for all those crying about the price of last nights ppv

[DaNeutral.]

ask yourself this honest question...and answer it honestly...i know you wont or arent capable so ill do it for you

if bob arum had the pbcs roster of WWs and bud crawford was the lone wolf over at the pbc...do you think bob would look at bud crawford and try to make a fight?

heres the answer...he wouldnt....we all know this is 100 percent true and fact

the pbc doesnt **** with bud because they dont need to..they have a bunch of interesting, intriguing, fights to make right there with their own guys'

it has nothing to do with thinking they cant bead bud...if they dont think they can beat bud now what makes you think theyll think it a year or two from now?NOTHING! youre an idiot if you think thats a reason...if your belief is they dont think they can beat him now what makes them think theyll ever beat him! especially if their own fighters arent fighting him? whos going to soften him up for the pbc? lol...your own words dont logically make any sense...its just drivel you dont even believe

So you admit the PBC has no interest in the best fighting the best and champions unifying divisions because there's plenty of in house fights to make instead which means they don't have to deal with rival promoters and their champions?

And you wonder why I am complaining as a Boxing fan? I am a fan of both Crawford and Spence, it's the best fight to make at 147 and you have just said they are doing exactly what gets my goat about the PBC.

Arum doing the same thing now with Haney and Bob is a cvnt for doing it and he's doing it for the exact same chicken reason.

I understand promoters don't want their champions falling to fighters with rival promoters but this is still a sport to us fans. It's business to them but it's still sport.

No wonder the sport is dwindling in the States, no wonder old timers like Mike Tyson and Roy Jones prove the market is still out there for big PPV sales. When you see what they did don't you wonder whats going wrong with the current crop for sales to be so much lower?

Not making the big fights at the right time is a big factor and now is the time for Spence v Crawford and has been for a couple of years.

[b00g13man]

because you could simply move on to something else....

its ok to mention it in passing in real life...to a friend...a relative...or whoever...but when you login to complain about the price of something i think you must fret over money....i realize most people fret over money but i dont really get it...

if al haymon, who btw is successful at what he does, thought people wouldnt pay for it he wouldnt do it that way...he obviously still sees something in the ppv model.....people pay for stuff....if you cant afford it move on

im not wealthy...theres tons of **** i cant afford...i dont complain about...its my lot in life

Ah! So this is Haymon fanboy thread. My bad. Keep doing you.

[The Big Dunn]

I don't hate the PBC because its run by Haymon, I hate the way Haymon runs the PBC. You ain't guna make it racial I hope, the old I hate Haymon cuz I don't want to see a black man succeed crap.

I also hate Bob Arum, he does the same **** as Haymon, latest example he is now looking to protect Teo Lopez from Haney just like Haymon is doing with Spence. It's just that Haymon is doing it all the time across the divisions.

How can you hate the way he runs a successful company? He’s giving you solid fights and really strong cards.

There definitely is a racial component to the hate haymon gets.

Haney and Teo both just fought. What you should have complained vociferously about was Arum protecting Loma from Haney and Berchelt to ensure the big money Teo/Loma fight. To not complain about or acknowledge that is exactly the point I am making.

You don’t ever seem to go at TR or DAZN with the same negative energy you do pbc.

[sicko]

Internet Boxing Fans don't buy PPV's a promoter would have to be Super ****** to try and sell fights to the Misfits on this Forum! No but for FOX, the Target Audience is NOT the Hardcore, the Target Audience are the Casual Sports Fans which is why they Run Promos during NFL Sunday which gets HUGE Ratings

[DaNeutral.]

How can you hate the way he runs a successful company? He’s giving you solid fights and really strong cards.

There definitely is a racial component to the hate haymon gets.

Haney and Teo both just fought. What you should have complained vociferously about was Arum protecting Loma from Haney and Berchelt to ensure the big money Teo/Loma fight. To not complain about or acknowledge that is exactly the point I am making.

You don’t ever seem to go at TR or DAZN with the same negative energy you do pbc.

I'm a Boxing fan not a business fan. I want champions fighting champions, Spence and the PBC are clear as day avoiding Bud Crawford. Just like Arum and Lopez are avoiding Haney and I've had plenty to say on that matter too.

Good for Al, he is blocking the best fights to make acceptable fights and getting rich off it. Good business. But I'm not a fan of Al Haymons Bank balance in a fan of the sport of Boxing and any honest Boxing fan just wants the best fighting the best and the best at 147 are Crawford and Spence.

