Comments Thread For: Takam Recalls Awkward Exchange With Anthony Joshua Prior To 2017 Fight

[Inspired]

let's stop the propaganda. AJ turned down $50M 50/50 split to fight wilder. To only take let money to get beat up by ruiz in the US and took less of a guarantee to fight fury smh

the split is smaller for AJ against Fury but the fight is now MUCH bigger becaus of fury-wilder and the money it took to promote that fight.
you clearly dont know **** about anything, contexts, facts etc.

we know the $50m offer was bs because they didnt reveal their terms and refused to meet with eddie even when he was in NYC on camera saying 'al haymon/shelly need to talk to me'

what sort of bs is 'accept the offer first'?
finkle to dan rafael/espn: no rematch if aj loses, when/where wilder wants
frank warren & finkle: the contract was guaranteed 2 fights for $80m

which one was it?
they said they'd accepted $15m later..
then they delayed signing it until canelo vs ggg was announced 2 weeks before the fight date, forcing showtime (which espinoza clearly had planned) to ask for aj-wilder to get a new date to accomodate 2 ppv fights.
eddie said 'if it's in october then we cant do wembley because of the rain, so we can do it in cardiff (closing roof stadium) in front of 80k fans for october'
but team wilder clung onto 'no date, no venue, no rematch clause'

[Inspired]

in fact aj's loss to ruiz made him more popular, it's what got a load of attention and made the saudis pay $100m for aj-ruiz..and that's the only reason now fury-aj will be mega because of saudi money.

[Bob]

Klitschko 41 & only age beat Klitschko that great night ,Takem 38 bent ref, Pov 38, Pulev 40. In between Parker with a ref who stopped the fight every time he hit back & top 15 Ruiz who rag dolled the hypejob.
Nobody else see a pattern of past it old men?
On top of that ducked Wilder in 18 & even on an interview on sky said "i won't be rushed into the Wilder fight" when asked when he said"19 20 21"Hearn then said 2020. On top of that blocked fight's with rematch clauses we all saw Ruiz was bound to that don't belong in sport. Should have gone back of the line.
I'm still stunned we might be getting undesputed, maybe he's grown a pair at last as he's still not boxed a top 2 prime heavyweight, never been in a 5050 fight or an underdog xD

But after all that if undesputed happens & if Aj manages to win. I'll be really happy for him & the sport, though i want Fury to ruin the 2 times! #####t

Idrr

[Bob]

the split is smaller for AJ against Fury but the fight is now MUCH bigger becaus of fury-wilder and the money it took to promote that fight.
you clearly dont know **** about anything, contexts, facts etc.

we know the $50m offer was bs because they didnt reveal their terms and refused to meet with eddie even when he was in NYC on camera saying 'al haymon/shelly need to talk to me'

what sort of bs is 'accept the offer first'?
finkle to dan rafael/espn: no rematch if aj loses, when/where wilder wants
frank warren & finkle: the contract was guaranteed 2 fights for $80m

which one was it?
they said they'd accepted $15m later..
then they delayed signing it until canelo vs ggg was announced 2 weeks before the fight date, forcing showtime (which espinoza clearly had planned) to ask for aj-wilder to get a new date to accomodate 2 ppv fights.
eddie said 'if it's in october then we cant do wembley because of the rain, so we can do it in cardiff (closing roof stadium) in front of 80k fans for october'
but team wilder clung onto 'no date, no venue, no rematch clause'

Wow! Written by a true fanboy that cant read a calendar. In 18 before the dazn offer Aj said on an interview on sky "i won't be rushed into the Wilder fight" when asked when he said"19 20 21"Hearn then said 2020. Then all the bs flat fee offers happened. Wilder even called they're bluff & accepted the 15 mill flat fee which Hearn then replied "we can't get Wembly now for that date" Then Aj boxed Old man Pov in Wembley on that date. Wilder tried to salvage undesputed & found 50 million proven from multiple sources.

It's called marrination son because you see boxing isn't a sport any more it's a game of bull s#it & Hearns blown so much smoke up your ass you think you live in the smog xD

The Dazn offer yeh you or i would take it but even Dazn said they got the offer wrong & f-ed up plus if he had signed he would have had to cancel Fury 2 (tv) & Aj lost so he'd have been in no mans land xD

Idrr

[DougalDylan]

Here's a stat for you AJ has fought more current top 10 Ring Magazine fighters than Fury and Wilder combined !

Full props to Fury for that Klitschko win and maybe he beats AJ two times but credit to AJ for that overall resume he's credit to that division.

