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  • TernceBudCharlo
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    #21
    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
    Absolute best 5:

    Davis
    Canelo
    Estrada
    Crawford
    Usyk

    I don't care for P4P.
    I almost like this formulation of it better, resume means **** to me unless you convincingly beat everyone, p4p is a question of who are the 5 hardest guys in boxing to defeat at any given time. Hard for me to rank Canelo #1 cuz we already know there are at least 3 guys who can beat him (GGG, Lara, Trout, all of them arguably did it in the ring). So how can you indisputably say he's the best when 3 guys are basically just as good as he is? Now Tank Davis and Crawford, everyone they face ends up on a body bag. Estrada, he's looked damn good lately, I. put him in my top 5. That is not a guy Id bet against at his weight class no matter who the opponent.

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      #22
      Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
      I almost like this formulation of it better, resume means **** to me unless you convincingly beat everyone, p4p is a question of who are the 5 hardest guys in boxing to defeat at any given time. Hard for me to rank Canelo #1 cuz we already know there are at least 3 guys who can beat him (GGG, Lara, Trout, all of them arguably did it in the ring). So how can you indisputably say he's the best when 3 guys are basically just as good as he is? Now Tank Davis and Crawford, everyone they face ends up on a body bag. Estrada, he's looked damn good lately, I. put him in my top 5. That is not a guy Id bet against at his weight class no matter who the opponent.
      I don't rate Usyk at heavy. I think his great work was done at cruiser. Usyk looked like the perfect fighter against Glowacki. One of the most impressive wins I have seen.

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        #23
        Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
        I almost like this formulation of it better, resume means **** to me unless you convincingly beat everyone, p4p is a question of who are the 5 hardest guys in boxing to defeat at any given time. Hard for me to rank Canelo #1 cuz we already know there are at least 3 guys who can beat him (GGG, Lara, Trout, all of them arguably did it in the ring). So how can you indisputably say he's the best when 3 guys are basically just as good as he is? Now Tank Davis and Crawford, everyone they face ends up on a body bag. Estrada, he's looked damn good lately, I. put him in my top 5. That is not a guy Id bet against at his weight class no matter who the opponent.
        Also people say "well WHAT ABOUT FLOYD he had close fights but you ranked him #1 p4p?" Yes but the difference is he rematched all those guys and DOMINATED in convincing fashion. No questions left to the table. Sure, Canelo did give GGG a rematch, but it was really GGG who gave eCanelo a rematch that he didn't deserve since it was canelo who failed the drug test and didn't win the belts.

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          #24
          Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
          I don't rate Usyk at heavy. I think his great work was done at cruiser. Usyk looked like the perfect fighter against Glowacki.
          True that, I didn't talk bout Usyk in my post. He was the real deal at cruiser, although the Breidies fight I was thinking meh. But then the way he dominated Gassiev in the finals, that was pretty impressive too.

          Glowacki was legit also.

          Michale Hunter is my boy too, it was painful to watch that fight. But props to Usyk.

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            #25
            Canelo
            Crawford
            Inoue
            Estrada
            Usyk

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