some of this is speculation on your part, so is your post. THe 8million dollars that was offered to Floyd could've easily come with stipulations the general public didn't know. And if you're simply all up in arms about this due to the fact that it was a belt holder calling out another belt holder.... I'd find a new sport to enjoy since this isn't exactly a rare occurence in the sport the past 20 years.

              He didn't imply that Margarito is a BUM?

              When you question a belt holder's resume and openly declare he's been fighting taxi drivers and jobless conductors, it's a lot worse of an insult than calling him straight up a BUM. what's wrong with you?

              Williams is a title holder? Wrong again, Nopes definitely not. Where did you get your information? Williams is rated No 1 contender by WBO (a mandatory for Margarito), 2 by WBC right behind PBF. He is also rated no 7 by WBA, rated no 5 by IBF. So what title are you talking about?

              But Irregardless, I know Margarito was just called out by Williams and check my postings on that thread, I clearly stated that if Margrito doesn't fight Williams then he is ducking him. At least I can say that for now because realistically there's no way a fight between these two won't happen since Williams is mandatory, Margarito has no choice but to defend his title gainst him. Isn't that real?

              As to PBF again, I respect fighters who have dignity even if they are not title holders. So I'll have more respect for Baldomir who has more loses but then have the balls to prove what comes out of his mouth than PBF who has the highest stature in this sports and yet makes excuses when confronted with all the bull****s which came out of his own mouth.

              Baldomir said he wants PBF? So he's fighting PBF. Yeah Floyd said it's all about money, that's why he's a ****i'n disgrace to this sports. Money is always the easiest excuse buddy, especially to fighters without dignity.

              You're too fast to jump and say I'm not being logical here, well maybe it's because we're standing on different values and beliefs.

              Always separate the facts from the HYPES.
              Last edited by psychopath; 08-22-2006, 09:45 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by psychopath
                When you question a belt holder's resume and openly declare he's been fighting taxi drivers and jobless conductors, it's a lot worse of an insult than calling him straight up a BUM. what's wrong with you?
                Are you crazy? Yeah, being called a bum is much better than saying you've fought weaker opposition most of your career.... What's wrong with you, is the better question.

                Williams is a title holder? Wrong again, Nopes definitely not. Where did you get your information? Williams is rated No 1 contender by WBO (a mandatory for Margarito), 2 by WBC right behind PBF. He is also rated no 7 by WBA, rated no 5 by IBF. So what title are you talking about?
                I'm talking about 2 ridiculously ****ty belts he holds that are practically meaningless. But then Which belt does Margarito have? The WBO which has been considered a "legitimate" belt for a handful of years now and originally won it while it was vacant.

                As to PBF again, I respect fighters who have dignity even if they are not title holders. So I'll have more respect for Baldomir who has more loses but then have the balls to prove what comes out of his mouth than PBF who has the highest stature in this sports and yet makes excuses when confronted with all the bull****s which came out of his own mouth.
                You don't have to respect Floyd. But you can't disrepsect his accomplishments despite how much you might dislike his attitute towards the sport and his opponents. I'm also unsure how Floyd hsa been confronted with bull**** thats come out of his mouth other than 1) calling Gatti a bum then a true champ, which was simply him hyping the fight and then acknowledging Gatti as a boxer for the people. and 2) Him saying $ was what made sense to him only to turn down Margarito's 8million dollar offer... only to get more for fighting Baldomir.

                Baldomir said he wants PBF? So he's fighting PBF. Yeah Floyd said it's all about money, that's why he's a ****i'n disgrace to this sports. Money is always the easiest excuse buddy, especially to fighters without dignity.
                Baldomir wants PBF because Baldomir wants $. If he were a true champion he would've fought Margarito like everybody thinks Floyd should have... Lawl.

                Always separate the facts from the HYPES.
                Always seperate the Bum Killers with an ingenious promoter from the real deal.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by charlie31
                  lol, sure Gatti is very popular you idiot but that dont make a GOOD fighter , dont be so ******!..he lost to MICKEY FREAKIN WARD!


                  judah isnt a big name! he is most known for his chicken dance when Kosta KO'D HIM!!!!!!


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                    #29
                    whyd he get banned? not stickin up for him but just wantin to know why?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
                      Are you crazy? Yeah, being called a bum is much better than saying you've fought weaker opposition most of your career.... What's wrong with you, is the better question.
                      And that insult doesn't degrade Margrito? Lmao!


                      Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
                      I'm talking about 2 ridiculously ****ty belts he holds that are practically meaningless. But then Which belt does Margarito have? The WBO which has been considered a "legitimate" belt for a handful of years now and originally won it while it was vacant.
                      Oh yeah ****ty belts? And what are those belts?

                      And Irregardless how Margarito got his belt, he is legitimately a belt holder dude, who's offering $8 Mil to get his shot. Ouch!


                      Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
                      You don't have to respect Floyd. But you can't disrepsect his accomplishments despite how much you might dislike his attitute towards the sport and his opponents. I'm also unsure how Floyd hsa been confronted with bull**** thats come out of his mouth other than 1) calling Gatti a bum then a true champ, which was simply him hyping the fight and then acknowledging Gatti as a boxer for the people. and 2) Him saying $ was what made sense to him only to turn down Margarito's 8million dollar offer... only to get more for fighting Baldomir.
                      No I'm not disrecpecting his accomplishments but I'm not gonna justify his ******ity and his dirty mouth.

                      More? You're the one speculating. There's no figures released yet so how can you justify he's getting more. Pbf will be lucky if it will really turn out to be more because even if it's late it can justify his act. But then again it's a very late justification.

                      Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
                      Baldomir wants PBF because Baldomir wants $. If he were a true champion he would've fought Margarito like everybody thinks Floyd should have... Lawl.
                      Baldomir definitely wants PBF because of money and of course stature like why Margarito like to fight PBF, no problem with that. The point is he does what comes out of his mouth. He is even willing to fight HATTON.

                      Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
                      Always seperate the Bum Killers with an ingenious promoter from the real deal.
                      No separate the truth from the HYPES so you won't be blinded by hero worshipping. A fighter who can't do what comes out of his mouth is certainly not the real deal, not even close.

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