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  • Monty Fisto
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    #71
    One thing's for certain: Stevenson wouldn't win every round against Loma.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Monty Fisto
      Well, sort of. You're absolutely right that the reason Lomachenko did virtually nothing for the first half of the fight was that he was clearly wary of Lopez's reach and power.

      However, in rounds 8, 9, 10, 11 Lomachenko didn't do nothing, he came at Lopez and chased the fight.

      Overall, it was too little, much too late.

      Lopez won on points. We can argue over how wide or narrow that was, but the point stands, he didn't beat up Loma. He won a decision.

      There's therefore a case to be made for a rematch.

      The reason there likely won't be one is that Lopez wants to avoid it. Fair enough if that is the case -- but he can't claim it's because he beat up Loma and there's no need for a rematch. The reason is that he is worried he can't pull it off a second time.
      I clearly mentioned the first 6 rounds or so. Not 8, 9, 10, or 11.

      The reason there won't be a rematch is because Lomachenko's team wanted no rematch clauses in the contract. So now they have to live with it.

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        #73
        Originally posted by monty fisto
        well, sort of. You're absolutely right that the reason lomachenko did virtually nothing for the first half of the fight was that he was clearly wary of lopez's reach and power.

        However, in rounds 8, 9, 10, 11 lomachenko didn't do nothing, he came at lopez and chased the fight.

        Overall, it was too little, much too late.

        Lopez won on points. We can argue over how wide or narrow that was, but the point stands, he didn't beat up loma. He won a decision.

        There's therefore a case to be made for a rematch.

        The reason there likely won't be one is that lopez wants to avoid it. Fair enough if that is the case -- but he can't claim it's because he beat up loma and there's no need for a rematch. The reason is that he is worried he can't pull it off a second time.
        thank you.........................

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          #74
          Originally posted by Lomadeaux
          Is that why he walked him down for 5 straight rounds? None of you guys understand anything about game plan.
          Lomachenko was scared to throw punches for the first half of the fight. Everyone acknowledges this.

          If that was actually his game plan then it was a dumb one.

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            #75
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            I clearly mentioned the first 6 rounds or so. Not 8, 9, 10, or 11.

            The reason there won't be a rematch is because Lomachenko's team wanted no rematch clauses in the contract. So now they have to live with it.
            I can only point out the facts: no you didn't.

            The entirety of your words were quoted, i.e:

            "Lomachenko wasn't doing anything for a reason.

            Teofimo had him shook"

            No mention of any specific rounds.

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              #76
              The biggest fight possible for Lopez is a rematch. That gives him the most money, the biggest exposure, the most glory. Yet he doesn't want it.

              Yes, there was no rematch clause because Loma didn't insist on one. That does not enforce no rematch. The reason there will not be a rematch is for one reason only: Lopez doesn't want it. We know he will want the most money. Therefore we have to conclude he doesn't think he will win.

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                #77
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                Lomachenko was scared to throw punches for the first half of the fight. Everyone acknowledges this.

                If that was actually his game plan then it was a dumb one.
                So he was "Scared" 1-6... then all of a sudden... he wasn't scared anymore???

                You guys sound like little children.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Monty Fisto
                  The biggest fight possible for Lopez is a rematch. That gives him the most money, the biggest exposure, the most glory. Yet he doesn't want it.

                  Yes, there was no rematch clause because Loma didn't insist on one. That does not enforce no rematch. The reason there will not be a rematch is for one reason only: Lopez doesn't want it. We know he will want the most money. Therefore we have to conclude he doesn't think he will win.
                  This dude is spitting straight fire..................

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Lomadeaux
                    So he was "Scared" 1-6... then all of a sudden... he wasn't scared anymore???

                    You guys sound like little children.
                    I have to assume that a sense of urgency finally kicked in.

                    But if he deliberately didn't throw punches on purpose, as part of some plan? Very dumb. No need to be blaming judges when you do something silly like that.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      Lomachenko was scared to throw punches for the first half of the fight. Everyone acknowledges this.

                      If that was actually his game plan then it was a dumb one.
                      I imagine his game plan was to keep things tight for a few rounds and pick up the pace as the fight wore on. As you say, he found it hard to let his hands go, probably because Lopez was faster, stronger, better than he expected and he probably feared running out of gas himself if he picked up the pace too early. The game plan in theory was sound, but the implementation was well off the mark. Clearly was inactive for too many rounds. Even in first two he should have tried to land a few and needed to start picking it up from third.

                      Leaving himself all to do in the second half was a mountain he couldn't climb.

                      Now that he cannot possibly underestimate Lopez in a second fight, the prospect of a rematch is more compelling. Yet no need, because there was no rematch clause, right?

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