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  • soul_survivor
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    Canelo: Why he doesn't get credit

    Canelo just beat Smith, the Ring magazine SMW champion in a lopsided victory. He has now won titles from 154 all the way up to 175, he should be lauded as one of the true greats with years of his prime left in him and yet the sounds of discontent are growing louder. Without jumping on either side of the fence, let us see why?

    - Canelo won his first world title against Matthew Hatton, a career light welterweight (140 lb)....the title was the WBC light middleweight crown (154 lb). The image of the golden boy was already painted. This did not help with non Mexican fans.

    - Canelo's initial defences included Ryan Rhodes, Alfonso Gomez and Kermit Cintron. Stoppage wins in all but no serious competition.

    - Canelo's first truly high profile fight was against the badly ageing Mosley. He failed to stop the shot fighter.

    - Canelo's first unification and most important fight till that point was against Trout. This is a no excuse, out and out terrific opponent. Canelo won by wide margins with one scorecard having it 118-109. Scorecards were announced throughout the fight and it was obvious that Canelo was winning rounds regardless of the in ring action. Trout looked dejected. The non Mexican fan outcry was starting to grow.

    - Canelo was now in the biggest PPV event of his career against Floyd Mayweather. The fight was held at a catchweight of 152lb, it was obvious Canelo looked drained, weak and not the same fighter he had been in previous bouts. Mayweather won easily.

    - Now a career midpoint, where Canelo is one of the biggest PPV names in the sport and can dictate fight contracts. In doing so he dictates weights, fighting leading light middleweight Erislandy Lara in the middleweight division (155 lb). The fight is a controversial decision, for some, even more so than the Trout win.

    - GGG...this should have been Canelo's crowning glory, or rather, that's how it was being billed yet GGG should have won the fight. Even the pro Mexican Canelo fans start to boo the decision. Rematch, Canelo is a lot better but GGG once again seems to win down the stretch, or at the least get a draw, Canelo wins again.

    - The latest chapter in the Canelo story is one of uneven contracts, bad opponents and dictating everything from weights to rehydration clauses. No fighter, not even Mayweather, has had so much control. Kovalev was beaten while adhering to strict rehydration clauses and a broken right hand. The latest win, against Callum Smith seemed to come against an opponent unwilling or unable to fight...maybe just having enough time to train for weight.

    What does the next chapter hold? And can Canelo remove the asterixis throughout his career?
  • Divine Hammer
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    canelo will just continue the formula of fighting mediocre competition until one of the real big threats show enough weakness for him to capitalize on.

    canelo wanted nothing to do with ggg when he was steamrolling opponents until he looked human against jacobs.

    canelo wanted nothing to do with callum until he lost badly to ryder.

    canelo didn't fight jacobs until he struggled badly against derevyanchenko.

    canelo doesn't want nothing to do with beterbiev until he gets old and/or looks very vulnerable in his next fight. guaranteed.

    in the meantime expect fielding chavez jr level competition.

    classic cherry picker.
    Last edited by Divine Hammer; 12-20-2020, 11:01 AM.

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #3
      Originally posted by soul_survivor
      Canelo just beat Smith, the Ring magazine SMW champion in a lopsided victory. He has now won titles from 154 all the way up to 175, he should be lauded as one of the true greats with years of his prime left in him and yet the sounds of discontent are growing louder. Without jumping on either side of the fence, let us see why?

      - Canelo won his first world title against Matthew Hatton, a career light welterweight (140 lb)....the title was the WBC light middleweight crown (154 lb).
      Yes but you’re a known Pacterd on the forum for years.

      Your subtext failed when you said Hatton was a career 140 fighter. I wouldn’t even say you did that by mistake, you intentionally did that. Hatton was always swerving around 147+ as did Canelo moving up to “154.”

      You’re trying to create asterisks to discredit him.

      How about the catchweight king PAC before him?

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        #4
        Originally posted by Divine Hammer
        canelo will just continue the formula of fighting mediocre competition until one of the real big threats show enough weakness for him to capitalize on.

        canelo wanted nothing to do with ggg when he was steamrolling opponents until he looked human against jacobs.

        canelo wanted nothing to do with callum until he lost badly to ryder.

        canelo didn't fight jacobs until he struggled badly against derevyanchenko.

        canelo doesn't want nothing to do with beterbiev until he gets old and/or looks very vulnerable in his next fight. guaranteed.

        in the meantime expect fielding chavez jr level competition.

        classic cherry picker.
        And you’re also a known Pacterd. You guys lost it when PAC lost to Floyd. I guess with PAC not staying busy as of late, Canelo it is

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        • Divine Hammer
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          Originally posted by To Be Frank Doe
          And you’re also a known Pacterd. You guys lost it when PAC lost to Floyd. I guess with PAC not staying busy as of late, Canelo it is
          can't argue the facts presented so u have to resort to calling ppl "pacterds" hajahahahahahaha pathetic. get a clue u absolute slime ball!

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          • _Maxi
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            Canelo has had many things happening to his career. Not everything is good.

            1. Getting gift decision against GGG 1.
            2. Creating his own 155 division.
            3. Vacating a Mw belt to avoid a 34 years old GGG.

            I've listed many of these facts here https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=838077

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #7
              Originally posted by Divine Hammer
              can't argue the facts presented so u have to resort to calling ppl "pacterds" hajahahahahahaha pathetic. get a clue u absolute slime ball!
              But you are. . The NSB vets know this.

              I even let you breathe without mentioning GGG. You guys did the whole “Ward ducked GGG” thing too.

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              • Divine Hammer
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                Originally posted by To Be Frank Doe
                Yes but you’re a known Pacterd on the forum for years.

                Your subtext failed when you said Hatton was a career 140 fighter. I wouldn’t even say you did that by mistake, you intentionally did that. Hatton was always swerving around 147+ as did Canelo moving up to “154.”

                You’re trying to create asterisks to discredit him.

                How about the catchweight king PAC before him?
                matthew hatton was absolutely mediocre who cares if it's 140 or 147 or 154. wbc gifted canelo his first belt. and it happened at a catchweight that canelo and his team picked and that himself couldn't make hahahahahahahahsha. pathetic.

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                • Thuglife Nelo
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by _Maxi
                  Canelo has had many things happening to his career. Not everything is good.

                  1. Getting gift decision against GGG 1.
                  2. Creating his own 155 division.
                  3. Vacating a Mw belt to avoid a 34 years old GGG.

                  I've listed many of these facts here https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=838077
                  And classic Maxi Pad showing up. The same posters whom hyped the PAC beat Floyd in slow motion. Argentinos hating on Mexicans is no uncommon thing . This is the “my uncle is German and Italian... so even though GGg is Asian, he’s ‘white’ like my grandparents!” Don’t cry for me Argentina.

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                  • Divine Hammer
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by To Be Frank Doe
                    But you are. . The NSB vets know this.

                    I even let you breathe without mentioning GGG. You guys did the whole “Ward ducked GGG” thing too.

                    ggg beat canelo twice. that's real facts. and it wasn't until ggg looked human against jacobs that canelo finally decided to fight him after avoiding him for years hahahahaha shows how much of a cherry picking coward your hero is.

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