Comments Thread For: Dmitry Bivol: I Don't Want To Fight For The Sake of Fighting - I Want a 'Good Fight'

[Thuglife Nelo]

No way in the world does Alvared fight Bivol.🥊

Bivol beats everybody at 175, he probably beats Beterbiev also.

Gvozdyk was a technical and defensively sound fighter until Beterbiev broke him down.

Joe Smith Jr., Pascal, Barrera, none of these guys set their power up like Beterbiev. All of those guys, stylistically, don’t even hit to the body or take that risk. We have no idea how Bivol would respond to a blow to the gut from Beterbiev. Bivol, is highly athletic and a speedy mover, but getting hit on the body could disrupt all that and get broken down.

Depending how Canelo, if he beats Smith, or beats him by KO, which I hope to see, but I also got Canelo beating Bivol.

Some fighters you just don’t want to get hit to the gut by power punchers. It affects every bit of resetting no matter how fast you intend to be.

[tophat1]

Apparently, Bivol doesnt sell as many tickets in the UK as the UK guys do in the UK, or the Hispanics or Americans do in the US. Thats my guess why he isnt getting any fights vs any of the name UK or Hispanic and US boxers. They fed him a 2nd tier American name, Joe Smith Jr, just like they fed Kovalev, Lomachenko, and GGG 2nd tier American and Hispanic names and UK (Cedric Agnew, Nathan Cleverley, Rocky Martinez, Anthony Crolla, Rigondeaux, Walters, Linares, Curtis Stevens, Matthew Macklin, Martin Murray, Daniel Jacobs), but just like with Kovalev, Lomachenko, and GGG, the top tier American, Hispanic, and UK ticket sellers are either off limits completely or losses that use the foreign guy as a stepping stone to build the name of the other guy, rather than vice versa (Mikey Garcia, Tank Davis, Leo Santa Cruz, Abner Mares, Orlando Salido, Andre Ward, Canelo Alvarez, Jermall Charlo, etc etc. All these guys the east euros were either not able to fight at all, or lost to them. Zero wins).

In other words, Bivol is not allowed to fight the bigger names and win because the promoters don't want to trade a bigger name's undefeated brand for a smaller undefeated brand, and Bivol is not allowed to fight the big names and lose yet because it's not a big enough fight to be worth sacrificing his undefeated brand prematurely.

But most likely, his career is headed in that direction of being a stepping stone for maybe David Benavidez or someone like that moving up to 175 in the future. But maybe it's possible, if Beterbiev passes the torch to Bivol and not to an American or Hispanic or UK fighter (which is what usually happens, but maybe because Beterbiev isn't a big name either, they will do like cruiserweight and stack the east euro names into one folder to create one star, like Usyk, who will probably pass the torch to an American or Hispanic or UK in the future now that he's built up star power, instead of passing the torch to one right away before the torch is well lit...), that Bivol could become enough of a ticket seller to be "the guy" at 175. But since that wasn't the case for GGG or Kovalev or Loma, it's hard to imagine it will be for Bivol, who seems less popular than any of those prior guys, because those prior guys were all built over the long term on HBO, while Bivol only got a few showcases at the very end of HBO's run, and his exposure on HBO was probably not even 40% of the other comparables.

In other words, don't get too attached to Bivol, that's my advice. He may have speed and power, but he lacks the only talent in pro boxing that matters. He doesn't sell PPVs, or even tickets, in big economic markets, very well.

That's a fair point. I think dazn went on a spree of trying to sign top fighters without a clear plan of what to do with them

[_Rexy_]

Massively. He fought Lenin Castillo after beating Joe Smith. Joe Smith on the other hand fought Hart, Alvarez and will be fighting Vlasov for the vacant WBO. If he beats him he will unify with Beterbiev.

What the hell kinda **** is that?

not to mention he beat Jean Pascal and then Pascal took secondary belts off of Marcus Browne and Badou Jack in his next two fights.


Hearn is ****ing terrible.

[Superbee]

This guy is more then willing to take your belt..

[Phill lynott]

I think Bivol is one of the most talented fighters at 175. I also belive Ramirez is going to show he is the best at 175. To do that they both must face each other. Hopefully soon. Zurdo vs Bivol is the best fight in boxing there is to be made. Hands down! If you know styles and fighters you know what I'm talking about. If you want to be a paper matchmaker then don't bother trying to figure it out.