Wilder .. dear god look at his record .. he ducked how many chances to get a belt and unify against sooooooooooo many opponents.

At 33 fights Finkel ...
“Look, (Wilder) is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight, they'll be a time for unification, they'll be a time for all those things, he could go and Povetkin (the No. 2 contender) in Russia and make $10 million,” Finkel said to the Tuscaloosa News. “It's not the right thing yet. Give him a couple of fights, maybe bring something back to Alabama. Let him develop just like any other athlete. They don't take someone who is a great college prospect and throw him right in. And this kid is a great prospect.”

Klitschko 41 & only age beat Klitschko that great night ,Takem 38 bent ref, Pov 38, Pulev 40. In between Parker with a ref who stopped the fight every time he hit back & top 15 Ruiz who rag dolled the hypejob.
Nobody else see a pattern of past it old men?
On top of that ducked Wilder in 18 & even on an interview on sky said "i won't be rushed into the Wilder fight" when asked when he said"19 20 21"Hearn then said 2020. On top of that blocked fight's with rematch clauses we all saw Ruiz was bound to that don't belong in sport. Should have gone back of the line.
I'm still stunned we might be getting undesputed, maybe he's grown a pair at last as he's still not boxed a top 2 prime heavyweight, never been in a 5050 fight or an underdog xD

But after all that if undesputed happens & if Aj manages to win. I'll be really happy for him & the sport, though i want Fury to ruin the 2 times! #####t

Idrr

[Inspired]

Wow! Written by a true fanboy that cant read a calendar. In 18 before the dazn offer Aj said on an interview on sky "i won't be rushed into the Wilder fight" when asked when he said"19 20 21"Hearn then said 2020. Then all the bs flat fee offers happened. Wilder even called they're bluff & accepted the 15 mill flat fee which Hearn then replied "we can't get Wembly now for that date" Then Aj boxed Old man Pov in Wembley on that date. Wilder tried to salvage undesputed & found 50 million proven from multiple sources.

It's called marrination son because you see boxing isn't a sport any more it's a game of bull s#it & Hearns blown so much smoke up your ass you think you live in the smog xD

The Dazn offer yeh you or i would take it but even Dazn said they got the offer wrong & f-ed up plus if he had signed he would have had to cancel Fury 2 (tv) & Aj lost so he'd have been in no mans land xD

Idrr

'true fanboy' is a slur and designed to discredit what i said. if you want to go through this and discuss it like a grown up, no problem.
we're grown men, not kids ffs. we're both capable of thinking rationally and being fair. this isnt no fanboy crap man, im sticking to what happened.

i actually run a business, used to work in my shop all day and would have ifl videos up so i remember everything well.
in fact i used to HATE eddie hearn and team froch/brook (the edl right fans backing them). However...im now being called a 'fanboy' because im defending their side and not buying wilder/finkle and frankw arren's bs.

now to answer you

1)
you've failed to acknowledge that finkle did an interview with dan rafael where he insisted 'if aj loses then he doesnt get a rematch, it's when/where wilder wants'
YET later frank warren is saying 'i saw the contract'
frank warren claimed it would have been on bt sports and HE saw the contract, but eddie and aj who are involved were not allowed?

come on man that isn't fishy to you? that is dodgy beyond belief. hiding the contract from the person it concerns more than anyone else? aj can't see what's in the contract, has an exclusive deal with sky sports but frank says BT were going to put up the money? wtf. bt sports? not showtime? not al haymon? that's laughable. again aj was not allowed to see the contract unless he verbally accepted the offer. under US law, verbal agreements on video are legally binding btw. think about that.

2)
about what AJ said, you wrote this.
In 18 before the dazn offer Aj said on an interview on sky "i won't be rushed into the Wilder fight" when asked when he said"19 20 21


it's actually 2017 before even the wilder-ortiz fight.
here's what aj said

Joshua said: “This little devil on my shoulder — the fighting man says Wilder at Wembley 2018 boom.

“And then this devil on this shoulder, the manager hat says ‘what’s best to guide my career,’ so it’s playing devils advocate and putting them together and seeing what works out best for my career.”

“If Wilder works we’re going to make it happen in 2018, if Wilder isn’t the right opponent for next year, then we’ll put it back into 2019.

“But I’m just going to do things my way, people just can’t rush my career, that’s what I’ve learnt.


so why did you deliberately misinterpret this? are you frank warren or shelly finkle?
aj didnt say a single thing wrong there. he was the A side by a country mile back then and was true to his word, he booked wembley in 2018 and made REAL offers...not some fake hidden offer.



