Comments Thread For: Spence Promises "All-Out War" Against Alvarez At 160 But Canelo Wants 168 Titles Instead

[HewJohnson]

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PAC is going to fight Brandon Rios or Broner.
Or even Vargas or Mikey Garcia. Maybe Mathysse.
That’s how he rolls

He already beat all those guys.
Not Mikey yet tho.

Who did Mikey fight last?

Oh that’s right, SPENCE.

Lol.

[Doubledagger]

Spence was Hollering! out Strap Season!! Then Bud Crawford enters his 147 Divison with a Strap & now Lil Spence wants to move up and avoid that Smoke. Crawford and Canelo would both **** Spence UP! FACTS!!

"I want to be the undisputed champion at welterweight. But if there is a great fight at 160, I can definitely move up to 160 and fight there easily.”

Let us blatantly ignore the part where he clearly says his first choice is to become undisputed at welterweight because it doesn't suit our Spence ducking Crawford narrative


******** clown!

[Doubledagger]

Facts.
Wait till the dude is 3 or 4 divisions above him and then call him out.

Never once opened his dick-sucker to call him out when they were roughly in near neighborhoods in terms of weight.

You ain't kiddin nobody, kid.

Last time I checked Canelo is still holding a belt at 160 and we all know that the reason he won't go down has nothing to do with weight and everything to do with ducking a GGG trilogy, and a Charlo and Andrade match up.

Canelo simply doesn't want to get asked those questions anymore.

I also find it amazing that all of you praised Alvarez for jumping two weight classes to fight Kovalev but criticise Spence for doing attempting the same, except for Spence its against a prime elite fighter and not a washed up has been vodka addicted drunk.

[Roadblock]

He already beat all those guys.
Not Mikey yet tho.

Who did Mikey fight last?

Oh that’s right, SPENCE.

Lol.

Mikey was calling Spence out all over town Errol really had no choice as guys like you would be saying Spence ducked the then undefeated Mikey, bit different story if Manny now fights Mikey after saying he wanted the winner of Spence Mikey, its how Manny rolls.

[SweetPbfAli]

Canelo should tell Spence that he'll fight him at 160 after he fights Crawford. Maybe we'll get somewhere.

[Doubledagger]

Yup, can see him pull a Victor Ortiz once he gets smoked and walk away saying he doesn't want to get hit anymore it's not worth it...then comeback after overspending on the ranch and become the next Thurman.

Really disaponted in this guy! He can keep his belts, Bud is and will continue to be in the debate for #1 P4P and Spence will keep looking for way to cash out.

(I understand that they are protecting their investment in a boxing career and areclose to crazy $ and are afraid to miss out, just admit it and I'll respect the choice, but talking trash..noway)

The accident clearly changed his prioreties.

Of course he always wanted the money, everyone wants the money, but I always felt for him it was balanced between money and legacy.

I feel like the scale has tipped towards money, its no longer balanced.

The encounter he had with his mortality has made him realise the importance of financial security for himself and his family.

If you're listening to what he is saying from an objective perspective instead of a fanboy perspective, he isn't saying he won't fight Pac or Crawford, he is just saying that he wants all three.

In this same article he said he wants to be undisputed champion at welterweight, to do that he needs to fight Pac and Crawford obviously, but he also said he is willing to go up if Canelo calls.

That's all this means.

But fanboys are not interested in the truth they are only interested in their narrative.

People complaining about Spence saying Crawford deserves 70/30 split or 60/40 split.

Those same people are forgetting that Spence only startes talking like this after Crawford said he doesn't need Spence for his legacy and refered to Spence's career as a "little career".

Before that Spence had always spoken respectfully about Crawford and spoken directly about wanting to fight Pac and Crawford next, Spence only became dismissive after those 'little career' comments and Crawford saying he doesn't need Spence but Spence needs him.

So now Spence is dismissive of him and is head hunting bigger, more well know fighters, he also fighting better comp then Crawford and is selling much higher ppvs.

This is Errol's way of showing Crawford who really needs who here.

I have no doubt Spence still wants the fight but Crawford needs to realise his position.

