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  • Citizen Koba
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    #101
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Well, at least I have gotten you to acknowledge that concerns about globalist plans extend beyond conspiratorialism and paranoia and Christian fundamentalism in the US political arena.

    But besides the Anglophone conspiracysphere let's also add the Francophone one. In Canada anyway.

    https://www.ledevoir.com/politique/c...-conservateurs
    Yes indeed, the point again is fair... although I would point out that francophone Canada does fall under the description I used as the 4th largest oil producer in the world:

    it's received most approbation in the petrochemical producing nations
    And even in the article you link it's pointed out that the Canadian objections refered to started in the 'dark corners of the web' before being picked up by the right populist party and then the conservative Poilievre.. they kinda call it a conspiracy too, although Mr Poilevre himself ain't actually making any specifically outrageous claims, just saying it ain't the time to be messing around with experiments.


    But yes, in fact there's people from all over the world who express concerns about globalism and globalisation it's just they usually seem to find their loudest voice and most backing in the US and also be promoted most heavily there, particularly by the groups I already mentioned... also whilst many people are justifiably concerned about the effects of globalism on their way of life and working conditions that ain't really the same as the wilder conspiracies I'm seeing pushed specifically around the COVID crisis which is kinda where this conversation started up.

    Funny how the anti-globalisation movement's kinda mutated over the years though, something I've seen first hand having protested against neo*******ist globalisation as far back as the 90s from a principled left perspective now watching it become a rallying cry for the right is kinda weird.

    It's probably worth a little discussion over what exactly is meant by globalisation and globalism though cos I sometimes get the idea that folk kinda attach a lot of different meanings and assumptions to the term... at it's simplest we're just talking about a more interconnected, more networked world , with better trade links, communications, transport infrastructure and international and multilateral agreements... that in and of itself is virtually an inevtability - or rather it's already happened and rolling it back on a global level is almost inconceivable. So what we're talking about really is how to make the best of it I think, how to minimise the negative consequences and maximise the benefits. You read any Stieglitz?
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    • ShoulderRoll
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      #102
      Originally posted by Citizen Koba
      Yes indeed, the point again is fair... although I would point out that francophone Canada does fall under the description I used as the 4th largest oil producer in the world:
      Ok, you got me there. Canada is indeed a petrochemical producing nation.


      Originally posted by Citizen Koba
      And even in the article you link it's pointed out that the Canadian objections refered to started in the 'dark corners of the web' before being picked up by the right populist party and then the conservative Poilievre.. they kinda call it a conspiracy too, although Mr Poilevre himself ain't actually making any specifically outrageous claims, just saying it ain't the time to be messing around with experiments.
      Yeah. When people object to globalist policies the mainstream press seems to throw a lot of smears at them. Whether it be "dark corners of the web" in this case, or when ***** badmouths the Great Reset he is basing it on the "wild allegations of obscure bloggers."

      But they never seem to focus on how accurate or true the criticisms are.



      Originally posted by Citizen Koba
      But yes, in fact there's people from all over the world who express concerns about globalism and globalisation it's just they usually seem to find their loudest voice and most backing in the US and also be promoted most heavily there, particularly by the groups I already mentioned... also whilst many people are justifiably concerned about the effects of globalism on their way of life and working conditions that ain't really the same as the wilder conspiracies I'm seeing pushed specifically around the COVID crisis which is kinda where this conversation started up.

      Funny how the anti-globalisation movement's kinda mutated over the years though, something I've seen first hand having protested against neo*******ist globalisation as far back as the 90s from a principled left perspective now watching it become a rallying cry for the right is kinda weird.

      It's probably worth a little discussion over what exactly is meant by globalisation and globalism though cos I sometimes get the idea that folk kinda attach a lot of different meanings and assumptions to the term... at it's simplest we're just talking about a more interconnected, more networked world , with better trade links, communications, transport infrastructure and international and multilateral agreements... that in and of itself is virtually an inevtability - or rather it's already happened and rolling it back on a global level is almost inconceivable. So what we're talking about really is how to make the best of it I think, how to minimise the negative consequences and maximise the benefits. You read any Stieglitz?
      To me globalism is the pursuit of institutions that can create policies on a global scale and enforce them. With the power to overrule the wishes of sovereign nations if need be.

      Stiglitz the chief economist of the World Bank? I have not read much from him.

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      • BLASTER1
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        #103
        Spewing whos Canelo gonna feast on now. lol.

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        • BritishBoxing92
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          #104
          it sucks big time without a doubt..

          but what can you do really pandemic times anything is possible I guess I just hope it does not carry on repeating with lockdowns..

          sooner mass vaccinations and some form off normality the better we can see UK fights again..

