Mike Tyson Does Not Regard Floyd Mayweather As 'The GOAT'

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  • MPDKSAB
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    #21
    Originally posted by NearHypnos
    Yes. Wtf lmao. Kell was legit as all f uck when he won the title.

    Floyd was far from his best in 2015 but Kell would have been a better fight than almost anyone - some may even argue Pacquiao. Def better than Maidana and Berto.

    It’s not like the division and the other top guys were cleaned out because they were not. Thurman was the interim champ for like a few years and a good amount of fights lmao.

    You can’t just conveniently forget that there were legitimate talks of how Thurman was ducked and Kell was a real player as well.

    Def don’t get “benefit of the doubt” undisputed status. Gotta win that s hit
    This dude said better than Pacquiao. I don't even have words.. & Brook def wouldn't have been better than Maidana. Is Brook better than Maidana? I'd say so, but Kell wouldn't have gave him the fight Maidana did cause styles make fights. Kell Brook has fought 1 way his entire career & it's not any way that would give Floyd trouble. Dude beat Canelo 2 years earlier & you acting like Kell Brook woulda had the chance to win that Canelo didn't. 😭😭

    Ducked or not I don't even care. When you been watching boxing for a certain amount of time you don't need to see every fight to know what would happen. Just like you can be maneuvered into a winnable championship fight you can be maneuvered to be Undisputed. I don't need to see him fight Indongo, Postol & whoever Else Bud beat to know Floyd woulda did the same. Obviously he wasn't Undisputed but nobody that knows anything about boxing would believe that Brook or Thurman could do anything with him even at that age. But you tryna pretend we the real boxing fans don't know what woulda happened. Smh. We not even gonna talk about how Floyd beating Pacquiao is way more impressive than everybody Tyson beat to get his belts! Smh this shìt is sad.
    Originally posted by MONGOOSE66
    U don’t think he makes a damn good point about Chaves and Robinson?
    I addressed that in the 1st part of my post. Tyson talking about the 50 & shìt like Floyd ever really cared about that. The number he really cared about was that other number in the loss column: 0. There's ppl with other records similar to 50-0 but people rarely if ever say anything about it cause it don't hold no weight. But they know Floyd's does.

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    • MONGOOSE66
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      #22
      Originally posted by MPDKSAB
      This dude said better than Pacquiao. I don't even have words.. & Brook def wouldn't have been better than Maidana. Is Brook better than Maidana? I'd say so, but Kell wouldn't have gave him the fight Maidana did cause styles make fights. Kell Brook has fought 1 way his entire career & it's not any way that would give Floyd trouble. Dude beat Canelo 2 years earlier & you acting like Kell Brook woulda had the chance to win that Canelo didn't. 😭😭

      Ducked or not I don't even care. When you been watching boxing for a certain amount of time you don't need to see every fight to know what would happen. Just like you can be maneuvered into a winnable championship fight you can be maneuvered to be Undisputed. I don't need to see him fight Indongo, Postol & whoever Else Bud beat to know Floyd woulda did the same. Obviously he wasn't Undisputed but nobody that knows anything about boxing would believe that Brook or Thurman could do anything with him even at that age. But you tryna pretend we the real boxing fans don't know what woulda happened. Smh. We not even gonna talk about how Floyd beating Pacquiao is way more impressive than everybody Tyson beat to get his belts! Smh this shìt is sad.

      I addressed that in the 1st part of my post. Tyson talking about the 50 & shìt like Floyd ever really cared about that. The number he really cared about was that other number in the loss column: 0. There's ppl with other records similar to 50-0 but people rarely if ever say anything about it cause it don't hold no weight. But they know Floyd's does.
      Unless your an idiot. People pretty much KNow what time it is when it comes to Mayweather. He was a tremendous boxer but he obviously played it safe. U can’t undo that. It is what it is. U don’t have to like it. That’s ok.
      Can we move on shall we?