Funny thing is if Crawford had never started saying those things and had continued to speak respectfully like Errol was about him, I could see the fight being agreed at 50/50 split.

Crawford justhad to go and allow his pride and ego to get the better of him.

[SweetPbfAli]

Spence needs to understand that Canelo has never fought at anything lighter than 154 and Spence already 30 yrs old has yet to actually fight at 154. Big welterweight. Small middleweight. KO loss

Canelo started at Welter but he was also a teenager so most of his meaningful fights did happen at 154 and up.

[SweetPbfAli]

The accident clearly changed his prioreties.

Of course he always wanted the money, everyone wants the money, but I always felt for him it was balanced between money and legacy.

I feel like the scale has tipped towards money, its no longer balanced.

The encounter he had with his mortality has made him realise the importance of financial security for himself and his family.

If you're listening to what he is saying from an objective perspective instead of a fanboy perspective, he isn't saying he won't fight Pac or Crawford, he is just saying that he wants all three.

In this same article he said he wants to be undisputed champion at welterweight, to do that he needs to fight Pac and Crawford obviously, but he also said he is willing to go up if Canelo calls.

That's all this means.

But fanboys are not interested in the truth they are only interested in their narrative.

People complaining about Spence saying Crawford deserves 70/30 split or 60/40 split.

Those same people are forgetting that Spence only startes talking like this after Crawford said he doesn't need Spence for his legacy and refered to Spence's career as a "little career".

Before that Spence had always spoken respectfully about Crawford and spoken directly about wanting to fight Pac and Crawford next, Spence only became dismissive after those 'little career' comments and Crawford saying he doesn't need Spence but Spence needs him.

So now Spence is dismissive of him and is head hunting bigger, more well know fighters, he also fighting better comp then Crawford and is selling much higher ppvs.

This is Errol's way of showing Crawford who really needs who here.

I have no doubt Spence still wants the fight but Crawford needs to realise his position.

Funny thing is if Crawford had never started saying those things and had continued to speak respectfully like Errol was about him, I could see the fight being agreed at 50/50 split.

Crawford justhad to go and allow his pride and ego to get the better of him.

I agree with most of this but Crawford made that comment after Spence mentioned 60/40. I just don't want it to seem as if it was completely unprovoked.

Now realistically, Crawford may have to take 60/40 to make the fight but that's just public posturing by both with Spence having more options and leverage.

[Blond Beast]

“Sometimes you need to fight with a name like that to make a payday that doesn't exist outside of the usual channels. You're going to have to do something a little bit crazy. For Spence to fight Alvarez, it's the only way in my opinion that he's going to make that kind of money. He's not going to make it against Terence Crawford.”


Bingo! Eddie Hearn just hit the hammer right on the nail. He just confirmed what every real boxing fan already knows.

Terence Crawford is just not a huge of enough box office draw in order for Spence to make the kind of money that he wants.

In addition, Bud doesn't put any meat in the seats or bring in any new fans to the sport either. Also, he doesn't have a large of fanbase or following too.

Yep, it’s still prize fighting. I’d love to see Canelo fight Beterbiev @175 or even @168 if Beterbiev can make it. But it’s the toughest challenge with maybe the least financial gains. If the Bud fight isn’t going to happen, then Nelo having to drop a class and Spence moving up two wouldnt be the worst thing to happen. Not dying to see Caleb Plant, BJS marginally better. Hard to imagine anyone giving him much trouble anyway. It wouldn’t happen, but Spence v GGG wouldn’t be awful either.

[Roadblock]

Yep, it’s still prize fighting. I’d love to see Canelo fight Beterbiev @175 or even @168 if Beterbiev can make it. But it’s the toughest challenge with maybe the least financial gains. If the Bud fight isn’t going to happen, then Nelo having to drop a class and Spence moving up two wouldnt be the worst thing to happen. Not dying to see Caleb Plant, BJS marginally better. Hard to imagine anyone giving him much trouble anyway. It wouldn’t happen, but Spence v GGG wouldn’t be awful either.

In a strange way I see Spence run over by GGG yet competitive with Canelo, and I see Canelo beating GGG in a third fight, just the differences in speed power between the 3 and how their styles mesh.