Comments Thread For: Crawford on Spence's Purse Demands: Maybe That Wreck Knocked a Couple Screws Loose

[ReggieKray]

Would you rather see him go f himself or in the ring with Errol Spence? Would you rather see Spence explore all of his supposed many options before facing Crawford? I personally don’t care about either one of their options cause I want to see them fight each other. Bob Arum’s unprofessional behavior just proves that the numbers on Crawford’s fights don’t tell the full story and that his promoter is actively working against him. Crawford having a bad relationship with his senile promoter doesn’t make Errol Spence and Danny Garcia’s mediocre PPV numbers look any better than what they are.

All Bud needs to do is accept the the 40, it seems. If not I'm fine with Spence fighting Pacquiao in the meantime. And if Spence beats Pac, he'll probably get the Ring belt, which will of course only further the claim that Spence is the A-side.

And guess what will happen within all of 2021, Crawford will just keep fighting mandatories/losing money for top rank.

The point is, its easy for Crawford to get left out if he doesn't want to concede to just taking 40. So it's ultimately up to himself if he want to fk himself over.

Crawford is over here acting like he can just cruise on fighting nobody's forever while he just waits for someone to give him a Pacquiao hand out.

After Spence gets Pacquiao, Spence will have to look for his next big money fight. I'm pretty sure he'll look elsewhere if Crawford hasn't at least fought Porter, Garcia, or Thurman. And if Crawford doesn't... Then thats on him.. And he can continue to cry in the corner and say he doesn't need Spence lol.

[South Champion]

dont try to compare boxing to league sports..or even ufc which is basically a league sport...everything is different...its not even comparible....and i could easily tell you why but you should be smart enough to know...their models and approach are much different....its not even apples to oranges thats how much boxing differs from the nba, nfl and even ufc...

again...we can be idealists....guys arent simply going to say "well im worth 60 percent...but ill take 50 so maybe if theres a rematch i can take 60-65"...what if there is no rematch? guys arent going to act and take deals like that.......the sport of boxing is much tougher to navigate than being a star basketball players or football player

I understand the differences, boxing has no pensions, less endorsements, and the fighter goes into the ring alone and risks their life. But having so many potential stars waste their primes fighting big underdogs instead of each other is holding the sport back, which means the fighters are missing out on money. Teofimo Lopez took on Loma because as he said to all the young undefeated champs in boxing, "You need to be Pretty Boy Floyd before you become Money Mayweather."

[Combat Talk Radio]

The point is, its easy for Crawford to get left out if he doesn't want to concede to just taking 40. So it's ultimately up to himself if he want to fk himself over.

Crawford is over here acting like he can just cruise on fighting nobody's forever while he just waits for someone to give him a Pacquiao hand out.

Sure he can, because his fans and certain networks will watch him spark C-levels (per BoMac) and "wounded duck" (per BoMac) opponents, simply because it was a knockout win, keep calling him #1 P4P.

[peplz]

dont try to compare boxing to league sports..or even ufc which is basically a league sport...everything is different...its not even comparible....and i could easily tell you why but you should be smart enough to know...their models and approach are much different....its not even apples to oranges thats how much boxing differs from the nba, nfl and even ufc...

again...we can be idealists....guys arent simply going to say "well im worth 60 percent...but ill take 50 so maybe if theres a rematch i can take 60-65"...what if there is no rematch? guys arent going to act and take deals like that.......the sport of boxing is much tougher to navigate than being a star basketball players or football player

Since you seem quite astute on the practical ways in which the boxing business plays out you should also know that trying to use the media to gain negotiation leverage is a proven way to kill any potential real negotiations that may have taken place otherwise. Its happened over and over again in this sport. So I will assume that you are informed enough to be able to recall examples of your own without me having to point them out.

[ReggieKray]

Sure he can, because his fans and certain networks will watch him spark C-levels (per BoMac) and "wounded duck" (per BoMac) opponents, simply because it was a knockout win, keep calling him #1 P4P.

True but that might not be sustainable.. Well maybe.. GGG did it haha. Hmm probably why HBO boxing went out of business haha.

[peplz]

All Bud needs to do is accept the the 40, it seems. If not I'm fine with Spence fighting Pacquiao in the meantime. And if Spence beats Pac, he'll probably get the Ring belt, which will of course only further the claim that Spence is the A-side.

And guess what will happen within all of 2021, Crawford will just keep fighting mandatories/losing money for top rank.

The point is, its easy for Crawford to get left out if he doesn't want to concede to just taking 40. So it's ultimately up to himself if he want to fk himself over.

Crawford is over here acting like he can just cruise on fighting nobody's forever while he just waits for someone to give him a Pacquiao hand out.

