Comments Thread For: Ellerbe: A Lot Of People Will Disagree, But Tank-Ryan Garcia Is Biggest Fight In Boxing
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Unless someone beats Davis at 130 or 135, these two divisions are on a lockdown. Too many pretenders. Sort it out, or FO.Comment
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The only problem with the Pac fight is if it's an exhibition. That Exhibition part is horrible and Garcia who doesn’t have a belt yet at 135 is moving out of fire hot division to fight a much bigger fighter. The only driving force for the fight appears to be to hedge the 50/50 risk of a loss to a PBC fighter the Goldenboy charge was repeatedly clout chasing and put him in a fight where the loss will not put an 0 on his record. I don’t even think Oscar will let this fight happen. The goal is to give them a good reason to take the attention off the Davis fight and then kill the Pacquiao fight. It’s a strategic duck for Goldenboy.
I'm not down with that. It needs to be a real fight or nothing at all.
Are you kidding for a 22 year old with no legacy and very little resume? Hell yeah it has to be a real fight? If we start letting protected up and comers label tough fights as “exhibitions,” to preserve their record we know longer have a sport. You don’t see that coming fan boy or do you even care?
But it's a much bigger fight than Tank will ever be. He's a nobody who ducked for years after beating Pedraza.
See this is the reason why Hearn fails to promote effectively in the US. You don’t understand our market at all because you don’t realize black Americans are the nations top consumers. Stop telling the bigger US market what’s going on here because you don’t know. I am not telling you how the UK market works but I can with high accuracy predict how the US sees a UK fight. That being said AJ vs Tyson will get the Hardcore US fans but the casuals will not care?
Then he wanted a mismatch when he next fought at world level. Tank is so talented in the haters eyes that they will always be perceived as mismatches to haters. It’s a direct translation of your lack of hope. He must look other worldly to y’all? We can call that the Floyd effect. After a fighter like Floyd outclasses your favorite guy, no fight feels like it’s on his level.
Btw-Leo SantaCruz was the top fighter at 130 ( a weight class Tank had just moved up from) and actually did better than guys like Pedraza who you still speak highly of. Not to mention Leo called out Tank and was hoping to weight drain him thinking he couldn’t make 130 anymore. But some how the we hate black American boxers mind shapes this into a mismatch set up by Tank? GTFOH with that Bizzaro land BS. I am not saying you are a racist but you certainly have the same bias as one.
Who cares if morons buy his tickets for shlt shows? They have no standards.
Lol...If you believe Tank doesn’t have talent you have to be a moe-on. Tank is the highest selling guy at 135 and the only guy selling both PPV’s an Stadium tickets. You must be brain dead.
They don't even know what they're watching. Pink Power Ranger you are the last person to tell someone else they don’t know boxing. You literally sound like a visiting alien talking about the sport.
If they did, they wouldn't be anywhere near a Tank fight with the competition he picks. It's a disgrace. So you think Garcia and Haney have fought better fighters than Tank? It’s rich all these guys were on the way up and you guys try to put them right in with the killers. Nope just like the British fighters who don’t leave the island until the end of their career, these kids have a right to make money before establishing legacy. Please explain otherwise crumb cake.
He's a talented kid. But he's a coward like nearly everyone over there.Lol... not biased at all huh? Clearly you guys are stir crazy on the island. So in the US at least good fights are made some of the time. Hearn couldn’t deliver a good fight unless by accident (ex. AJ vs Ruiz), yet here everyone’s scared? Doesn’t makes sense clown. No good matchups in the UK against top contenders but some how know one is ducking anyone? Stop lying bot.
They are just cherry picking to make as much money as they can without getting hurt. You just described Hearns whole business strategy? The only company consistently making great fights is Premier Boxing Champions. Yet **** boys like you will pretend they are the ones not making the fights. Not biased at all huh.
They're not interested in legacy or legitimacy. They are frauds holding boxing up. Didn’t AJ just fight a Pulev who was last seen on a milk carton? Didn’t he avoid all the top fighters to lose to a #7 heavyweight that believes snickers is on of the four food groups? GTFOH bro!!!
