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  • Citizen Koba
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    #41
    Originally posted by PredatorStyle
    Ok it looks like I was wrong. I took that data from mortality.org, compared some years from the 1st week to the 45th week. Here is the data:

    2017 - 458619
    2018 - 470066
    2019 - 453281
    2020 - 517665

    So quite a big jump, overall. I'm not sure how much of that was covid, but that's as far as I go down that rabbit hole.
    Apologies I'd not actually got round to doing any checking over yet, but I'd honestly be very surprised if there was significant innaccuracies here... I'm not gonna claim specific expertise myself, in fact I was basically just a slightly precocious dogsbody at the time (many, many years ago) but I have worked in two seperate public health and epidemiology research departments, including a stint working under one of the current directors at NIHR... point being I know how this kinda epidemiological research is carried out and the kinda people involved and whilst no-one is perfect in general these are good and consciencious academics just doing the best job they can.

    Course... politicians are another story, don't trust those mfers any further than I can throw 'em.

    There is genuine room for debate though, COVID response absolutely ain't a size fits all thing, and the optimum response will depend on many different factors relating to the strength of a countries welfare system, the kinda savings or credit available to the population, how many people are living hand to mouth and significantly how much strain the healthcare services can take... add to that the it's worth remembering this whole affair has been in part folk figuring it out as they go along. It's easy to assume the authorities and academia to be some omniscent force who knew what they were doing right from the start but in fact it's been more a desperate scranmble to devise best policy based on severely incomplete information as well as pandering to public concerns and trying to keep economies going.

    And of course there's a very real argument that resources devoted to treating COVID patients lead to more deaths elsewhere, and that taking away peoples opportunities to earn a living can lead to higher mortality too, most especially in the poorest countries so there's really no simple equation that can inform a particular country or region how best to tackle the crisis.

    IDK whether the various world governments have done the best job they could - probably they've fallen signifcantly short - but I think it's likely most of them have genuinely tried even though it's very clear that opportunistic nepotism has reared it's head worldwide in the doling out of contracts for services and PPE to favoured friends and corporations... some shet never changes, man.
    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 12-04-2020, 06:26 AM.

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    • Fire4231
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      #42
      Originally posted by VashDBasher
      Nobody is telling you that have to be outraged by it, but it seems that you’re clearly compliant with the corruption that goes in boxing. Don’t complain when your favorite fighter is on the receiving end of an unjustified decision.
      No **** boy, I just saw a Heavyweight climb into the ring with PEDs and loaded gloves and almost murder a good family man who was the star of the Division. Then as sinisterly all of the boxing establishment pretended as people were crazy for believing their eyes.

      But this itty bitty injustice comes around and they act like we should be in the streets fighting against fire hoses.

      Hey bro open your eyes. I am not marching for any reason with the same boxing entity creating the corruption I despise.

      It’s like whooping someones @ss and then telling everyone after, hey the violence around here just needs to stop. You sound ridiculously entitled.

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