After Spence gets Pacquiao, Spence will have to look for his next big money fight. I'm pretty sure he'll look elsewhere if Crawford hasn't at least fought Porter, Garcia, or Thurman. And if Crawford doesn't... Then thats on him.. And he can continue to cry in the corner and say he doesn't need Spence lol.

The only relevant thing you said is that you’re fine seeing Spence go explore his supposed other options before fighting Crawford. And I think this is a very common sentiment amongst those who support Errol Spence’s position. He don’t care so y’all don’t care either.

[Curt Henning]

I understand the differences, boxing has no pensions, less endorsements, and the fighter goes into the ring alone and risks their life. But having so many potential stars waste their primes fighting big underdogs instead of each other is holding the sport back, which means the fighters are missing out on money. Teofimo Lopez took on Loma because as he said to all the young undefeated champs in boxing, "You need to be Pretty Boy Floyd before you become Money Mayweather."

i dont disagree with what youre saying there.....but that has little to do with spence/bud rn...

[ReggieKray]

The only relevant thing you said is that you’re fine seeing Spence go explore his supposed other options before fighting Crawford. And I think this is a very common sentiment amongst those who support Errol Spence’s position. He don’t care so y’all don’t care either.

Pacquiao is really the one pulling the strings here. Crawford or Spencer will throw their fight to the curb if Pacquiao picks them.

Since Spence will most likely get that fight, it will screw Crawford.. Crawford will sink into a deeper leverage disadvantage. The only way I see this working in Crawford's favor now is if he concedes to fight Spence for cheap....Beats Spence and then gets the Pacquiao fight... But that's not going to happen. With all the espn smoke up Crawford's a55, he's just gonna miss out on the Pacquiao fight and still make less if Spence decides to give him a fight after he becomes the ring camp at 147...

And you know why all this is happening to Crawford...? because how he has been positioning himself by not fighting anyone worth a zhit in the past couple of years.

[Curt Henning]

Pacquiao is really the one pulling the strings here. Crawford or Spencer will throw their fight to the curb if Pacquiao picks them.

Since Spence will most likely get that fight, it will screw Crawford.. Crawford will sink into a deeper leverage disadvantage. The only way I see this working in Crawford's favor now is if he concedes to fight Spence for cheap....Beats Spence and then gets the Pacquiao fight... But that's not going to happen. With all the espn smoke up Crawford's a55, he's just gonna miss out on the Pacquiao fight and still make less if Spence decides to give him a fight after he becomes the ring camp at 147...

And you know why all this is happening to Crawford...? because how he has been positioning himself by not fighting anyone worth a zhit in the past couple of years.

and these same pbc hating fgts will still blame the pbc for bud not fighting any of them.....even though bud was on camera saying "porter not on my radar" after kenny said "call us"...he literally shot down any chance of even talking right there ...and instead chose to let bob pay kell brook without even making an offer to porter

and bob himself had been saying "were eyeing porter after this fight" leading up to the mean machine fight....bud did a 180 once kenny spoke up and said he had haymons blessing.....thats how bud and TR have been playing this whole thing all along

they dont want to fight the pbc guys unless they can have them for cheap or its a big money making co promotion like fury/wilder 2.....bob has shown his cards...

why would bud immediately shoot down the porter fight when asked about it on camera and then go fight brook? they made no offer to porter...he didnt even express interest in saying "well yeah if shawn wants to yeah lets do it"....they said "not on my radar" and went to brook like brook offered him something better in terms of reward......porter came off a FOTY candidate against buds supposed chief rival...so why go fight the guy your rival dispatched of 3 years ago instead?

[peplz]

Pacquiao is really the one pulling the strings here. Crawford or Spencer will throw their fight to the curb if Pacquiao picks them.

Since Spence will most likely get that fight, it will screw Crawford.. Crawford will sink into a deeper leverage disadvantage. The only way I see this working in Crawford's favor now is if he concedes to fight Spence for cheap....Beats Spence and then gets the Pacquiao fight... But that's not going to happen. With all the espn smoke up Crawford's a55, he's just gonna miss out on the Pacquiao fight and still make less if Spence decides to give him a fight after he becomes the ring camp at 147...

And you know why all this is happening to Crawford...? because how he has been positioning himself by not fighting anyone worth a zhit in the past couple of years.

And the only reason that Pacquiao would choose to fight Spence over Crawford is that he feels he can beat Spence but not Crawford. Thats pretty obvious. And when and if Pacquiao does defeat Spence which I think that he would. Then where does Spence stand with all this leverage he and his supporters hopes he will gain? And why do you even care about any of that? Y’all only care about how much money the fighters make and who has leverage in negotiations. Errol Spence can scream to the mountain top about his fame and PPV numbers but nobody really believes or is even interested in any of that other than his fans and people who are invested in the feuds between promotional companies and broadcasting platforms.