3)

you wrote

Then all the bs flat fee offers happened. Wilder even called they're bluff & accepted the 15 mill flat fee which Hearn then replied "we can't get Wembly now for that date" Then Aj boxed Old man Pov in Wembley on that date. Wilder tried to salvage undesputed & found 50 million proven from multiple sources.


i answered this already man.

the situation went like this
finkle publically accepted $15m. Eddie then said 'ive sent the contract to them, we're waiting on them'
weeks went by
team wilder then replied...and i swear
'IT DOESNT HAVE ANTHONY JOSHUA'S SIGNATURE, IT HAS EDDIE HEARN'S, WE CANT ACCEPT IT UNTIL AJ IS ON IT'

eddie then resends the contract with AJ's sig, once again
'no word from team wilder'

but then something goes down with espinoza heavily involved (and we know he is best buddies with wilder so they knew)

Canelo-GGG was announced for mid september. This meant showtime/espinoza couldnt have 2 ppv superfights on in the same month. they asked to change the date to an october date.
it rains heavily in october btw, wembley is a football stadium with no roof. Eddie improvised and said 'if it's in october then we'll do it in cardiff's stadium (closing roof stadium, 80k stadium btw)'


changing the date/venue was down to showtime clashing with the ggg-canelo fight they were also putting it on. if espinoza cared he would have forced ggg-canelo to october.
eddie also said 'it isnt a problem for us to keep our date/venue but it's a problem for showtime in america'

once team wilder rejected the contract they'd already accepted, they did so because 'no date no venue' which was cannon fodder and literally an excuse they'd created out of the canelo-ggg situation with espinoza on their side.
how the hell can you not see this man? YOU'RE THE FANBOY, not me, you're blatantly pretending this didnt happen.

once team wilder rejected the contract offer, the wbo stepped in with the povetkin mandatory fight.
since povetkin wasnt a ppv fight on showtime, they could have it back on the originally booked wembley date, at wembley.

so for wilder and yourself to later say 'but dey changededed it da dateded in da castle ova derez'
shows me you guys are uneducated hillbillies, ****** guys with no brain.
seriously man, get a grip of yourself. this isnt about sides it's about truth and facts.

i remember it all because it was the biggest story in boxing.
you still trust team wilder and finkle and frank warren to speak the truth lol? hidden offers.

why has eddie never had a problem putting aj with whyte, parker, klit, povetkin, ruiz on short notice?
never been a contract issue there, but only when it's wilder?
who has wilder fought for us to say he has credibility?
he only selected fury because he saw an easy target in a 50% fury and then he saw fury get damaged by otto wallin, jumped at it after that.

[Squared.Circle]

let's stop the propaganda. AJ turned down $50M 50/50 split to fight wilder. To only take let money to get beat up by ruiz in the US and took less of a guarantee to fight fury smh

Let's stop the propaganda.

"Verbally agree and we'll send you the terms"...."I'm not having a meeting with them, it would not be productive" – Shelly Finkle

Ducktay Whiner turned down multiple career-high paydays to go on fighting guys that have never been ranked in the top ten, for barely $1.5m. Shelly Finkle refused all attempts at negotiations before any negotiations could even be initiated after Ducktay Whiner lost to Fury for the first time, knowing full well that a 50/50 split was on the table. Ducktay Whiner then turned down $100m+ to fight AJ in favour of facing Fury, for no additional titles and barely $15m.

"I'll freeze AJ out of the division" – Ducktay Whiner

Karma's a biatch

[Squared.Circle]

...and then there was the one about the home cooked ref AJ needed to get past Parker and has avoided a rematch ever since.

Kinda like whyte, who also needed a home cooked ref to avoid being knocked the fudge out by Parker and is too chicken pooh for a rematch as well.

Though to be fair, both those decisions were more by Fast Eddie's shenanigans.

The last thing he wants is Parker anywhere near another title shot!