Wilder's a bum. Tysons a serial cheat that Got a gift against Wallin and AJ is still the guy that took the worst beat down of the three against mediocre competition. If you really believed he was a bum you wouldn’t have to constantly bring him up even when we aren’t talking about the Heavyweights? Think you just like Wilder bro. He is always on your mind. That’s not normal.
Spence is a hype job who hasn't beaten anyone with substance. So ****** it doesn’t deserve a response power puff kid.
The only time he had that chance, was against Porter. But he lost and got a gift. Yeah it was close. But Porter yet again was hard done by just like in the Thurman fight. Now he's more known for ducking Crawford. F3ck those clowns.
Lol... You are on a troll, you deliver the opposite of Aha moments, you deliver “what the **** did dumb @ss just say moments.” Have to be the silliest guy on this whole thread. You sound like they introduced you to sight yesterday let alone boxing. It’s like you can’t yet distinguish movement. Do you see fights in shadows?
This is boxing, not run and hide and fight pointless fights to pretend you're something. That's why the sport is dying over there. Give it a chance by making the fights that matter. But if fans are going to get nothing but hope and talking about it, then they're going to leave and never come back. I don't blame them. Maybe if "Fans" all told your guys that being cowards was shameful, then you might get somewhere. But defend it like you do and project it onto the one they're ducking? They're going to see that as support to continue what they're doing and nothing changes.
Nearly every American doesn't know or care who either of these guys are. Do you even know how low the % is of people watching boxing in your country? They don't care. It's a small group and that's it. But it's getting smaller because all they see is cowards who refuse to fight who they should. Brits, Ukrainians, Russians and the Japanese don't have this problem. When they have fighters from these countries they will fight the very best when it matters. Not waste years talking shlt and waiting until one of them is done at the top level or not at all. You're dreaming if you think America as a whole gives one f3ck about any fighter in the US right now other than Garcia. But they're not boxing fans. They're 11 year olds who fancy him off Instagram. Nothing more.
AJ vs Fury has the attention of the world. That's a real international fight for undisputed. But there aren't many of those fights around. There will be more people in the UK watching AJ/Fury than the whole world combined if Tank/Garcia fight. That's just the truth.
We are here to discuss boxing not what Sickknee would like to have happen in his imaginary Harry Potter universe. Either you are legitimately delusional from all the Hearn brainwashing or you are just one disgusting human being all in to promote an acknowledged false reality for years at a time. Either way you keep losing because the reality will never align with your hope based vantage point.
Don’t get stuck in that sunken place drone. It doesn’t pay off to drive yourself insane Sidknee? Paddington Troll save yourself because there is nothing crazier than the idea that you can create your own personal delusion and somehow infect the world with it. One day you are out on the street for years having discussions with self just to maintain a delusion the world will not support. But maybe its possible to pass this on because some how Eddie Hearn has done with the UK voltron lying bots. That is some deeply disturbing voodoo bro. They must raise some of you from test tubes to have you this under control.Last edited by Fire4231; 01-29-2021, 10:52 AM.Comment
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Okay let’s wrap this up, isht is so absurd I can’t even get through it. The game is all the fighters you mentioned duck American fighters and you blame them for it not happening. Where has the dominance been in history? Where are the lack of sales created by American fighters? Who has and continues to have the biggest selling fights every year? Not the UK bro. You barely make the board unless you fight us. We are not buying it **** face!!!
We are here to discuss boxing not what Sickknee would like to have happen in his imaginary Harry Potter universe. Either you are legitimately delusional from all the Hearn brainwashing or you are just one disgusting human being all in to promote an acknowledged false reality for years at a time. Either way you keep losing because the reality will never align with your hope based vantage point.
Don’t get stuck in that sunken place drone. It doesn’t pay off to drive yourself insane Sidknee? Paddington Troll save yourself because there is nothing crazier than the idea that you can create your own personal delusion and somehow infect the world with it. One day you are out on the street for years having discussions with self just to maintain a delusion the world will not support. But maybe its possible to pass this on because some how Eddie Hearn has done with the UK voltron lying bots. That is some deeply disturbing voodoo bro. They must raise some of you from test tubes to have you this under control.
