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  • EatKnuckle
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    #11
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    Why wouldn't Usyk be worried? He was getting caught with clean shots by Chisora. He also doesn't have the power to hurt Joshua. Joshua will destroy him. But at least he'd get paid well.
    It´s possible, yes.

    Still if I were Usyk I´d fancy my chances against Joshua. Fury is a different kind of beast.

    But both Joshua (last 3 fights) and Fury (Wallin) have had their off nights too with substandard fights. One does wonder if Joshua left something in the ring in the first Ruiz fight.
    Last edited by EatKnuckle; 12-14-2020, 06:56 AM.

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    • Scopedog
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      #12
      Seems pretty ridiculous to put this into place. No point in having an undisputed champion if their reign as such is going to be 5 minutes. Might as well let the belt drop.

      Either way, if Usyk is going to fight for the vacant belt, I presume that it’d be against the #2 ranked WBO challenger. That’s Joe Joyce. If nothing else that’d be an interesting fight, so silver linings I guess.

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      • EatKnuckle
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        #13
        Originally posted by Scopedog
        Seems pretty ridiculous to put this into place. No point in having an undisputed champion if their reign as such is going to be 5 minutes. Might as well let the belt drop.

        Either way, if Usyk is going to fight for the vacant belt, I presume that it’d be against the #2 ranked WBO challenger. That’s Joe Joyce. If nothing else that’d be an interesting fight, so silver linings I guess.
        Plus it would set up a meaningful fight for the winner AJ vs. Fury.
        As a bonus - it would sideline Deontay - Excuse - Wilder.

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        • Kezzer
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          #14
          If Usyk fights Joyce for title a few weeks after the undisputed that surely solves the problem for everyone. WBO get paid twice too.

          It’s a likely outcome as long as WBO allow it... we know how these governing bodies work though and I wouldn’t get the hopes up!

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            #15
            Originally posted by EatKnuckle
            It´s possible, yes.

            Still if I were Usyk I´d fancy my chances against Joshua. Fury is a different kind of beast.

            But both Joshua (last 3 fights) and Fury (Wallin) have had their off nights too with substandard fights. One does wonder if Joshua left something in the ring in the first Ruiz fight.
            AJ more or less won every round against Pulev, he’s just learnt his lesson not to empty his tank unless he knows he can get the stoppage.

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            • EatKnuckle
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              #16
              Originally posted by Armchairhero
              AJ more or less won every round against Pulev, he’s just learnt his lesson not to empty his tank unless he knows he can get the stoppage.
              Yes he won almost every round, but he struggled against an ancient Pulev with a very flawed offense. Pulev has neither power nor variety in his punches.

              At times Joshua fights agressively on the front foot, then he looks good. He is not consistent though, maybe because of his bad engine.

              Imagine someone with power who could have capitalized on Joshuas bad stamina in round 4.

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              • Armchairhero
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                #17
                Originally posted by EatKnuckle
                Yes he won almost every round, but he struggled against an ancient Pulev with a very flawed offense. Pulev has neither power nor variety in his punches.

                At times Joshua fights agressively on the front foot, then he looks good. He is not consistent though, maybe because of his bad engine.

                Imagine someone with power who could have capitalized on Joshuas bad stamina in round 4.

                You mean the round that shouldn’t have happened as Pulev showed his back twice?

                He won every round even when taking a round or two off after the 3rd.

                Who at heavy looks more impressive? Don’t say fury as he went to hell and back against Wallin not too long ago.

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                • EatKnuckle
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Armchairhero
                  You mean the round that shouldn’t have happened as Pulev showed his back twice?

                  He won every round even when taking a round or two off after the 3rd.

                  Who at heavy looks more impressive? Don’t say fury as he went to hell and back against Wallin not too long ago.
                  I get your argument, but the fact that Joshua almost punched himself out remains valid. I guess that is why he fights in spurts - and he will get in trouble everytime he fights someone with a high output and good stamina (someone like Joyce).

                  I pointed out that Fury´s performance against Wallin was bad. I would still favour him highly against Joshua.

                  Unpopular opinion: The Heavyweight division is weak right now and even if you think Joshua is the leader of the pack he remains (in my eyes) a poor mans Klitschko.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by techliam
                    It’s not that simple though

                    The current arrangements are between Hearn, WBO and Usyk

                    If they step aside, and Fury wins, Fury has no contractual obligations with Usyk, nor should be be forced into any. So if he wins, and then vacates all of the titles which is likely, Usyk won’t get a shot at the Undisputed title
                    Gypsy-Bum is taking notes. Great post.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by EatKnuckle
                      Yes he won almost every round, but he struggled against an ancient Pulev with a very flawed offense. Pulev has neither power nor variety in his punches.

                      At times Joshua fights agressively on the front foot, then he looks good. He is not consistent though, maybe because of his bad engine.

                      Imagine someone with power who could have capitalized on Joshuas bad stamina in round 4.
                      Lol, it just shows most of you idiots neither watch fights nor have interest in boxing, apart from sucking off whichever boxer has the biggest hype.

                      No, Josh never had no stamina problems in that fight. He just threw too many punches in the 3rd round and had to re-gather himself in the 4th and not punch himself out. And that's the smart thing to do since Pulev doesn't look out of it.

                      Stop it - Usyk doesn't have Pulev's power and he definitely doesn't come anywhere close to Pulev in terms of boxing IQ and guts. I'd actually pick Pulev to beat Usyk or win 5 rds against him if they were to fight.

                      Pulev has the best jab in the division and I don't care who you're - he'll outjab you (he outjabbed Wlad as well in their fight). The fact that AJ took that away shows how good he's. And against a southpaw - the jab is the most potent weapon an orthodox boxer can use to keep them offbalance and set-up the straight-right down the pipe.

                      Stop chatting shiiit - you don't know ***** about boxing and have NEVER boxed in your life.

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