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            #105
            Originally posted by RHETOЯIC
            All of their fighters from there have been losing lately anyway.


            Callum, Kell, Dillion, Amir, Luke Campbell..


            Good call on the shutdown.
            Amir and Brook are shot. Callum was only given 3 weeks to train, fought in the smallest ring i've ever seen, and had to crash his weight due to being big for the weight. Luke is coming off a loss, been out of the ring for over 15 months, had to travel, had Covid. Whyte was a straight loss though.

            But when you take on the best in that shape, of course you're going to lose. Fighting bums all the time and ducking isn't exactly the way to go. In fact, it's pathetic.

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              #106
              Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
              Good. BoxingScene should give them their own forum, too, to discuss their issues and fighters, instead of spamming NSB. The last site I used to be a member of did that and it was so much better.
              Actually, it's the Americans and Mexicans that are the extremists on every forum. However, to show just how extremist they are, they project all their darkness on to others and proclaim themselves as innocent.

              My views have changed over these two countries because of boxing forums. It also made me look deeper into their every day lives too to see if the same behaviours are at play. Which i find to match. Very disturbing to say the least.

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                #107
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                Actually, it's the Americans and Mexicans that are the extremists on every forum. However, to show just how extremist they are, they project all their darkness on to others and proclaim themselves as innocent.

                My views have changed over these two countries because of boxing forums. It also made me look deeper into their every day lives too to see if the same behaviours are at play. Which i find to match. Very disturbing to say the least.
                We are fine. Don't worry about us. We all have our extremists.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
                  I do not deny that it can be very severe in certain cases, including death, and each one is devastating. However, I strongly believe that there are a lot of things that you can to do protect yourself and improve the chance that if you do catch covid, you will not be in that 300k. The government is not encouraging these things and it is irresponsible of them to fail to do so. This is a disease that only kills .1% of people who get it.
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  What are those things the government is not encouraging?



                  It sickens millions which leads to loss of time at work, higher medical bills which causes a strain on household budgets. This hurts the economy for those who claim to be worried about the economy.

                  Secondly the hospitalizations, even without the deaths, is causing a run on hospitals creating shortages in beds which leads to non covid deaths. Especially considering how many Americans that are uninsured and use the ER as primary care because they wait until things are so bad they can't take it.

                  Can you see the dominoe effect?
                  See what im saying?

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                  • Sid-Knee
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                    We are fine. Don't worry about us. We all have our extremists.
                    But that's the problem... The vast majority of Americans and Mexicans on forums are extremists. The sane rational ones who don't slander and spew poisonous madness all the time are in the minority.

                    Even you are an extremist. You're not top level swivelled eyed lunacy, but still extreme. Adults in my life do not behave in this manner. It's f3cking creepy.

                    I would like a British forum away from the freaks. But like those forums that have this option, the freaks follow everyone and continue with their madness there too.

                    And before you play the innocent and ask why i think you're extreme, go and read your lunacy on Lomachenko because he scared your favourite fighter into being a coward in Davis. You act like an 8 year old who just saw Hulk Hogan be beaten. That's sadness. It has no purpose. It's not even intending to be funny. It's just insanity because you have incredibly volatile emotions. Go and see a psychiatrist and stop bringing your madness to places like a forum because it gets far too dark when the place is filled with mostly this kind of f3cked up madness.

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                    • BoxingIsGreat
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      But that's the problem... The vast majority of Americans and Mexicans on forums are extremists. The sane rational ones who don't slander and spew poisonous madness all the time are in the minority.

                      Even you are an extremist. You're not top level swivelled eyed lunacy, but still extreme. Adults in my life do not behave in this manner. It's f3cking creepy.

                      I would like a British forum away from the freaks. But like those forums that have this option, the freaks follow everyone and continue with their madness there too.

                      And before you play the innocent and ask why i think you're extreme, go and read your lunacy on Lomachenko because he scared your favourite fighter into being a coward in Davis. You act like an 8 year old who just saw Hulk Hogan be beaten. That's sadness. It has no purpose. It's not even intending to be funny. It's just insanity because you have incredibly volatile emotions. Go and see a psychiatrist and stop bringing your madness to places like a forum because it gets far too dark when the place is filled with mostly this kind of f3cked up madness.
                      I actually laughed at the part addressed to me. Thanks.

                      As far as a UK forum on here goes, I'm all for it. That other site I was talking about, in all the years I was there, I maybe checked it out just a few times. I was a Hatton fan at the time.

                      If you petition for a UK forum, let me know. I'll vote for it.

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