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      • Marchegiano
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        #23
        No one regards Mike Tyson as the GOAT

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        • elfag
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          #24
          floyd has a legitimate claim

          even if you dont think he is goat, he is atleast top 5

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          • NearHypnos
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            #25
            Originally posted by MPDKSAB
            This dude said better than Pacquiao. I don't even have words.. & Brook def wouldn't have been better than Maidana. Is Brook better than Maidana? I'd say so, but Kell wouldn't have gave him the fight Maidana did cause styles make fights. Kell Brook has fought 1 way his entire career & it's not any way that would give Floyd trouble. Dude beat Canelo 2 years earlier & you acting like Kell Brook woulda had the chance to win that Canelo didn't. 😭😭

            Ducked or not I don't even care. When you been watching boxing for a certain amount of time you don't need to see every fight to know what would happen. Just like you can be maneuvered into a winnable championship fight you can be maneuvered to be Undisputed. I don't need to see him fight Indongo, Postol & whoever Else Bud beat to know Floyd woulda did the same. Obviously he wasn't Undisputed but nobody that knows anything about boxing would believe that Brook or Thurman could do anything with him even at that age. But you tryna pretend we the real boxing fans don't know what woulda happened. Smh. We not even gonna talk about how Floyd beating Pacquiao is way more impressive than everybody Tyson beat to get his belts! Smh this shìt is sad.

            I addressed that in the 1st part of my post. Tyson talking about the 50 & shìt like Floyd ever really cared about that. The number he really cared about was that other number in the loss column: 0. There's ppl with other records similar to 50-0 but people rarely if ever say anything about it cause it don't hold no weight. But they know Floyd's does.

            You think Pacquiao had a chance against Floyd? Because everyone who knew anything about boxing knew that he didn’t, much less after watching him get sparked by JMM (or less if you even had any idea what you’re watching)

            Pacquiao didn’t stand a chance at *any* point in his career, much less as time went by. Bob Arum may have told you so, but that was a lie. Like you say, styles make fights and Pacquiao has never been good enough to beat Floyd.

            That fight was so one sided that I’d honestly (never even thought of this mind you) can’t see how Kell Brook woulda done worse. Pac did even worse than Canelo.... No one is saying Kell Brook beats Floyd or the Thurman of five years ago or Spence; etc etc. What I’m saying is you don’t get a pretend or hypothetical win.

            If you think Pac woulda wiped out Brook if they fought in 2015, you’re delusional. Brook wasnt Algieri and Brandon Rios, he would have been close to the biggest man he’d have faced and up there in the skill department. I wouldn’t put money on Brook....but I definitely wouldn’t put any on Pac either. We all love Pacquiao but you’re fooling yourself into thinking there werent other legitimate fighters Floyd could have possibly fought at that particular time as well. None we wanted to see as bad of course, but I woudn’t dare make the argument that Floyd should have been undisputed in fights that at that time could have definitely been really hard fights for him in comparison.

            You dont hypothetical and fantasy win your way into an undisputed status. That’s gotta be the most Floyd Mayweather s hit I’ve ever heard. Ever. Lmao. “I have reason to believe he’d win so he should just get the title by default. Dont bother fighting.” De f uck lmao

            In any given division there often seems to be a standout who thanks to politics and selective matchmaking doesnt make it happen. We dont ever call them undisputed just because they potentially would be.

            You can sit down, get a feeding tube put in and watch all the boxing your life span allows and even develop some weird ability to know who wins... You still have to fight and get that win.

            Maybe you give Floyd Thurman and Brook wins and count him as undisputed, but reality doesn’t. Maidana only gave him trouble because that’s not the Floyd who was 30 years old.
            Sure, a styles clash as well, but that didn’t help Maidana any in the rematch. There’s a reason he chose Chino and Berto over the young guys. Don’t have to be a hater to call selective matchmaking selective. It doesn’t make Floyd any less of a fighter.

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            • FinitoxDinamita
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              #26
              Floyd is the richest boxer of all time and id rather be in his shoes than Tyson’s so...

              Tyson never liked Floyd lol

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                #27
                Originally posted by LeOoze
                castillo, canelo, hatton, marquez (who arguably beat pac all 4 times), pac himself, maidana >>> pac resume easily lol...
                cherrypickers cannot be GOAT.. easy.

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