Just...lol

[Kezzer]

Takem was coming on strong against a fading AJ and the referee bizarrely stopped the fight

Coming on strong? He lost every round, had taken a beating including a knockdown. It wasn’t a bizarre stoppage at all. There wasn’t anyway you could see him even drawing the fight so why let him just take further punishment? Was sensible refereeing

[Squared.Circle]

'true fanboy' is a slur and designed to discredit what i said. if you want to go through this and discuss it like a grown up, no problem.
we're grown men, not kids ffs. we're both capable of thinking rationally and being fair. this isnt no fanboy crap man, im sticking to what happened.

i actually run a business, used to work in my shop all day and would have ifl videos up so i remember everything well.
in fact i used to HATE eddie hearn and team froch/brook (the edl right fans backing them). However...im now being called a 'fanboy' because im defending their side and not buying wilder/finkle and frankw arren's bs.

now to answer you

1)
you've failed to acknowledge that finkle did an interview with dan rafael where he insisted 'if aj loses then he doesnt get a rematch, it's when/where wilder wants'
YET later frank warren is saying 'i saw the contract'
frank warren claimed it would have been on bt sports and HE saw the contract, but eddie and aj who are involved were not allowed?

come on man that isn't fishy to you? that is dodgy beyond belief. hiding the contract from the person it concerns more than anyone else? aj can't see what's in the contract, has an exclusive deal with sky sports but frank says BT were going to put up the money? wtf. bt sports? not showtime? not al haymon? that's laughable. again aj was not allowed to see the contract unless he verbally accepted the offer. under US law, verbal agreements on video are legally binding btw. think about that.

2)
about what AJ said, you wrote this.
In 18 before the dazn offer Aj said on an interview on sky "i won't be rushed into the Wilder fight" when asked when he said"19 20 21


it's actually 2017 before even the wilder-ortiz fight.
here's what aj said

Joshua said: “This little devil on my shoulder — the fighting man says Wilder at Wembley 2018 boom.

“And then this devil on this shoulder, the manager hat says ‘what’s best to guide my career,’ so it’s playing devils advocate and putting them together and seeing what works out best for my career.”

“If Wilder works we’re going to make it happen in 2018, if Wilder isn’t the right opponent for next year, then we’ll put it back into 2019.

“But I’m just going to do things my way, people just can’t rush my career, that’s what I’ve learnt.


so why did you deliberately misinterpret this? are you frank warren or shelly finkle?
aj didnt say a single thing wrong there. he was the A side by a country mile back then and was true to his word, he booked wembley in 2018 and made REAL offers...not some fake hidden offer.



3)

you wrote

Then all the bs flat fee offers happened. Wilder even called they're bluff & accepted the 15 mill flat fee which Hearn then replied "we can't get Wembly now for that date" Then Aj boxed Old man Pov in Wembley on that date. Wilder tried to salvage undesputed & found 50 million proven from multiple sources.


i answered this already man.

the situation went like this
finkle publically accepted $15m. Eddie then said 'ive sent the contract to them, we're waiting on them'
weeks went by
team wilder then replied...and i swear
'IT DOESNT HAVE ANTHONY JOSHUA'S SIGNATURE, IT HAS EDDIE HEARN'S, WE CANT ACCEPT IT UNTIL AJ IS ON IT'

eddie then resends the contract with AJ's sig, once again
'no word from team wilder'

but then something goes down with espinoza heavily involved (and we know he is best buddies with wilder so they knew)

Canelo-GGG was announced for mid september. This meant showtime/espinoza couldnt have 2 ppv superfights on in the same month. they asked to change the date to an october date.
it rains heavily in october btw, wembley is a football stadium with no roof. Eddie improvised and said 'if it's in october then we'll do it in cardiff's stadium (closing roof stadium, 80k stadium btw)'


changing the date/venue was down to showtime clashing with the ggg-canelo fight they were also putting it on. if espinoza cared he would have forced ggg-canelo to october.
eddie also said 'it isnt a problem for us to keep our date/venue but it's a problem for showtime in america'

once team wilder rejected the contract they'd already accepted, they did so because 'no date no venue' which was cannon fodder and literally an excuse they'd created out of the canelo-ggg situation with espinoza on their side.
how the hell can you not see this man? YOU'RE THE FANBOY, not me, you're blatantly pretending this didnt happen.

once team wilder rejected the contract offer, the wbo stepped in with the povetkin mandatory fight.
since povetkin wasnt a ppv fight on showtime, they could have it back on the originally booked wembley date, at wembley.

so for wilder and yourself to later say 'but dey changededed it da dateded in da castle ova derez'
shows me you guys are uneducated hillbillies, ****** guys with no brain.
seriously man, get a grip of yourself. this isnt about sides it's about truth and facts.

i remember it all because it was the biggest story in boxing.
you still trust team wilder and finkle and frank warren to speak the truth lol? hidden offers.

why has eddie never had a problem putting aj with whyte, parker, klit, povetkin, ruiz on short notice?
never been a contract issue there, but only when it's wilder?
who has wilder fought for us to say he has credibility?
he only selected fury because he saw an easy target in a 50% fury and then he saw fury get damaged by otto wallin, jumped at it after that.

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