We agree that it shouldn't be an Exhibition. But you think i'm arguing the opposite? You're delusional and twisted. Your projections won't change that you freak.
A lot of Black Americans are racist so why didn't they want the White European in Lomachenko? Black Americans are the top consumers aren't they? So why did he duck the fight then? Your reply to my comment was just madness and deflection like it always is. Projections of your demonic darkness.
The Tank/Cruz fight was seen as a mismatch by everyone including the bookies. Leo was smaller and used as the sacrifice to guarantee Tank winning the fight to keep on fooling backwards people. My comment made no point on how talented Tank is or isn't. It's just more weirdo and creepy shlt from you. You twist more times than a rollercoaster. Seriously pathetic to spend your time doing all this madness though. You won't and can't change reality. Your strawman arguments and deflection are the result of how desperate and detached from reality you clearly are.
Leo was not the top fighter at 130. He fought a bum for a bogus non title. How did he leapfrog everyone else at the weight?
Leo did not call out Tank. Haymon and Tank were setting this fight up to give him his advantages like cowards do, so Leo wanted to tell the public that it was him all along that wanted the fight because he didn't have the courage to turn the fight down in front of Haymon. So he went through with it and then started with his bad acting job. Leo was now going to be used the same way he was doing to all those bums he was fighting for years. Haymon had decided it was Zombie on Zombie now to benefit one over the other.
I hate Black people do i? Take your poisonous, racist evil elsewhere and play your projection game with people dumb enough to fall for it. But please, seek the help you clearly need. This is not a game. This is just evil.
Who talked about talent when i said morons were ****** enough to buy tickets to watch Tank fight bums all the time? No one. But the straw needs to be replaced in your strawman. It's looking a bit worn out.
Only one of us comes off as an Alien. And it sure isn't me.
Another strawman with the Haney and Garcia comments when i said Tank cherry picked. Haney hasn't fought nor beaten anyone. Pleb. Garcia has 1 good win over Campbell. But who mentioned them you weirdo other than you? We're talking about Tank. No one else. Garcia hasn't been around as long as the fat lesbian so he's moving fine. Haney needs to fight someone soon, but he also hasn't been around as long as Tank.
Name these British fighters who don't leave the Island until the end of their career? No one in history has our success overseas. You have the worst. Your cowards won't even have these fights on their own soil, forget about travelling too. Plus, Americans lose nearly every time they find their balls. If they fight anyone world level, it's pretty much a guarantee you'll clean up at the Bookies if the odds are good on them.
Hearn will make the big fights if he can. But if your cowards keep on turning down massive paydays, then it doesn't happen, does it? Hearn may not have a load of fighters in his stable in the same division so he'll have to try and make those fights for his guys outside of it. That's where the problems are. PBC are world known as being f3cking jokes. But you already know that regardless of your pretence.
You can look at all the top British fighters to see the competition they take, home and abroad. Then look at your clowns. The difference is massive. Most of your guys are bauble holders with not a single good win to their name. They have plenty of losses though, even if you do rip off many people on the cards. But we know the truth. That's why it hurts you so much. That's why you have to live in the madness all the time in your asylum of a country. Failure at every turn.
What fights has Hearn refused to make? Don't even ask me for the ones Haymon doesn't make with his group of cowards. I haven't got all day and night.
AJ did fight against Pulev, yes. He was his mandatory you tit. That's why. AJ has the best 25 fight resume in Heavyweight history. Wilder has the worst 44 fight one and doesn't have a single good world class win at all. That's how pathetic that clown is. But he does suit you. He's a good representation of weirdos like you.
Wilder has admitted to ducking AJ. That's to go alongside all the mass of evidence beforehand too. AJ is now fighting Fury to get the WBC title he's been chasing for so many years. He now has that chance considering the coward Wilder can't protect and hide it any more. So who did AJ duck?
You mean Fury is a cheat in your fantasy world where you expose how f3cking deranged you all are? Your evil can be seen, ******. Your country is being laughed at.
