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  • #91
    The real question here is why are you even bringing this past crap back up

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    • #92
      Originally posted by NC Uppercut View Post
      The real question here is why are you even bringing this past crap back up
      Because its a boxing forum and Manny fanboys want to hold onto what today is clearly BS, if you want to shut up a fool get in his face with fact they will run off as sure as eggs just a matter of time.

      Its as clear as day Mannys management didnt want the fight in those days, I would bet Arum told Manny a pile of BS, and that hit home when Floyd met him personally at the ballgame, it came out Manny said he wasnt aware of what wasnt put to him.

      Arum is doing the same sht right now with TC, he is promising him Manny and feeding him BS.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
        Team Pac knew about the testing 6 wks before, it was in the first draft of proposals give to Arum, the question remains how did Floyd know he would say no , we all know the answer he couldnt have known, and that saying NO stopped the fight from happening then, you are trying to justify saying NO to advanced random Ped testing.

        Schaefer said the issue was included in the first draft of the proposal, about six weeks ago, but the divide became public Tuesday, when Mayweather’s camp issued a news release.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/24/sports/24boxing.html

        I will find where Roach acknowledges it and says no problems and then they said no.

        You are thinking like a little kid and not adding up the evidence just jumping from one nothing story to another, add it ALL up and there is only one conclusion, Team Pac used the PED testing demand to avoid the fight during 2009 to 2011 .



        https://www.si.com/boxing/2015/04/28...ao-negotations
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        It was clear that both boxers wanted the fight too. Stephen Espinoza, then a lawyer for Golden Boy and now the executive vice president of Showtime Sports, recalls a call from a Top Rank lawyer a few days before Christmas. One more thing, the lawyer said. Manny would like a weight penalty: $10 million for every pound over the 147-pound limit. "To me," says Espinoza, "it was an ask designed to blow up the fight." He relayed the request to then Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer, fully expecting it to be rejected. Fifteen minutes later Schaefer called back with a yes.

        Drug testing, however, was a real obstacle. According to DuBoef, random blood and urine testing hadn't been part of negotiations. "It just showed up in a contract," he says. Mayweather's side tells a different story: Blood testing was in the original draft; Top Rank just kept deleting it, and when presented to Pacquiao, it was rejected, on account of the fighter's fear of needles. "That was funny," says Leonard Ellerbe, CEO of Mayweather Promotions, "because he has tattoos." Eventually Pacquiao agreed to testing—within limits.

        The bottom line is. Manny agreed to all. Say it again. All of Floyd's ost demands in 2010. Way before 2012.
        Theres proof to back that up. That settles the thread starters question.

        To make it stick even further he sued Floyd in court and Floyd's camp settled out of court with a public apology. From that point Floyd put up Roadblock after roadblock because he didn't want that 2010 smoke. It'll be alright Floyd boy, he wanted to fight a low risk version of Manny anyway.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
          Because its a boxing forum and Manny fanboys want to hold onto what today is clearly BS, if you want to shut up a fool get in his face with fact they will run off as sure as eggs just a matter of time.

          Its as clear as day Mannys management didnt want the fight in those days, I would bet Arum told Manny a pile of BS, and that hit home when Floyd met him personally at the ballgame, it came out Manny said he wasnt aware of what wasnt put to him.

          Arum is doing the same sht right now with TC, he is promising him Manny and feeding him BS.
          Floyd didn't want the fight in 2010. He rather divert the attention to assassinating the man's character
          with no evidence.
          Then years later still no incriminating evidence, but oops he's got an illegal IV needle hanging out his arm, and a gym full of cheats. And you feel compelled to defend him with excuses.
          Last edited by djtmal; 11-30-2020, 11:44 PM.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
            Because its a boxing forum and Manny fanboys want to hold onto what today is clearly BS, if you want to shut up a fool get in his face with fact they will run off as sure as eggs just a matter of time.

            Its as clear as day Mannys management didnt want the fight in those days, I would bet Arum told Manny a pile of BS, and that hit home when Floyd met him personally at the ballgame, it came out Manny said he wasnt aware of what wasnt put to him.

            Arum is doing the same sht right now with TC, he is promising him Manny and feeding him BS.
            Well if Floyd would have just beat all of these guys in their prime, maybe you wouldn't feel a need to defend all the f**kery.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by djtmal View Post
              The bottom line is. Manny agreed to all. Say it again. All of Floyd's ost demands in 2010. Way before 2012.
              Theres proof to back that up. That settles the thread starters question.

              To make it stick even further he sued Floyd in court and Floyd's camp settled out of court with a public apology. From that point Floyd put up Roadblock after roadblock because he didn't want that 2010 smoke. It'll be alright Floyd boy, he wanted to fight a low risk version of Manny anyway.
              The bottom line he didnt agree, he wanted a cut of date, that is not agreeing. Not hard to understand this very basic concept.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
                The bottom line he didnt agree, he wanted a cut of date, that is not agreeing. Not hard to understand this very basic concept.
                No he didn't have to agree to all the way to the fight. At least not initially. Thats not totally on Manny sorry. He wasn't some nobody that Floyd could manipulate. At least prior to getting ko'd by Marquez.
                A cut off date was on the table, Manny started at 24 days, then he agreed to 14 days that was enough. He was clearly trying to make the fight happen. Anything past 14 days that was clearly Floyd's issue. The dude obviously was too scared even with ost's, he was doing everything to not make the fight happen give it a rest.
                Last edited by djtmal; 12-01-2020, 12:26 AM.

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                • #98
                  Why did Pacquiao make Brandon Rios do VADA drug testing with no cutoff dates?

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                  • #99
                    Man. I think any credible boxing forum should put a ban on pac vs floyd threads lol..

                    Come on yall its over, they are both great fighters.

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                    • Originally posted by Monzon99 View Post
                      Are you dumb enough to not realize phloyd used the test demands to block the fight?



                      Are you dumb enough to not realize Manny could have simply taken the harmless blood test... JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DID?

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