Errol Spence throws shade at a certain someone's choice of opponents

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  • DaNeutral.
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    #21
    Maybe Spence should fight Crawford. Theres an idea. Instead of throwing shade and running maybe fight him.

    Bud wants to fight Spence, Spence wants Bud to fight anybody but him.

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      #22
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      Spence fights and beats much better welterweights than Crawford does. Who has Crawford fought at 147 who is as good as Mikey, Danny or Shawn? NOBODY!
      Don't you think it's a little soon to be giving Spence credit for beating Danny Garcia? Are you a time traveller or something? As for fights that he's actually already won, Porter was good but it was very close and the Mikey fight was a farcical mismatch from the moment it was proposed. Honestly Spence didn't live up to expectations in that by failing to knock him out. Garcia was an excellent lightweight but he doesn't belong at welterweight. I think Crawford's win over Jose Benavidez Jr. was maybe a little less impressive than the Porter win but miles more impressive than the Mikey win.

      Honestly I don't see why people think Spence's record is so much better than Crawford's, because if you actually look at it it's really not. Considering how heavily hyped up he's been ever since he took the IBF belt from Kell Brook in mid 2017, he's only really started taking fights that live up to that hype since late 2019 when he fought Porter. Him following that up by fighting Danny is a big step in the right direction, but honestly he should have been seeking those kind of fights back when he became champion, not fighting unknowns like Carlos Ocampo or has-beens like Lamont Peterson, or taking part in ridiculous mismatches like the one against Mikey. He doesn't have the excuse of having been on "the wrong side of the street" like Crawford either, he's been part of PBC's stacked roster all this time.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Hustle
        Danny 147 resume

        Spence TBD
        Porter He lost
        Thurman He lost
        Guerrero
        Malignaggi A blatant cherry pick at the time
        Rios ...Come on man.
        Granados


        Khan 147 resume

        Crawford He lost
        Alexander He should have lost
        Dib ...Come on man.
        Collazo
        Lo Greco
        Algieri He should have lost

        Danny resume is clearly better
        No, I don't see "clearly" better at all.

        If we go by what's in the history books ("at the end of the day", their hand was raised), I'm still giving it to Khan.

        Khan lost ONCE at 147; Danny's lost twice and possibly may lose a third.


        Originally posted by DaNeutral.
        Bud wants to fight Spence, Spence wants Bud to fight anybody but him.
        Crawford doesn't want Spence.

        You don't show you want a guy with two belts by asking him for 60% with one belt.

        Besides, Spence never said he won't fight Crawford. He said:




        Meaning, had Crawford done the right thing and faced Danny and Porter (you know, like Spence is now doing) when he had the chance, maybe Crawford would be raking in 300k+ buys. Instead, he'd rather fight unranked Kell Brook.

        Ok, but that doesn't earn you the top guy.

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          #24
          Originally posted by revelated
          No, I don't see "clearly" better at all.

          If we go by what's in the history books ("at the end of the day", their hand was raised), I'm still giving it to Khan.

          Khan lost ONCE at 147; Danny's lost twice and possibly may lose a third.




          Crawford doesn't want Spence.

          You don't show you want a guy with two belts by asking him for 60% with one belt.

          Besides, Spence never said he won't fight Crawford. He said:




          Meaning, had Crawford done the right thing and faced Danny and Porter (you know, like Spence is now doing) when he had the chance, maybe Crawford would be raking in 300k+ buys. Instead, he'd rather fight unranked Kell Brook.

          Ok, but that doesn't earn you the top guy.

          LOL here we go again saying Bud should fight lots of names before Spence. What's he scared of? What you scared of? What's with the road block?

          Its the big fight of the division, everybody knows it, only Spence fans calling for Crawford to fight anybody not called Spence.

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            #25
            Originally posted by DaNeutral.
            LOL here we go again saying Bud should fight lots of names before Spence.
            I don't know why I keep having to repeat what you already know.


            In the BUSINESS of boxing, guys are prize fighters.

            At the upper echelon, you should be demanding that guys fight top names.

            That list is as follows - in terms of the BUSINESS of boxing:

            Manny Pacquiao
            Errol Spence
            Shawn Porter
            Keef Thurman
            Danny Garcia
            Adrien Broner
            Mikey Garcia
            Jesse Vargas
            Josesito Lopez
            Virgil Ortiz


            I'm not talking about who looks more skilled or who gets knockouts or who passes the 'eye test'.

            I am talking about WHO DRAWS MONEY.

            Now, those guys that draw money, want to fight other guys that draw money, so they can make more money.

            Crawford is not a DRAW!

            DO you know why he's not a draw?

            Because he refused to fight any of those I listed. Yes, even Manny and Spence, because he priced himself out.