Haven't you noticed the only ppl who don't want that fight are PBC Spence fans. Near enough EVERY other Boxing fan wants that fight.

And you need to stop the racial element BS. You come across as racist thinking like that. Haven't you noticed all the African Americans saying the same thing I'm.saying? It's cuz they are just Boxing fans just like me.

[DaNeutral.]

ask yourself this honest question...and answer it honestly...i know you wont or arent capable so ill do it for you

if bob arum had the pbcs roster of WWs and bud crawford was the lone wolf over at the pbc...do you think bob would look at bud crawford and try to make a fight?

heres the answer...he wouldnt....we all know this is 100 percent true and fact

the pbc doesnt **** with bud because they dont need to..they have a bunch of interesting, intriguing, fights to make right there with their own guys'

it has nothing to do with thinking they cant bead bud...if they dont think they can beat bud now what makes you think theyll think it a year or two from now?NOTHING! youre an idiot if you think thats a reason...if your belief is they dont think they can beat him now what makes them think theyll ever beat him! especially if their own fighters arent fighting him? whos going to soften him up for the pbc? lol...your own words dont logically make any sense...its just drivel you dont even believe

How can you make up a hypothetical question that has an answer based on opinion and then call it a fact? By all means call it likely or highly likely, based on Arums actions with his own fighters i would agree that it is likely.

And in that scenario id just ask you to imagine me saying the EXACT same things I'm saying now but change Haymon for Arum and PBC for Top Rank.

But Spence isn't Top Rank he is PBC.

[Dr. Frank]

all of your desperate pleas for help and more money wont help...al haymon and the pbc arent going anywhere i hate to break it...i know its gonna hurt your fragile psyche

al haymon isnt dumb...hes pretty successful and good at what he does...if he thought ppv was dumb and on the way out he would be out of it...it may change...he may come to that conclusion and change course...but he also might not...deal with it

people wanted to see how spence would look after that accident....there was demand...stay broke and crying about money....not me i make enough of it...watched at a friends house...he paid for it

anyways...enjoy andrade vs luke keeler...and watching a 6-6 adonis try to avoid his embarrasing loss to a 6ft tub of lard while running from the guy with a less than desirable BMI all night....your broke ass gets what you pay for...but im sure theres a real intriguing devin farmer fight coming up for your 10 bucks

You don't sound like a paid shill at all.

[Real King Kong]

I did not buy the ppv...and lol@ the bitter overtone of the op.

[Boro]

i dont need to shill for anyone or anything...it doesnt make me money

idc if you think it was worth it or not...if it wasnt then move on...dont cry about it....keep it moving and move on to something worth your while or productive

"wahhhhh that wasnt worth it..if i keep crying about it al haymon might go out of business which is what i really hope for wahhhhhhh"

I have no horse in the race being for the UK but I'm telling you now that it's not worth $80 dollars regardless of being able to afford it or not, "crying" as you put it is beneficial to a company, if I don't know what I'm doing wrong in the eyes of my customers how can I put it right and improve upon it for the future? surely this concept isn't lost on you or maybe it is?

[The Big Dunn]

I'm a Boxing fan not a business fan. I want champions fighting champions, Spence and the PBC are clear as day avoiding Bud Crawford. Just like Arum and Lopez are avoiding Haney and I've had plenty to say on that matter too.

Good for Al, he is blocking the best fights to make acceptable fights and getting rich off it. Good business. But I'm not a fan of Al Haymons Bank balance in a fan of the sport of Boxing and any honest Boxing fan just wants the best fighting the best and the best at 147 are Crawford and Spence.

Haven't you noticed the only ppl who don't want that fight are PBC Spence fans. Near enough EVERY other Boxing fan wants that fight.

And you need to stop the racial element BS. You come across as racist thinking like that. Haven't you noticed all the African Americans saying the same thing I'm.saying? It's cuz they are just Boxing fans just like me.

When they talked to Bob and Crawford they both openly talked about the manny fight being next for Crawford.

Yet you are here suggesting it’s pbc that is blocking the fight.

When you talk about Loma avoiding Berchelt and Haney or ggg avoiding Andrade, the I will take you more seriously.

Yes, there is a racial element. Look at you. You talk about Haney/ Teo, when both just had a fight. How in the hell is that fight being blocked right now?

The blocking in that division was arum blocking Loma/Haney and Loma/Berchelt. You will not call him out for that.

You call out pbc yet stay silent as ggg fight some garbage bum and Andrade fights some bum rather than each other.

When pbc wasn’t Doing unification fights you were all over them.

You’re not fooling anyone.