AJ made a mistake in the first Ruiz fight that he's now reversed when he dominated him to get back what was his. Wilder is the one who took the biggest beating in the Fury rematch. So that's twice now Fury has slapped that clown good and proper. AJ and Fury are now fighting for undisputed as they're world class. Unlike Wilder and most of the jokes you have over there.
You're the one who mentioned Wilder first, but nice projection again, weirdo.
I don't think you're a troll. Most Americans have your behavioural patterns as the internet can clearly show. But if you are, there is no way to distinguish between the two. That's how f3cked up your asylum of a country is. And they mean what they write, even if a few that are trolls do not.Comment
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You like to post your comments within my post to try and hide by playing slight of hand, don't you? Silly weirdo. But please try harder...
Bro I hate answering you period. It’s mind numbing to respond to nonsensical brain activity. However this point needs to be made. You are the vehicle to make it.
We agree that it shouldn't be an Exhibition. But you think i'm arguing the opposite? You're delusional and twisted. Your projections won't change that you freak. Doesn’t matter as I stated the fight is not happening. It became a real fight according to Ryan and next thing you know the fight wasn’t happening. I told you it was a clout chase to duck Gervontae. Goldenboy only has Ryan, they aren’t going to put him in a tough fight as he keeps the company afloat.
A lot of Black Americans are racist so why didn't they want the White European in Lomachenko?what you know about black Americans? Shut up pink Ranger. Not that I speak for all the diversity that is black America but wanted to see Davis, Haney, Gary Russell Jr, and Mikey Garcia fight Loma. The only thing I didn’t like is Rigondeaux moving up two weight classes to fight him. Stop lying trash.
Black Americans are the top consumers aren't they? So why did he duck the fight then? There seems to be a fallacy in logic here. Why are the to connected and who is even ducking whom here? This is why I hate responding to your emotional bs.
Your reply to my comment was just madness and deflection like it always is. Projections of your demonic darkness. LMAO...WTF?
The Tank/Cruz fight was seen as a mismatch by everyone including the bookies.
Yeah because Davis had no problem making weight and is an exceptional fighter. But put Santa Cruz in there with Crolla and Leo would like a beast. Not to mention Leo was the whole champion at 130 clown.
Leo was smaller and used as the sacrifice to guarantee Tank winning the fight to keep on fooling backwards people. Shut up ******, it was revenue producing PPV. What was Crolla then? Six losses and he wasn’t even a draw or champion. Show me your anger.
My comment made no point on how talented Tank is or isn't. It's just more weirdo and creepy shlt from you. Huh? WTF- why did I respond to this idiot.
You twist more times than a rollercoaster. Lol...Yeah and you switch like a train track pink ranger.
Seriously pathetic to spend your time doing all this madness though. You won't and can't change reality. Your strawman arguments and deflection are the result of how desperate and detached from reality you clearly are.
Done... bro more emotional conjecture without foundation or factual support. Sorry this is all you get kidnee bean. Your brain needs to be studied for proper placement on the evolutionary time line. Here is a hint, we would need to go into the past 80 million years to find your equivalent.
Leo was not the top fighter at 130. He fought a bum for a bogus non title. How did he leapfrog everyone else at the weight?
Leo did not call out Tank. Haymon and Tank were setting this fight up to give him his advantages like cowards do, so Leo wanted to tell the public that it was him all along that wanted the fight because he didn't have the courage to turn the fight down in front of Haymon. So he went through with it and then started with his bad acting job. Leo was now going to be used the same way he was doing to all those bums he was fighting for years. Haymon had decided it was Zombie on Zombie now to benefit one over the other.
I hate Black people do i? Take your poisonous, racist evil elsewhere and play your projection game with people dumb enough to fall for it. But please, seek the help you clearly need. This is not a game. This is just evil.
Who talked about talent when i said morons were ****** enough to buy tickets to watch Tank fight bums all the time? No one. But the straw needs to be replaced in your strawman. It's looking a bit worn out.
Only one of us comes off as an Alien. And it sure isn't me.
