Why isn’t hair follicle testing the standard in boxing?

[Beercules]

I looked up hair follicle tests cost and it seems very cheap in comparison to VADA tests or blood an urine testing!

Where have you seen other prices for hair follicle tests?

I agree with what you said about everything else!

I haven't looked up the cost of that testing but I thought it would be more expensive.




Still, these people (promoters) will lose too much with these fighters

[Squ□redCircle34]

They had mentioned during the Canelo/Clen saga that hair follicle testing didn't work on certain hair types. Ironically, red hair was one of them.

Not defending Canelo at all but where have you read that at?

I found that they do need a certain amount to make it work effectively but never seen a hair type being a problem.

[Floyd is TBE]

That **** unreliable. Dudes been watching too much Forensic Files.

[Squ□redCircle34]

I haven't looked up the cost of that testing but I thought it would be more expensive.




Still, these people (promoters) will lose too much with these fighters

So we can all agree that everyone in boxing knows likely someone is on something and is looking to get some type of advantage even if the chances are slim!

[Beercules]

So we can all agree that everyone in boxing knows likely someone is on something and is looking to get some type of advantage even if the chances are slim!

Pretty much this ^

[_Rexy_]

Not defending Canelo at all but where have you read that at?

I found that they do need a certain amount to make it work effectively but never seen a hair type being a problem.

Don't remember the exact place I read it, but Ring Magazine mentioned it, which is why they stripped him even with the negative hair follicle test.

[Citizen Koba]

They had mentioned during the Canelo/Clen saga that hair follicle testing didn't work on certain hair types. Ironically, red hair was one of them.

Clenbuterol is detectible in hair cos it bonds to melanin which there's obviously more of in darker hair than lighter hair so dark haired folk will tend to show up with higher concentrations in the hair strand. Thing is whilst the shades of blond and dark hairs are defined by the concentration of eumelanin it turns out that redheads and gingers are actually kinda mutants and have a different type of melenin altogether known as pheomelanin. Since redheads are kinda rare and research into Clen ain'r exactly a massive thing there simply hasn't been enough samples to know what kinda concentrations would be expected from different intakes of Clen in redheads... in fact there ain't really much consensus even on blond hair types which can sometimes produce a negative at dosage levels which would give a positive in darker hair. Research is ongoing though... that was the state of play a coupla years back so maybe they got something better now,

[Luilun]

I’m just here to make you think, if the testing in today’s boxing has improved, what does that say about the drug testing of back then or if there was even testing during the 40’s and 50’s!?

Shane Mosley is a perfect example of someone who never got caught but admitted he took PED’s, so if Shane never got caught then how many other fighters in the past and present an possibly future will never be caught but was on some PED?

We all know the testing should be 365 as long as a fighter is active, with how dangerous the sport is and how the commission an sanctioning bodies are paid in full, how come what some may consider the most rigorous an elite drug testing the hair follicle tests not enforced as the standard in boxing?

Should hair follicle tests be the standard?

Is it too expensive to do? And if so how much does a hair follicle test cost since the test picks up any contamination several months to near a year?!

Just have a Doctor check testosterone level test which is cheaper and check for testicle shrinkage .

[TonyGe]

I’m just here to make you think, if the testing in today’s boxing has improved, what does that say about the drug testing of back then or if there was even testing during the 40’s and 50’s!?

Shane Mosley is a perfect example of someone who never got caught but admitted he took PED’s, so if Shane never got caught then how many other fighters in the past and present an possibly future will never be caught but was on some PED?

We all know the testing should be 365 as long as a fighter is active, with how dangerous the sport is and how the commission an sanctioning bodies are paid in full, how come what some may consider the most rigorous an elite drug testing the hair follicle tests not enforced as the standard in boxing?

Should hair follicle tests be the standard?

Is it too expensive to do? And if so how much does a hair follicle test cost since the test picks up any contamination several months to near a year?!

Apparently it's not reliable enough. The drugs get concentrated by different amounts in the hair according to the hair color of the person. Two people taking the same amount of a banned drug can have very differerent concentration in their hair.

[Thuglife Nelo]

lol @ Tyson Fury

But it’s a serious question due to the fact that VADA/WADA/USADA all have had problems catching fighters at one point and another and they all have cut off dates unless you specifically sign up
for 365 but then you have to pay out of pocket which is mad expensive!

I just saw that VADA tests costs generally $2,2500 an with combat sports its between $7,500 to $11,000 which with a fighter having to give their cut to their promoter, manager(s), trainer, S&C coach?, nutritionist?, sparring partners, then Uncle Sam, I can see why in a poor mans sport such as boxing that some fighters refuse it for those circumstances alone especially if they already don’t make much!

Hair follicle tests I read up on can detect much farther contaminations than blood or urine and it seems even cheaper which is why I asked why isn’t it the standard!

WADA doesn’t do testing. They’re the HN’sIC for the standards and the banned list.