Comments Thread For: Travon Lawson Shocks Angel Barrientes, Stops Him in Fourth

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  • Boricua181
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    #11
    Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
    I have to be honest, every time I see an upset or close fight on PBC, I feel like their matchmaking went bad for them. I really don't dislike them any more than any other promotion but I always have more of an expectation that the favorites will win.
    The upsets are actually a good thing for boxing, and PBC. It shows that PBC isn't just matching their fighters against with no hope of winning. Giving their boxers an unfair, advantage against hand picked opponents would lead to boring fights, and foregone conclusions. Fighters should be matched evenly, in order to give their fights a more of a sportsmanship like event. If you know which guy's going to win, why tune in/or attend to watch, it would be anticlimactic. There would be no interest, or intrigue provided in such sporting events.

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    • Bronx2245
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      #12
      Welcome to professional boxing, where no one cares about your amateur background!

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      • Boricua181
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        #13
        Originally posted by richardt
        That last punch Lawson landed - from one angle it looked like it almost twisted the guy's head off! The ref saved him from another brutal punch that would have had the medics having to tend to him. He lives to fight another day.
        No need to feel bad for the twins, one won, the other lost, it's called a fair fight. I felt bad for the the opponent of the twin who won. He was being beaten from pillar, to post. He had no chance of winning, at least the other opponent had a chance to win, and did.

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        • Boricua181
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          #14
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          Welcome to professional boxing, where no one cares about your amateur background!
          That's not exactly true, boxers with glorified amateur experience are usually given the benefit of the doubt/decision. That said I was surprised, and excited by the outcome. After watching the first twin win by a landslide, it looked like the second twin would do the same. fighters should be matched evenly, in order to give them an equal opportunity to win the fight. I can't stand mismatches, and bad decisions, whether they're in the amateur's, or the professional ranks.
          Last edited by Boricua181; 12-27-2020, 08:19 AM. Reason: Added content.

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          • Lomadeaux
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            #15
            Originally posted by richardt
            Love it!!!!! Just love it when the "opponent" comes in and whacks out the favorite!! Fixed that kid's wagon and broke the gravy train for the two Barrientes brothers. They both thought they could fight two 30 something guys and it backfired on one. I damn near get a woody when that happens!
            I love it too. Reminds me of a Hopkins fight where he took the fight on 4 hours notice.

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              #16
              Time for the brother to seek revenge

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                #17
                Originally posted by Boricua181
                That's not exactly true, boxers with glorified amateur experience are usually given the benefit of the doubt/decision. That said I was surprised, and excited by the outcome. After watching the first twin win by a landslide, it looked like the second twin would do the same. fighters should be matched evenly, in order to give them an equal opportunity to win the fight. I can't stand mismatches, and bad decisions, whether they're in the amateur's, or the professional ranks.
                Yeah but their opponents don't give a damn about their amateur records! What I hate is how some fighters are getting title shots with less than 15 fights, and then others, like Boots Ennis (26-0 w/ 24 KOs) can't even get to mandatory status!

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                • Combat Talk Radio
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Boricua181
                  fighters should be matched evenly, in order to give them an equal opportunity to win OR LOSE the fight.
                  Small edit to an otherwise perfect reply.

                  The problem is, how do you measure 'equal'?

                  Can't go off raw record, many are padded.

                  Can't go by titles, not everyone has one.

                  Can't go by 'eye test', you end up with Felix Verdejo situations.

                  All you can go by is resume: who'd you beat, and who'd that guy beat?

                  But even that didn't help guys like Michael Spinks who arguably had a better resume than Tyson at the time, yet got obliterated in 1 round.

                  Sometimes, fighters just don't show up

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                  • 57Blues
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                    #19
                    Good review of the fight from the posts. Yea the kid thought he had it won but he agitated his oponent in the previous round and he got even. He said I am fine I am fine. No not really not even a little bit he would have really got hurt if left to fight on.

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                    • richardt
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by revelated
                      Small edit to an otherwise perfect reply.

                      The problem is, how do you measure 'equal'?

                      Can't go off raw record, many are padded.

                      Can't go by titles, not everyone has one.

                      Can't go by 'eye test', you end up with Felix Verdejo situations.

                      All you can go by is resume: who'd you beat, and who'd that guy beat?

                      But even that didn't help guys like Michael Spinks who arguably had a better resume than Tyson at the time, yet got obliterated in 1 round.

                      Sometimes, fighters just don't show up
                      How I usually tell a setup is when writers call the opponent ridiculous superlatives like "Winner of his last fight", "always comes to fight", "has won 2 in a row", "Better than his record", "only been stopped twice in 10 losses", and the infamous "Battle tested". Or when there is a fighter with a 15-0 record going against a guy with 13-5-2 record. Those brothers and their management were banking on having an easy night with two guys over 30 years old. But the easiest way to tell is when two brothers are fighting on the same card....no way are they going to be put in against equal talents. They want to keep the apple cart rolling.
                      Last edited by richardt; 12-27-2020, 02:01 PM.

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