Grade fighter day 2: what grade would you give Deontay Wilder?

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  • HitmanTommy
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    #1

    Grade fighter day 2: what grade would you give Deontay Wilder?

    Disclaimer: These threads will be MAILED in a envelope and sent to each individual fighter on what the public thinks of their boxing. The cutoff for these votes will be 24 hours. After that, the poll closes and the thread along with the poll results gets mailed off to the fighters address.

    Day 1: Frank Bruno 21 votes: Majority grade = B

    34
    A+
    2.94%
    1
    A
    11.76%
    4
    B+
    8.82%
    3
    B
    20.59%
    7
    C+
    29.41%
    10
    C
    11.76%
    4
    D+
    5.88%
    2
    D
    0%
    0
    F
    8.82%
    3
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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    C.

    Technically limited, not much creativity and grasp of basic fundamentals. Wilder seems to struggle throwing straight punches, and shortening his punches to adapt his attacks 'His offense is one dimensional'.

    But? As a fighter Deontay Wilder is extremely game. Wilder's gameness is not entirely influenced by him being physically durable, because he visibly looks unstable 'Most of the time he is inside of the ring' Wilder is forever being hurt and having to whether some sort of storm.

    On another thread I mentioned to another poster, that I was watching something about Godzilla vs Kong. The online fanatics where discussing the mentality of each warrior creature. Specifically it was stated that Godzilla's mentality in battle is to never take a step backwards, even when he is beaten to near defeat 'The only thing on Godzilla's mind, is to rise again and continue to fight'.

    What this does to his opponents is destroy their morale 'Deontay Wilder in some ways is the same as Godzilla' thus-far inside of the ring, it does not matter what sort of damage his opponent inflicts on him 'Or how dominant they appear to be performing against him'. Wilder will continually keep rising, that primal instinct within humans that does not get tested these days 'Is highly active within Deontay Wilder'.

    Tyson Fury during their rematch was beating Deontay Wilder in every single department, Wilder was having a terrible time 'Stumbling about and being critically damaged'. But even still Wilder never once gave up on himself, THIS is something people do not want to talk about when it comes to that rematch 'The media has attempted to portray a image and version of history, where Deontay Wilder gave up on himself and was beaten into submission'.

    Tyson Fury deep down knows, that even under the conditions of his culture? That he did not break Wilder. Forget boxing, Tyson Fury speaks of himself as a fighting man 'In his culture, he knows full well that he did not break or beat Wilder into submission' For all we know, this could be bothering him.

    I don't think Fury is afraid of Wilder, but does he need that type of individual in his life? Somebody who is going to keep rising, and has the power to change a fight in a instant 'Wilder has power and gameness' but all of his other abilities are quite limited.

    Note: B-/C.
    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 01-30-2021, 08:00 AM.

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    • REDEEMER
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      Never saw a top fighter fall over his own punches on average . You can’t really rate a fighter on just power and when he feels like looking half decent . On overall performances he probably gets a D losing most rounds or depending on stoppages to win but he has ability to set up shots and lure someone in the big punch .

      His resume is underwhelming and lacks legit top quality so I’m not sure what we’re rating him on ?


      C -
      Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-30-2021, 08:25 AM.

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        A. Not the most technically skilled but 10 defences of the HW title is unquestionably impressive.

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        • Dfw817
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          I give him a b. Hes really a c but with the power he has bumbs him up to a b. But hes a pos in general he lost both fury fights and then makes up some crazy ass excuses hes pretty pathetic deff not a fan on widmill wilder pss. He is not no ****ing king like he thinks

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          • Dodger07
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            #6
            Hes a C fighter with A+ power. So that averages to about a B+ level overall

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            • *Makaveli*
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              C+

              He gets A- for athleticism A for punching power and A+ for excuses. C for chin D+ for ring IQ . D for technique and D- for defence.

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              • boliodogs
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                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                C.

                Technically limited, not much creativity and grasp of basic fundamentals. Wilder seems to struggle throwing straight punches, and shortening his punches to adapt his attacks 'His offense is one dimensional'.

                But? As a fighter Deontay Wilder is extremely game. Wilder's gameness is not entirely influenced by him being physically durable, because he visibly looks unstable 'Most of the time he is inside of the ring' Wilder is forever being hurt and having to whether some sort of storm.

                On another thread I mentioned to another poster, that I was watching something about Godzilla vs Kong. The online fanatics where discussing the mentality of each warrior creature. Specifically it was stated that Godzilla's mentality in battle is to never take a step backwards, even when he is beaten to near defeat 'The only thing on Godzilla's mind, is to rise again and continue to fight'.

                What this does to his opponents is destroy their morale 'Deontay Wilder in some ways is the same as Godzilla' thus-far inside of the ring, it does not matter what sort of damage his opponent inflicts on him 'Or how dominant they appear to be performing against him'. Wilder will continually keep rising, that primal instinct within humans that does not get tested these days 'Is highly active within Deontay Wilder'.

                Tyson Fury during their rematch was beating Deontay Wilder in every single department, Wilder was having a terrible time 'Stumbling about and being critically damaged'. But even still Wilder never once gave up on himself, THIS is something people do not want to talk about when it comes to that rematch 'The media has attempted to portray a image and version of history, where Deontay Wilder gave up on himself and was beaten into submission'.

                Tyson Fury deep down knows, that even under the conditions of his culture? That he did not break Wilder. Forget boxing, Tyson Fury speaks of himself as a fighting man 'In his culture, he knows full well that he did not break or beat Wilder into submission' For all we know, this could be bothering him.

                I don't think Fury is afraid of Wilder, but does he need that type of individual in his life? Somebody who is going to keep rising, and has the power to change a fight in a instant 'Wilder has power and gameness' but all of his other abilities are quite limited.

                Note: B-/C.
                Wilder has no problem throwing straight punches. He has a strong left jab and his straight right is probably the hardest punch in boxing today. He knocks many opponents out cold with a single straight right. He does get sloppy and wild and throw wide looping punches sometimes but he can and does throw good straight punches.

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                • boliodogs
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                  I gave Wilder a grade of B because he was a decent champion winning many title defenses by KO. He might be a lower grade now after the Fury loss and his possible mental breakdown. He should have fought more top guys in defense of his world title and he often defended his title against boxers who were not worthy of a title shot.

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                  • Nash out
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                    It's hard to grade Wilder, as because of his immense one punch power (best of all time imo) his belief, athleticism, and speed, he has really good attributes, despite being technically quite poor. Some say Ali is the best ever, I disagree, but Wilder could easily on his day KO a prime Ali, so he is an elite HW, just in a very unconventional way.

                    It's different having huge power at HW's compared to other weights, as the lower the weight, you can ride out the storm of a massive shot, but at HW, it's often night over.

                    For example, if Mosley vs Mayweather was a HW fight, and Mosley landed that bomb that Mayweather rode out, he may not have had the chance to do that at HW.
                    Last edited by Nash out; 01-30-2021, 08:36 PM.

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