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  • Califire209
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    #21
    After Wilder KO's Fury in the trilogy, Joshua better have the same energy about Unifying the titles. But Guess what the Fight will be in America Buahahaha

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    • alexjust
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      #22
      Originally posted by Silver Spear
      One of the scenarios mentioned in the article was that Usyk allow Joshua and Fury fight for the WBO belt (along with the other belts) and immediately whoever wins relinquishes it then Usyk can fight for the vacant WBO belt as soon as a week after.

      The problem I have with one of your scenarios is that Usyk has no claim or does not deserve to fight for all the belts. He is only the WBO mandatory. He is not the undisputed champs mandatory.
      There is no such thing as undisputed Champs mandatory. It's just the stars aligned in a way that right now if he fights for WBO he fights for most of the belts. Its a rare opportunity in itself. Whether he deserves this in some purist boxing logic is irrelevant. Stepping aside would also mean he loses his payday with AJ. AJ relinquishing the belt would probably mean a fight with Joe Joyce. Very risky and for much less money. Whether fight AJ with Fury happens is unknown. If it doesn't and Usy took a step aside money, he will regret it. If I were him, I'd push for his shot as at worst he will force AJ to relinquish the belt and fight Joyce for it. He is unlikely to miss his chance to fight for the WBO belt if he doesn't step aside. But if he does, then his chances actually decrease.

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      • Angeljuice
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        #23
        Originally posted by 5000boxing
        Lmao.. Wilder is about to brutally destroy Fury.. Or Fury will retire and go to wwe as a dehydrated Andre the giant! Attention AJ and all his fans.. "Wilder is coming for you." Go ahead and handle Usyk and we will handle Fury then we can pick back up where we left off.. 50/50 punk!! The same 50 you offered Fury! We want that! This is judgement day for AJ!!
        Oh no, not the mighty Wilder. I heard he's fought 4 top 20 boxers in his career, so he must be good. In fact he has fought 11 fighters in the top 100, that is super scary.

        The man is so terrifying he's taken out 28 men that are unranked or ranked below 400.

        All AJ has done is beat the former decade dominant Klitschko (avoided by Wilder for years), beat Parker for his belt (avoided by Wilder) and fought more highly ranked opponents than Fury and Wilder combined.

        Wilder is a joke. I'm sorry you didn't get the punchline, the punchline is *he's an ex Champion who's only fought one decent boxer in his entire career and lost to him twice*.

        When you know the punchline, the joke (Wilder is coming for you) doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

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        • Angeljuice
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          #24
          Originally posted by Califire209
          After Wilder KO's Fury in the trilogy, Joshua better have the same energy about Unifying the titles. But Guess what the Fight will be in America Buahahaha
          Wilder cant beat Fury, he couldn't even beat him off.

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          • Califire209
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            #25
            Originally posted by Angeljuice
            Wilder cant beat Fury, he couldn't even beat him off.
            But YOU definitely have dreams of Beating off Fury,, U on the wrong forum weirdo

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            • NYG
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              #26
              Originally posted by 5000boxing
              What Americans? South Americans? Every fighter knows who the threat in the division is.. America knows it.. And You do too! Which is why u get so butthurt anytime some mentions Wilder.
              You're a ****ing idiot. Learn the sport before you open your ****sucker

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              • Monty Fisto
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                #27
                Originally posted by alexjust
                There is no such thing as undisputed Champs mandatory. It's just the stars aligned in a way that right now if he fights for WBO he fights for most of the belts. Its a rare opportunity in itself. Whether he deserves this in some purist boxing logic is irrelevant. Stepping aside would also mean he loses his payday with AJ. AJ relinquishing the belt would probably mean a fight with Joe Joyce. Very risky and for much less money. Whether fight AJ with Fury happens is unknown. If it doesn't and Usy took a step aside money, he will regret it. If I were him, I'd push for his shot as at worst he will force AJ to relinquish the belt and fight Joyce for it. He is unlikely to miss his chance to fight for the WBO belt if he doesn't step aside. But if he does, then his chances actually decrease.
                Your logic is faulty. It's probably been explained to him by Hearn that if he refuses to step aside, the Joshua-Fury fight will go ahead regardless.

                The outcome: Usyk gets his shot vs Joyce for unexciting money.

                His other choices:

                1. He takes the step aside money and they relinquish the belt immediately after the fight. He gets his shot vs Joyce for unexciting money. So he now has step aside money on top of the outcome above.

                2. He takes the step aside money and agrees to wait for the rematch and face the winner for all the baubles and big money.


                Clearly the two step aside options are more attractive than trying to force the issue.

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                • Bain01D
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by 5000boxing
                  Hahaha.. Nice to meet you Major Troll. I'm 5000 boxing. It's always nice to meet a fan.. Take care
                  What makes you think Wilder will destroy Fury when he could do it over the past 19 rounds and got his arse handed to him in the last 7???

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                  • Silver Spear
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by alexjust
                    There is no such thing as undisputed Champs mandatory. It's just the stars aligned in a way that right now if he fights for WBO he fights for most of the belts. Its a rare opportunity in itself. Whether he deserves this in some purist boxing logic is irrelevant. Stepping aside would also mean he loses his payday with AJ. AJ relinquishing the belt would probably mean a fight with Joe Joyce. Very risky and for much less money. Whether fight AJ with Fury happens is unknown. If it doesn't and Usy took a step aside money, he will regret it. If I were him, I'd push for his shot as at worst he will force AJ to relinquish the belt and fight Joyce for it. He is unlikely to miss his chance to fight for the WBO belt if he doesn't step aside. But if he does, then his chances actually decrease.
                    I never said nor did I insinuate that there was a undisputed mandatory. I was replying to you because it seemed you did not read the full article where they stated one option. Usyk can let them fight for the WBO belt that way there is a true undisputed champ and then that champ relinquishes the belt so Usyk can fight for it as soon as a week later.

                    Usyk has been asking for the belt more than the money as far as I can tell. In one of your scenarios you have Usyk fighting at the earliest for the belt in 2022. The scenario I mentioned from the article has him fighting for it this year without having to step aside. You mentioned him missing out on an opportunity at an undisputed title but he would need to fight Fury for the WBC belt so he would still not have that chance unless he actually fought Fury. Usyk does not deserve a shot at undisputed let alone a fast tracked shot at it.

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                    • 5000boxing
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Bain01D
                      What makes you think Wilder will destroy Fury when he could do it over the past 19 rounds and got his arse handed to him in the last 7???
                      Fury cheated for 19 rounds.. You clowns are hilarious.. You ask for proof.. We give proof.. U say its photoshopped.. Now that its confirmed u say it was the first fight.. Lol. I know.. That you know.. Furys gloves look wierd! and Fury has a history of cheating.. He has never had any punching power.. And he won't have any when he faces Wilder again for the trilogy! I will get the last laugh!

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