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  • Sid-Knee
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    #31
    Originally posted by Queen_Leia
    He's the A-side, all A-side have done it throughout boxing history. Mayweather did it to Alvarez, De La Hoya did it to Mayweather, etc.

    Learn what being a A-side means in boxing. Again all boxers can say "no" if they don't like the terms.




    Blah, blah, blah.
    Because he's the A side??? That's an answer right up there with "I did stab and kill her with a knife, but that's only because i have hands to do so which makes it alright". No it doesn't.

    Oscar fought at LightMiddle against Floyd. Oscar was a LightMiddle at the time so of course the fight happened there. You know what happened when Oscar went back to Welter after so long against Pac and was nothing but a weight drained Zombie. So you're wrong in saying Oscar had any restrictions on Floyd. Which doesn't surprise me considering.

    Mayweather shouldn't have made Canelo drop the 2 pounds, but Floyd wasn't a LightMiddle. He was a Welter.

    Name one fighter in history that has as many cheating ways that Canelo does with pretty much every fighter now? You can't.

    Why did he restrict even Rocky Fielding with weight? Why even do that? If he's a world class fighter that is supposedly better than all of these guys, then why does he want to weaken them even further? What kind of honour is that? Is he going to blind his next victim by gouging out their eyes? And in your mind, because he's the "A side" that makes it all alright? Even though that's about as cowardly as it gets?

    You deserve Canelo. Two cowards with no wish for a fair fight on an even playing field. That's your champion. Haha. You couldn't even make this madness up. Fraud and corruption, that is what Canelo is all about. Cherry picking when they're at their weakest, then applying as many crazy weakening tools as he can muster. And that's all without his bribed judges that have given him so many corrupt cards and ripped honest pros off.

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    • BaguMka
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      #32
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
      Because he's the A side??? That's an answer right up there with "I did stab and kill her with a knife, but that's only because i have hands to do so which makes it alright". No it doesn't.

      Oscar fought at LightMiddle against Floyd. Oscar was a LightMiddle at the time so of course the fight happened there. You know what happened when Oscar went back to Welter after so long against Pac and was nothing but a weight drained Zombie. So you're wrong in saying Oscar had any restrictions on Floyd. Which doesn't surprise me considering.

      Mayweather shouldn't have made Canelo drop the 2 pounds, but Floyd wasn't a LightMiddle. He was a Welter.

      Name one fighter in history that has as many cheating ways that Canelo does with pretty much every fighter now? You can't.

      Why did he restrict even Rocky Fielding with weight? Why even do that? If he's a world class fighter that is supposedly better than all of these guys, then why does he want to weaken them even further? What kind of honour is that? Is he going to blind his next victim by gouging out their eyes? And in your mind, because he's the "A side" that makes it all alright? Even though that's about as cowardly as it gets?

      You deserve Canelo. Two cowards with no wish for a fair fight on an even playing field. That's your champion. Haha. You couldn't even make this madness up. Fraud and corruption, that is what Canelo is all about. Cherry picking when they're at their weakest, then applying as many crazy weakening tools as he can muster. And that's all without his bribed judges that have given him so many corrupt cards and ripped honest pros off.
      Great post. Thank god someone make sense

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      • Noelanthony
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        #33
        Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
        Look, I don't like the guy, I think he's a diva and awful for the sport of boxing, but there's no doubt Canelo is as good as it gets from 160-175. I just want him to fight guys like Beterbiev and Bivol cuz there probably the only 2 I can think of (aside from Andrade, Charlo, maybe a Joe Smith or Jean Pascal) that can put up a good challenge against Canelo. Beterbiev/Bievol vs. Canelo I think is 50-50.
        Joe Smith and old pascal? Boo boo will retire undefeated having never fought anyone and Charlo is just ok, plus he will move up in weight which I will fancy his chances even less if he will compete with Canelo at that weight

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          #34
          Originally posted by Noelanthony
          Joe Smith and old pascal? Boo boo will retire undefeated having never fought anyone and Charlo is just ok, plus he will move up in weight which I will fancy his chances even less if he will compete with Canelo at that weight
          Hear me out bro. To be clear, Canelo would be a heavy heavy favorite over those 2. But the point is they've been in tough fights plenty of times against more skilled opponents, we know they have heart, we know they know how to fight back, and we know they're going to fight to win for all 12 rounds. That's more than you can see for a lot of these guys like Callum Smith.

          Yes, Canelo probably wins, BUT, I would give him credit for taking those fights cuz Joe Smith comes to fight.

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            #35
            Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
            Hear me out bro. To be clear, Canelo would be a heavy heavy favorite over those 2. But the point is they've been in tough fights plenty of times against more skilled opponents, we know they have heart, we know they know how to fight back, and we know they're going to fight to win for all 12 rounds. That's more than you can see for a lot of these guys like Callum Smith.

            Yes, Canelo probably wins, BUT, I would give him credit for taking those fights cuz Joe Smith comes to fight.
            Fair enough. ....I didn’t like what Smith did to Hopkins so I was happy when he lost

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              #36
              Originally posted by Noelanthony
              Fair enough. ....I didn’t like what Smith did to Hopkins so I was happy when he lost
              I didn't either. But I was impressed that he came back so quickly after he got schooled by Sullivan Barrera to take on Bivol. Got destroyed but fought with a lot of heart. And then bounced back to beat 2 good guys in Jess Hart and Alvarez, takes a lot of character to rebound from defeat like that and show your best stuff.

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                #37
                Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
                I didn't either. But I was impressed that he came back so quickly after he got schooled by Sullivan Barrera to take on Bivol. Got destroyed but fought with a lot of heart. And then bounced back to beat 2 good guys in Jess Hart and Alvarez, takes a lot of character to rebound from defeat like that and show your best stuff.
                True true...

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                  #38
                  I can see it now:

                  Clenelo-Beterbiev: Beterbiev has 12 hours to to do all his training camp and 40 rehydration clauses.

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                  • Boxing Logic
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
                    Canelo-Bivol would be fairly boring but Beterbiev one needs to happen asap.

                    Hell yea Beterbiev fight is intriguing and if Canelo plans on staying in the big boy divisions, he needs to fight Beterbiev.

                    One thing about Canelo is that he doesnt shy away from challenges.
                    Bivol is one of the most talented guys in the sport. His shows vs Barrera and Pascal were some of the most entertaining onesided performances. He one punch stopped Broadhurst a big light heavyweight, Canelo can not one punch KO C level guys at 154 or 160.

                    Bivol vs Canelo on paper is like Spence vs Mikey. At worst, Bivol is Canelo's equal in ability, yet he's two divisions bigger. At best, he is better than Canelo period, and he's way bigger.

                    That's why I would definitely pick Canelo to beat Bivol though. Unlike Mikey compared to Spence, Canelo is definitely more marketable compared to Bivol. The game of Boxing is too dirty for anything I said to matter. If the boxer with the better combination of skill and size made any difference to winning fights, Canelo already would have lost to Callum Smith and lost really badly to Kovalev. And GGG wouldn't have turned into a less accurate Antonio Margarito for two fights, but with a better jab yet without the fearlessness. And Lara wouldn't have turned into Paulie Malignaggi where his punches couldn't keep Canelo from coming forward but Floyd's could. Floyd dont pop like Lara, not at 154.

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                      #40
                      Yet GGG won’t go up past 160 and that’s perfectly fine, but Canelo should be fighting 175lb dudes. Jeezus this kind of stuff just can’t be made up.

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