People quick to say how it works but the fights not getting made so change how it works. What doesn't work is fighters ducking other fighters. What doesnt work is all tye belts and sanctioning bodies and weightclasses. What doesnt work is all these janky promoters protecting fighters and not giving the fans the best fights. And when did it become ok to pay 70 dollars to watch Canelo beat up on a hopeless Brit. Fans gotta stop being complacent and settling for whatever making excuses for these fighters. Do you want to see the fight or not?
Comments Thread For: Crawford on Spence's Purse Demands: Maybe That Wreck Knocked a Couple Screws Loose
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Porter would get stopped. How many title shots they giving Porter any way. Crawford needs to fight either Spence, Pacquiao or Thurman thats itComment
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Fighters don't gamble with the whole winner takes more money thing because you never know with these incompetent judges and referees. Fighters wanna maximize their profit and guaranteed purses because they have a short time span where they can make money and then it's over, they don't know a trade, they don't have an education or any of that plus their brain functions are diminished to various degrees after they're done, so they're looking to make as much as possible because they're gonna have to live off whatever they've made in their 5-10 year career for the rest of their lives, not only them, but their families and extended families too.How about this they just take what they made for their last fights. So whatever Spence made for Garcia and whatever Crawford made for Brook they get that same amount. Thats A and B. Then if the fight sells like craxy they can split the PPV revenue 50/50 or 40/40 with the extra 20 going to the winner. Why do people have to be worried about what the other one making...whats your number lets get that and be done.
That's why when fighters have too much power and have too many suits working for them, these negotiations get really complicated, in the past fighters took whatever they got and they thought it was going to last them forever, these fighters are almost all broke now, same thing will happen to the underpaid UFC fighters you see on TV today.Comment
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My thing is yeah I think Crawford should take less and they need to negotiate instead of going the social media route talking and all. I also think Spence might need to pull a Loma and give a little up to make the fight happen. Spence gave Mikey Garcia 50/50 because he was a 3-4 division champ. Crawford is a 3 division champ so that should at least get 55-45...maybe 52-48? Both will make more than other fights they've had and only a fight with Pacquiao would do better numbers or make more money and both Spence and Crawford would be the B-side of that one. They both need to stop the b.s and make the fight happenComment
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It doesn't work for us boxing fans. I agree, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work for the fighters or promoters. These guys always seem to find some dumbass network employee and sell him a bag of goods for a free TV deal for their fighters, networks don't spend on promoting these fights or building up these fighters and are just looking to fill some slots with air time, so everyone gets paid a bit to stay afloat, but it's not growing the sport by any means when all the fights are meaningless mismatches and the fighters or fights aren't being built up properly, that well will dry up soon though and hopefully it isn't too late.People quick to say how it works but the fights not getting made so change how it works. What doesn't work is fighters ducking other fighters. What doesnt work is all tye belts and sanctioning bodies and weightclasses. What doesnt work is all these janky promoters protecting fighters and not giving the fans the best fights. And when did it become ok to pay 70 dollars to watch Canelo beat up on a hopeless Brit. Fans gotta stop being complacent and settling for whatever making excuses for these fighters. Do you want to see the fight or not?
Talent not getting into boxing because of boxing fading and becoming a high risk low reward sport is what would kill the sport. And with dwindling viewership and purses, just that might happenComment
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Its easy to say we just want to see the fights, make it work.People quick to say how it works but the fights not getting made so change how it works. What doesn't work is fighters ducking other fighters. What doesnt work is all tye belts and sanctioning bodies and weightclasses. What doesnt work is all these janky promoters protecting fighters and not giving the fans the best fights. And when did it become ok to pay 70 dollars to watch Canelo beat up on a hopeless Brit. Fans gotta stop being complacent and settling for whatever making excuses for these fighters. Do you want to see the fight or not?
But this is a business. You have to have some kind of figures behind you to justify the money you are asking for. Crawford unfortunately has none.
And you could have watched Canelo vs Callum Smith for $19.99 on DAZN. No need to pay $70.Comment
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It's the guys trying to be like Mayweather, he cant help that, but then, some people complained Ali ruined the sport.And this is why these kind of idiots hurt the sport.
Both these clowns should be itching to face each other to prove who’s the best since both are unproven yet they’re whining about who gets the bigger purse lol
Boxing can thank Mayweather for the stank he left on the sport these new guys don't care shytt about they’re legacy just $$$$$ they’re all *****made embarrassments to the sport.Comment
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And this is why these kind of idiots hurt the sport.
Both these clowns should be itching to face each other to prove who’s the best since both are unproven yet they’re whining about who gets the bigger purse lol
Boxing can thank Mayweather for the stank he left on the sport these new guys don't care shytt about they’re legacy just $$$$$ they’re all *****made embarrassments to the sport.Mayweather didn't do dumb sh1t like this.
He took less money than Arturo Gatti and Oscar de la Hoya to get those fights made. You didn't see him missing out on those opportunities.Comment
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I agree with all of this, but I think the main problem is that both guys see this fight as a cash out fight that they're gonna live off the revenue of for the rest of their lives. There aren't any other potential ppv fights out there where they can make more money if they win or lose that fight except maybe in a rematch, so every little % is hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars taken off the table.My thing is yeah I think Crawford should take less and they need to negotiate instead of going the social media route talking and all. I also think Spence might need to pull a Loma and give a little up to make the fight happen. Spence gave Mikey Garcia 50/50 because he was a 3-4 division champ. Crawford is a 3 division champ so that should at least get 55-45...maybe 52-48? Both will make more than other fights they've had and only a fight with Pacquiao would do better numbers or make more money and both Spence and Crawford would be the B-side of that one. They both need to stop the b.s and make the fight happen
Back in the day when boxing had more stars in it, fighters could afford leaving some money at the negotiating table because they saw the bigger picture, and that bigger picture was win lose or draw, if I can just put on a good performance, I can still make mone later in a rematch or against other ppv fighters and I'll be OK, fighters like Marquez, Pacquiao, Cotto, Dela Hoya and so on made hundreds of millionswith numerous losses on their records. It doesn't really work like that anymore unfortunately, and a generation of fighters is going to have to take massive cuts and risks for the sport to stay alive and for it to have more superstars again.Last edited by Dip_Slide; 12-23-2020, 02:29 AM.Comment
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