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  • Doubledagger
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    #11
    Originally posted by Quaccey
    Did he actually make any real offer for that fight to happen? I remember Kov calling him out and he never did anything besides theatrics.

    Ward would've been too much for him he beat the man who he was too afraid to fight against. If they would've fought he'd have 3 stoppage losses on his record.
    Kovalev has nothing to do with it. Why you mention him.

    Fact: Stevenson REPEATEDLY called out Ward for undisputed showdown.

    Fact 2: Ward did not respond and ran into retirement.

    Whether you think Ward would have won or not is inconsequential.

    I happen to think Jermall Charlo would have destroyed Daniel Jacobs if they fought. Doesn't change the fact that he ducked Jacobs, same way your opinion of Ward beating Stevenson doesn't change the fact he ducked the fight.

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    • Quaccey
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      #12
      Originally posted by Doubledagger
      Kovalev has nothing to do with it. Why you mention him.

      Fact: Stevenson REPEATEDLY called out Ward for undisputed showdown.

      Fact 2: Ward did not respond and ran into retirement.

      Whether you think Ward would have won or not is inconsequential.

      I happen to think Jermall Charlo would have destroyed Daniel Jacobs if they fought. Doesn't change the fact that he ducked Jacobs, same way your opinion of Ward beating Stevenson doesn't change the fact he ducked the fight.
      Charlo vs Jacobs is truly irrelevant. I mentioned Kov in my first post or did you not read it thoroughly? You don't fight the champ to run from a one handed fighter or is that something you don't realize.

      You go on and on about being called out if that's all it is doesn't mean much if an offer was never actually made, however if you don't recognize that not much more I'm willing to talk about with you.

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      • saopaulo
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        #13
        ward would excessively low blow him

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        • FightLikeABroad
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          #14
          Originally posted by RightJabLikeZab
          Adonis's one dimension wasn't enough to beat Ward.
          He wasn't one dimensional tho...

          He showed it later on, he had good footwork and he could jab.

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          • Doubledagger
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            #15
            Originally posted by Quaccey
            Charlo vs Jacobs is truly irrelevant. I mentioned Kov in my first post or did you not read it thoroughly? You don't fight the champ to run from a one handed fighter or is that something you don't realize.

            You go on and on about being called out if that's all it is doesn't mean much if an offer was never actually made, however if you don't recognize that not much more I'm willing to talk about with you.
            You have to get invited to the negotiation table first before you can make an offer. Can't make an offer if the guy won't even begin a conversation with you.

            Ward, when asked about the Stevenson call outs, dismissed the call outs and tried to play off Stevenson as someone who is irrelevant.

            You sound like one of those Keith Thurman fanboys saying "but Errol didn't send an offer though"

            How dedaq you gon send an offer to someone who outright dismisses the fight when asked about it? What's the point when he already made it clear he won't fight you?

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            • Boxing-1013
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              #16
              Ward much too big for Shakur. Also is his manager. Would never happen

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              • Ochoa780
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                #17
                Stevinson was a one handed fighter. Granted it was a bomb, ward thrives on taking away an opponents best weapon and being that it was his only weapon I dont see stevinson winning this

                Kovs straight, jab and timing is what gave ward a bunch of trouble even when he took one away kov would just go back to the other

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                • Quaccey
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Doubledagger
                  You have to get invited to the negotiation table first before you can make an offer. Can't make an offer if the guy won't even begin a conversation with you.

                  Ward, when asked about the Stevenson call outs, dismissed the call outs and tried to play off Stevenson as someone who is irrelevant.

                  You sound like one of those Keith Thurman fanboys saying "but Errol didn't send an offer though"

                  How dedaq you gon send an offer to someone who outright dismisses the fight when asked about it? What's the point when he already made it clear he won't fight you?
                  You don't fight the man to duck someone who's biggest win at that weight was Bellew. Stevenson was a good fighter, who called people out and made no real attempt something you seem so sprung on.

                  Its funny you talk a lot bull**** behind the keyboard "you sound like this you sound like that" no time for kid games stay with your opinions and I'll stay with mines. Instead of having the running debate let's keep the conversation where it should be, who'd win like most are doing.

                  Don't come at with me big kid **** save that for someone else.

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                  • Doubledagger
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Quaccey
                    You don't fight the man to duck someone who's biggest win at that weight was Bellew. Stevenson was a good fighter, who called people out and made no real attempt something you seem so sprung on.

                    Its funny you talk a lot bull**** behind the keyboard "you sound like this you sound like that" no time for kid games stay with your opinions and I'll stay with mines. Instead of having the running debate let's keep the conversation where it should be, who'd win like most are doing.

                    Don't come at with me big kid **** save that for someone else.
                    Since you're so strung up on contracts, are you aware that, long before Ward fought Kovalev, Adonis Stevenson did in fact send Andre Ward a contract.

                    They sent him a two fight contract when Ward was still at 168lbs. The contract stipulated that the first fight would be at Ward's weight of 168lbs with the rematch being at Stevenson's weight of 175lbs.

                    Naturally, your cowardly boy rejected the contract and didn't want nonw if that smoke, just like he didn't want to unfiy with Stevenson after moving up.

                    If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, rhen it most definitely is a duck.

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                      #20
                      Ward would’ve won an ugly close fight but might have buzzed and even dropped a few times.

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