Can Monte Barrett beat Nicolay Valuev?

[guru]

Because Floyd is too good and dominates his opponents is no reason to take him off the p4p list.
He is number one, its simple.
Anyone who cant see that must be biased or ignorant.

thats not my reason.... my reason is that everyone's he fought for the past 3 years was a HUGE underdog...i'm tired of him SELECTING mismatches... nobody made him fight gatti, mitchell or zab, he CHOSE to fight those mismatches... I'm not biased or ignorant, just tired of his charade...

[Easy-E]

thats not my reason.... my reason is that everyone's he fought for the past 3 years was a HUGE underdog...i'm tired of him SELECTING mismatches... nobody made him fight gatti, mitchell or zab, he CHOSE to fight those mismatches... I'm not biased or ignorant, just tired of his charade...

Hes fought some of the best fighters in the division, and been ducked by the best.
Gatti was a huge fight for his career, mitchell was his first fight at 147 and Zab is a dangerous opponent everytime.
Now hes fighting the linear champion and you still are on "Floydcott."
Your definitly biased.

[guru]

Hes fought some of the best fighters in the division, and been ducked by the best.
Gatti was a huge fight for his career, mitchell was his first fight at 147 and Zab is a dangerous opponent everytime.
Now hes fighting the linear champion and you still are on "Floydcott."
Your definitly biased.

gatti being a huge fight is your opinion... IMO, gatti, mitchell zab had little chance to beat him and therefore 3 years of fighting guys that were long shots... i don't hate PBF, hell, i think P4P he would beat RJJ cause he's better technically... BUT my floydcott is about his lack of opposition not his ability...

[Leo Pradun]

Some people are just ignorant who arnt worth bothering with.

And Yes, anyone who has seen Barret fight knows he CAN beat Valuev.

are u on drugs, dude seriously....

[Leo Pradun]

damn guys this isnt a floy thread this a thread bout valuev-barret, calm down...

[Easy-E]

are u on drugs, dude seriously....

Barret is a skillful fighter.
I think Valuev will knock him out, but its not out of the question for Barret to win.
Who thought Douglass would beat Tyson?
Anyone who says a fighter has no shot to beat another fighter is a ****ing moron.

[Hitman932]

barrett was chosen cause he will be a good sport and lose the fight, just like the rahman fight, he is don kings errand boy and he wouldnt even dream of derailing don kings undefeated gravy train

[vB Martin]

gatti being a huge fight is your opinion... IMO, gatti, mitchell zab had little chance to beat him and therefore 3 years of fighting guys that were long shots... i don't hate PBF, hell, i think P4P he would beat RJJ cause he's better technically... BUT my floydcott is about his lack of opposition not his ability...

I'm not a big fan of Mayweather, but the Judah fight was a good matchup in terms of skill and speed. Judah had at least a chance.

As far as Gatti, it was a HUGE mismatch, but it was a big fight in trms of making Mayweather a more recognizable name which s something he has struggled with, at least partly due to his choices of opponents. I can understand him wanting to make this fight from that aspect since Gatti is/was a highly popular fighter to the most casual of boxing fans.

Mitchell was well past his prime, but also a recognizable name in boxing, so in terms of getting his name out there, this also made sense.

I think that Baldomir is a huge mismatch as well, but he's the linear champion, so it's a fight tha should be made. Also, Baldomir is tough as nails. While Floyd will likely outland him 3-1, he will be there the entire fight, forcing Floyd to throwmore punches than he's used to. Baldomir stands a mch btterchance of winning than either Mitchell or Gatti did.

I think that thoughts on Floyd should now be put on hold to see what he does after the Baldomir fight. If he continues to handpick lesser opposition then he doesn't deserve the recognition. His biggest problem is that he's so talented finding opposition that isn't lesser may be a problem for him. Perhaps he's just a victim of his own skill.

[Nautilus]

Some of us think Valuev has already lost - to Ruiz and/or to Larry Donald, but his record is still clean.

Monte Barrett's effort against Joe Mesi was too late, his KO of Owen Beck looked less impressive as Beck looked bad against Ray Austin and Valuev, and his win over Dominick Guinn lost its luster as Guinn went 2-3-1 in his next 6...

But a lot of people will agree with me that Valuev is very beatable by a competent Top 10 heavyweight. The Barrett that fought Rahman probably can't win the WBA title fight Oct. 7, but he can be better than that.

Who thinks Barrett can beat Valuev and if you were his trainer how would you try to go about it?

it depends on what Valuev shows up... the current or the previous version

the current version, that has the money to properly train and hire decent sparring partners, will beat Barrett with a high probability

the previous version, that had little money and no sparring partners, will fight a boring fight with Barrett; and it will be a coin flip who wins

[psychopath]

Some of us think Valuev has already lost - to Ruiz and/or to Larry Donald, but his record is still clean.

Monte Barrett's effort against Joe Mesi was too late, his KO of Owen Beck looked less impressive as Beck looked bad against Ray Austin and Valuev, and his win over Dominick Guinn lost its luster as Guinn went 2-3-1 in his next 6...

But a lot of people will agree with me that Valuev is very beatable by a competent Top 10 heavyweight. The Barrett that fought Rahman probably can't win the WBA title fight Oct. 7, but he can be better than that.

Who thinks Barrett can beat Valuev and if you were his trainer how would you try to go about it?

Valuev is very much beatable but I don't believe Barret can.

Look at Barrets last 11 fights record.
He lost to WLAD via 7th round TKO. After that he raked up 6 wins 2 tkos; 2 UDs and 2 split decission against mediocre fighters. Then he lost to Joe Messi via majority decission. Then he got a split decission against Dominic Guinn, then anothet TKO win against Owen Beck. After that a majority decission LOSS against Rahman.

It's not impressive at all. So Barret is just another lamb being fed to the lion.