Mike Tyson on ESPN Classic

[Dr Cynical]

Sorry for making you guys aware of it a bit late.
But, I just found out that it was on.

[NexBesThang]

what channel is that?

[Dr Cynical]

what channel is that?

I don't know, it's different depending on areas and cable services.

[Verstyle]

i think its on espn classic

[GreatestIam]

been watching for a grip but ive seen all the TYSON fights so who cares.... Even if you havent you all know Tyson Koed like everybody except Quick tillis and like 5-6..7.8 others before the lost to Douglas!

[shortright]

danm he was amazing just watched the berbick fight, if he stayed with rooney dominace would of contiued

[Cutthroat]

Those Tyson things are always on

[GreatestIam]

danm he was amazing just watched the berbick fight, if he stayed with rooney dominace would of contiued

if he stayed with ROONEY 1 Rooney would be a skinny **** still2 tyson would have held the belt longer then anyone else 3 Tyson would either be a champ or the best contender right now still!

[Abe Attell]

Maybe Tyson got rid of Rooney because he was looking to sabotage his career, consciously or subconsciously, it doesn't matter: I am not sure Tyson really “wanted it” after he won all the titles. I mean, from what I read/heard, D’Amato wanted Tyson to be the World Champion at 20, so Tyson (wanting to please Cus) fulfilled that dream/destiny...when Cus died, maybe a piece of Tyson died, and by the time he won all the titles he decided "I did what I was supposed to, now I want to live my life". But how would Tyson get out, did he even know how to? How does a fighter so young, healthy, with the world in the palm of his hands, say to the people, “I retire”?
I don't know there are so many indications that Tyson never wanted to be a fighter, but became one because it was better than being a street thug. Wasn't Tyson supposed to be a bit of a "*****" before getting his name known from beating up a kid? If I had to take a guess, I would say that Tyson didn’t want to be a fighter, but when he beat the **** out of that kid, it was an acceptance every male kid wants from his peers: the acceptance of showing and looking like a “Man” in front of everybody. Not sure if Tyson enjoyed cracking the **** out the people he mugged, but maybe a part of him didn’t like it, and a part of him did: the part that didn’t like it was the boy that hung around girls instead of the mean thugs on the street; the boys that teased him and he despised; The part that did like it, may have liked the attention from the other boys for being this ruthless thug. This part of him also wanted to show his anger to the world for leaving him in such a situation.
I don’t know, just a thought…I don’t know what Tyson was thinking. Tyson is a bit confusing looking from the outside: Is he just this nice kid deep down inside that just wanted to be accepted, and to please those that “liked” him, but ended up hurting those around him including himself in the process? {Which might include why he stayed the Heavyweight Champion even if he didn’t want it, to be “TYSON” to the world that wanted him; he played this character that became “IRON MIKE TYSON”.
Maybe he was he was just a “Con-man” taking us all for a ride? Fooling us with his this show called “Tyson”, and taking our money in the process. You want him to be nice, he will be nice; you want him to be mean, he will be mean. The guy does give off some mix signals, and is either some or all of which has been told in papers and interviews.
But, isn’t this what we wanted: A poverty stricken kid, that finds the wise old man, becomes Champion while suffering tragedy in the process by losing everybody he cared about, with the World seemingly at his feet, he then spins out of control, winding up back where he started?
With the people who will still adore him for the time he was great, remembering those moments…with the people that remember how great he was, but hate that he seemingly threw it all away…the ones that saw he was great or at least had the potential to be great, but deny any of his ability, so to feel better about themselves by not being let down…and of course, those that hate any thing that people say is “Great” and when he fails, they feel better about themselves with saying “I knew it, I told you so, he was overrated”

Funny how if true (that he didn't want to be champion anymore), that he loses to a fighter that was seen as an underachiever/unmotivated, that ended up fighting with motivation for this one fight, in memory of his mother, to fulfill his promise that he was going to be Champion, while Tyson, no longer motivated because he already fulfilled his promise to be Champion, shows up out of shape and unmotivated.
Maybe true, maybe not, but it is a hell of a story no matter what

[BKM-]

Maybe Tyson got rid of Rooney because he was looking to sabotage his career, consciously or subconsciously, it doesn't matter: I am not sure Tyson really “wanted it” after he won all the titles. I mean, from what I read/heard, D’Amato wanted Tyson to be the World Champion at 20, so Tyson (wanting to please Cus) fulfilled that dream/destiny...when Cus died, maybe a piece of Tyson died, and by the time he won all the titles he decided "I did what I was supposed to, now I want to live my life". But how would Tyson get out, did he even know how to? How does a fighter so young, healthy, with the world in the palm of his hands, say to the people, “I retire”?
I don't know there are so many indications that Tyson never wanted to be a fighter, but became one because it was better than being a street thug. Wasn't Tyson supposed to be a bit of a "*****" before getting his name known from beating up a kid? If I had to take a guess, I would say that Tyson didn’t want to be a fighter, but when he beat the **** out of that kid, it was an acceptance every male kid wants from his peers: the acceptance of showing and looking like a “Man” in front of everybody. Not sure if Tyson enjoyed cracking the **** out the people he mugged, but maybe a part of him didn’t like it, and a part of him did: the part that didn’t like it was the boy that hung around girls instead of the mean thugs on the street; the boys that teased him and he despised; The part that did like it, may have liked the attention from the other boys for being this ruthless thug. This part of him also wanted to show his anger to the world for leaving him in such a situation.
I don’t know, just a thought…I don’t know what Tyson was thinking. Tyson is a bit confusing looking from the outside: Is he just this nice kid deep down inside that just wanted to be accepted, and to please those that “liked” him, but ended up hurting those around him including himself in the process? {Which might include why he stayed the Heavyweight Champion even if he didn’t want it, to be “TYSON” to the world that wanted him; he played this character that became “IRON MIKE TYSON”.
Maybe he was he was just a “Con-man” taking us all for a ride? Fooling us with his this show called “Tyson”, and taking our money in the process. You want him to be nice, he will be nice; you want him to be mean, he will be mean. The guy does give off some mix signals, and is either some or all of which has been told in papers and interviews.
But, isn’t this what we wanted: A poverty stricken kid, that finds the wise old man, becomes Champion while suffering tragedy in the process by losing everybody he cared about, with the World seemingly at his feet, he then spins out of control, winding up back where he started?
With the people who will still adore him for the time he was great, remembering those moments…with the people that remember how great he was, but hate that he seemingly threw it all away…the ones that saw he was great or at least had the potential to be great, but deny any of his ability, so to feel better about themselves by not being let down…and of course, those that hate any thing that people say is “Great” and when he fails, they feel better about themselves with saying “I knew it, I told you so, he was overrated”

Funny how if true (that he didn't want to be champion anymore), that he loses to a fighter that was seen as an underachiever/unmotivated, that ended up fighting with motivation for this one fight, in memory of his mother, to fulfill his promise that he was going to be Champion, while Tyson, no longer motivated because he already fulfilled his promise to be Champion, shows up out of shape and unmotivated.
Maybe true, maybe not, but it is a hell of a story no matter what

I should post this like its an article at Tysons personal website. Its a good read. Can i do that?