            He had a chance - and still does - to fight guys that draw money, still top guys in the BUSINESS of boxing - so that he can pass beyond 'eye test' and be considered legit. That's Danny, Keef, Porter, or Virgil Ortiz.

            Of that list, three of them have called Crawford out and he has refused.

            Fans like you justify it because "he wants Spence!" Without earning it, and then priced himself out when it was offered.

            Meanwhile, poor Bob Arum is trying his hardest to make Crawford worth the money, but can't because Crawford refuses to do what's necessary in the BUSINESS of boxing to EARN a Spence fight:




            And do you know why he doesn't want to fight Shawn? This is why:





            Crawford is afraid of losing to Porter before getting Spence.

            That's the truth, bro. And it's fair, because it's a strong possibility.

            What I want is for you fans to admit that's the truth. You want him to fight Spence before he takes an L elsewhere.

            Great.

            Tell your boy to stop pricing himself out and accept B-Side money like Floyd had to do against Oscar.

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              #26
              Originally posted by revelated
              I don't know why I keep having to repeat what you already know.


              In the BUSINESS of boxing, guys are prize fighters.

              At the upper echelon, you should be demanding that guys fight top names.

              That list is as follows - in terms of the BUSINESS of boxing:

              Manny Pacquiao
              Errol Spence
              Shawn Porter
              Keef Thurman
              Danny Garcia
              Adrien Broner
              Mikey Garcia
              Jesse Vargas
              Josesito Lopez
              Virgil Ortiz


              I'm not talking about who looks more skilled or who gets knockouts or who passes the 'eye test'.

              I am talking about WHO DRAWS MONEY.

              Now, those guys that draw money, want to fight other guys that draw money, so they can make more money.

              Crawford is not a DRAW!

              DO you know why he's not a draw?

              Because he refused to fight any of those I listed. Yes, even Manny and Spence, because he priced himself out.

              He had a chance - and still does - to fight guys that draw money, still top guys in the BUSINESS of boxing - so that he can pass beyond 'eye test' and be considered legit. That's Danny, Keef, Porter, or Virgil Ortiz.

              Of that list, three of them have called Crawford out and he has refused.

              Fans like you justify it because "he wants Spence!" Without earning it, and then priced himself out when it was offered.

              Meanwhile, poor Bob Arum is trying his hardest to make Crawford worth the money, but can't because Crawford refuses to do what's necessary in the BUSINESS of boxing to EARN a Spence fight:




              And do you know why he doesn't want to fight Shawn? This is why:





              Crawford is afraid of losing to Porter before getting Spence.

              That's the truth, bro. And it's fair, because it's a strong possibility.

              What I want is for you fans to admit that's the truth. You want him to fight Spence before he takes an L elsewhere.

              Great.

              Tell your boy to stop pricing himself out and accept B-Side money like Floyd had to do against Oscar.
              So basically you want the PBC to play their game of chess. Hide the king behind the pawns. Let Bud fight all these PBC none champions instead of another champion. I think Spence, the PBC and you fan gimps are scared of Crawford. You want to see him face anybody but Spence
              and are using some wanky PPV numbers to hide behind as an excuse. Spence aint no PPV star, he does better numbers than Bud but they ain't that impressive.

              PBC fan gimps are right, you boys are playing chess. But this is Boxi g and a king should come to fight not get protected by a bunch of Pawns. I think you and all the other gimps and Massa Al the slave master k ows damn well that Crawford crushes Spence. Otherwise he would be brave and bring him out for fight.

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                #27
                Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                So basically you want the PBC to play their game of chess. Hide the king behind the pawns. Let Bud fight all these PBC none champions instead of another champion. I think Spence, the PBC and you fan gimps are scared of Crawford. You want to see him face anybody but Spence
                and are using some wanky PPV numbers to hide behind as an excuse. Spence aint no PPV star, he does better numbers than Bud but they ain't that impressive.

                PBC fan gimps are right, you boys are playing chess. But this is Boxi g and a king should come to fight not get protected by a bunch of Pawns. I think you and all the other gimps and Massa Al the slave master k ows damn well that Crawford crushes Spence. Otherwise he would be brave and bring him out for fight.
                You're irrational, and not accepting facts.

                Keef fought Danny, Manny and Shawn.

                Shawn fought Keef, Danny and Spence.

                Spence has fought Porter and Mikey and is now about to fight Danny, may fight Keef.

                Manny has fought Keef and may fight Mikey.


                Why is it that only Crawford - ONLY HE - shouldn't have to go through tough opposition to earn fights?

                Why do you justify this?

                Why does that make any damn sense to you?

                Because you're biased for Crawford and you refuse to accept that everyone else is putting in work BUT him. You're a lost cause.

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