Manny Pacquiao vs Ryan Garcia NO Longer An Exhibition

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  • Lance98
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    #91
    Cowardly pacquiao should be fighting crawford or spence, and queen ryan should be fighting tank(after calling him out), devin haney or teofimo. This fight doesn't make any sense, and to even consider it an exhibition initially shows poor planning and mockery of the sport as 2 fighters are still active.

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      #92
      Originally posted by MPDKSAB
      Smh I thoughtu woulda had a better argument than this. Let me explain the difference between what Floyd did & this.

      1st I think we all can agree at the Berto stage & the stage that Pac is at now they've earned the right to decide who they want to fight. (The "BUT" is coming later)

      Do I think Canelo was the toughest test Floyd could've taken at the time? No BUT Canelo was definitely in the conversation! People be re-writing history about that fight like a MF. & I'm going to chalk this up due to Canelo's fan base which lies like crazy for him. Because of his economic value Canelo has more eyes on him & he naturally has more fans. So when you have a lot of people saying the same thing over & over it becomes the narrative even if it's not true.

      Now let's get into it: Canelo was an undefeated unified champion on the P4P list people love so much, with 1 less professional fight than Floyd. "They" say Floyd had more "experience", well why Mosley & Cotto ain't beat Canelo? Floyd & Canelo fought close to the weight Canelo was champion in & that was Floyds 5th highest weight class in his career. I want to shout out Teddy Atlas for saying in summary what I'm saying now in detail: Nobody was saying Canelo was too young until AFTER HE LOST. This is the same guy who said he was "born ready" at the weigh in that people are making excuses for afterwards. Going into the fight Floyd was taking a fight he was expected to win but very well COULD LOSE. People say "Floyd never passed the torch" to any fighter like he never gave fighters their opportunity at greatness. If you look at boxing history IF dudes will even fight a young lion like Canelo they lose. (I.e. SRL, Norris; DLH, Chavez) Them odds was closer than Loma & Lopez on both sides! Floyd was 36.. THIRTY SIX! He's an anamoly & people just don't wanna give him his credit. He deserves all the credit for fighting Canelo when he did at both their ages. This fight can't even be compared to the other two. Let me say this to end as well: Hatton, Ortiz, Guerrero, & Berto didn't improve after Floyd beat them so what was the guarantee Canelo was going to become the improved fighter he is today?

      Was I happy about Floyd & Berto? No, but did I kill him for it? Absolutely not. He let one of his straps go so others can fight for it. If he didn't earn the right to fight who he wanted before Canelo, 38 Y.O. Floyd damn sure did by the time he fought Berto. After everything he did in his career, being under appreciated, how can I really feel a way about his last fight being vs Berto who's at least a professional boxer in his weight class (in which I'm sure Floyd himself actually thought he was finally retired at the time.) It ain't even like he took the fight for money either lol, I think he did it just to complete his Showtime contract & retire.

      With McGregor why would I even be mad at that at all? That whole year was magical for boxing. But specifically to that fight he was retired for nearly 2 years & made one of the biggest fights in combat sports history. & he wasn't holding up any belts or careers in the process. Put more eyes on the sport, gave some of his fighters an even bigger platform to fight on.

      Is Ryan as accomplished as Canelo was when he fought Floyd? Shìt McGregor wasn't a boxer but he was still a 2 division champion. Was he as experienced as Berto? Was he already acclimated to the weight like him? Did Floyd try to go for a straight cash grab in boxing vs a guy who never became a champion in boxing? Never fought outside the weight class in his career. Did Floyd hold up any world titles when he did his circus fight? Was their ever talk of fighting another "active" boxer in an exibition? Lol I don't think I ever seen a young boxer in their prime do anything like this.

      My problem ain't even the fight mainly. It's Pacquiao babysitting the WBA & Ryan using other ppl name with his diva tactics. If the title is on the line that may be even worse tho. I am a lil bothered by his ducking tho I'm not gonna lie. It's kinda crazy a guy doesn't have to win anything at all to fight Manny tho. He's literally just popular...Do we blame the leader, the follower, or social media....Or the one who leads the followers on social media?
      I appreciate the detailed reply my friend, but as you said earlier, I really don't care enough to have a real discussion about all of this. I said my piece on it earlier really in my last couple of comments.

      I have been very surprised to see serious backlash from NSB about this fight. Just didn't think it would have that type of pushback. Floyd fans being upset about it, I mean idk I don't really get it and it is very surprising, but there's a lot I don't really understand in this world so I won't dwell on it.

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      • BodyBagz
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        #93
        Pac being Pac and his demented fan base loves him.

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        • JakeTheBoxer
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          #94
          It is a good fight, actually.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Lance98
            Cowardly pacquiao should be fighting crawford or spence, and queen ryan should be fighting tank(after calling him out), devin haney or teofimo. This fight doesn't make any sense, and to even consider it an exhibition initially shows poor planning and mockery of the sport as 2 fighters are still active.
            After spending the last 10 years ''fighting'' the likes of Clottey, Rios, Margarito, Lucas, Broner, Vargas, Horn ( ), Bradley 3x, Algieri......Pac needs a cherry pick. He went through hell as a WW !

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            • Scopedog
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              #96
              Still a pointless and ridiculous fight

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              • Queen_Leia
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                #97
                He said they are finalizing stuff this week and opponent will be announce sunday. He mentioned if it’s ryan garcia “exhibition lang yan” which means it’ll just be exhibition. And he laughed because ryan is 22 years old like pacquiao son, and him being like a proffesor to a student because of the age difference.

                He also said that the fight with crawford and spence is still possible. Maybe after this exhibition fight. Pacquiao will announce the next opponent on sunday.

                The link of the interview



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                • Roadblock
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Queen_Leia
                  He said they are finalizing stuff this week and opponent will be announce sunday. He mentioned if it’s ryan garcia “exhibition lang yan” which means it’ll just be exhibition. And he laughed because ryan is 22 years old like pacquiao son, and him being like a proffesor to a student because of the age difference.

                  He also said that the fight with crawford and spence is still possible. Maybe after this exhibition fight. Pacquiao will announce the next opponent on sunday.

                  The link of the interview



                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XlI...ature=emb_logo
                  Are so the fight with Spence and Crawford after I fight a total BS should never happen fight, but but I will still keep talking about the other 2 till next time .

                  How do you guys fall for this sht honestly, Manny been running this scam for years.

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                  • Cobratu
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                    #99
                    I love it

                    Win or lose Ryan is setting himself up to run this sport once canelo is done. I like this fight if they can get Pac at 140 I can see Ryan catching him with that hook.

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                    • Cobratu
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by BodyBagz
                      After spending the last 10 years ''fighting'' the likes of Clottey, Rios, Margarito, Lucas, Broner, Vargas, Horn ( ), Bradley 3x, Algieri......Pac needs a cherry pick. He went through hell as a WW !
                      Lol

                      Dude you’re girl must have been gang****** by a buncha Filipinos cuz the hate you have for Manny is unhealthy.

                      I honestly don’t think even the hardcore manny fans here care about him as much as you do you’re literally obsessed over the guy you can’t go a day without talking about him that shows me you’re hate is straight up personal lol

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