Another strawman with the Haney and Garcia comments when i said Tank cherry picked. Haney hasn't fought nor beaten anyone. Pleb. Garcia has 1 good win over Campbell. But who mentioned them you weirdo other than you? We're talking about Tank. No one else. Garcia hasn't been around as long as the fat lesbian so he's moving fine. Haney needs to fight someone soon, but he also hasn't been around as long as Tank.
Name these British fighters who don't leave the Island until the end of their career? No one in history has our success overseas. You have the worst. Your cowards won't even have these fights on their own soil, forget about travelling too. Plus, Americans lose nearly every time they find their balls. If they fight anyone world level, it's pretty much a guarantee you'll clean up at the Bookies if the odds are good on them.
Hearn will make the big fights if he can. But if your cowards keep on turning down massive paydays, then it doesn't happen, does it? Hearn may not have a load of fighters in his stable in the same division so he'll have to try and make those fights for his guys outside of it. That's where the problems are. PBC are world known as being f3cking jokes. But you already know that regardless of your pretence.
You can look at all the top British fighters to see the competition they take, home and abroad. Then look at your clowns. The difference is massive. Most of your guys are bauble holders with not a single good win to their name. They have plenty of losses though, even if you do rip off many people on the cards. But we know the truth. That's why it hurts you so much. That's why you have to live in the madness all the time in your asylum of a country. Failure at every turn.
What fights has Hearn refused to make? Don't even ask me for the ones Haymon doesn't make with his group of cowards. I haven't got all day and night.
AJ did fight against Pulev, yes. He was his mandatory you tit. That's why. AJ has the best 25 fight resume in Heavyweight history. Wilder has the worst 44 fight one and doesn't have a single good world class win at all. That's how pathetic that clown is. But he does suit you. He's a good representation of weirdos like you.
Wilder has admitted to ducking AJ. That's to go alongside all the mass of evidence beforehand too. AJ is now fighting Fury to get the WBC title he's been chasing for so many years. He now has that chance considering the coward Wilder can't protect and hide it any more. So who did AJ duck?
You mean Fury is a cheat in your fantasy world where you expose how f3cking deranged you all are? Your evil can be seen, ******. Your country is being laughed at.
AJ made a mistake in the first Ruiz fight that he's now reversed when he dominated him to get back what was his. Wilder is the one who took the biggest beating in the Fury rematch. So that's twice now Fury has slapped that clown good and proper. AJ and Fury are now fighting for undisputed as they're world class. Unlike Wilder and most of the jokes you have over there.
You're the one who mentioned Wilder first, but nice projection again, weirdo.
I don't think you're a troll. Most Americans have your behavioural patterns as the internet can clearly show. But if you are, there is no way to distinguish between the two. That's how f3cked up your asylum of a country is. And they mean what they write, even if a few that are trolls do not.Last edited by Fire4231; 02-01-2021, 04:09 PM.Comment
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Nice deflection like always, hey?
Don't worry, your "Answers" to straight questions make no sense anyway. Your insanity and creepiness see to that.
"Pink Ranger"??
Is "White Devil" and "DECAF" out of fashion already? Oh, i'll make a note of it. It's hard to keep up with the constant switch of racial comments from the backwards people.Comment
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Nice deflection like always, hey?
Don't worry, your "Answers" to straight questions make no sense anyway. Your insanity and creepiness see to that.
"Pink Ranger"??
Is "White Devil" and "DECAF" out of fashion already? Oh, i'll make a note of it. It's hard to keep up with the constant switch of racial comments from the backwards people.
However if you decided to call yourself a white Devil that is your decision. I simply don’t believe in such things. Take care, mental health is a good thing, moving on from this brain drain.Comment
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You waisted enough of my time and energy Pink Ranger. Clearly they don’t show the Power Rangers in Great Britain.
However if you decided to call yourself a white Devil that is your decision. I simply don’t believe in such things. Take care, mental health is a good thing, moving on from this brain drain.
It was a rhetorical question, ******.
Nah, White Devil is a bit old these days. We'll stick with the "Pink Ranger" racial slur. It's a bit more up to date.Comment
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