Why did Frank Warren sign so many Pakistani boxers on to his roster?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • OldTimers
    Amateur
    Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
    • Nov 2020
    • 7
    • 0
    • 0
    • 1,640

    #1

    Why did Frank Warren sign so many Pakistani boxers on to his roster?

    I've noticed there has been a huge rise of British born Pakistani boxers rising in the European leagues and especially in the domestic British circuit, a lot more than 10 years ago. Frank Warren just signed 6 Pakistanis on to his roster, with almost 300 boxers winning national leagues, titles, and European titles

    The 6 Pakistanis on the list are

    Hamzah Sheeraz, WBO super welterweight European champion


    Sahir Iqbal

    Sahir Iqbal is a welterweight (70 kg) boxer from England. Born on May 9, 1996, Sahir lives in Bolton, Lancashire.

    With his elder brothers boxing, Sahir also caught the sporting bug at the age of nine. Taking a love to boxing, Sahir also familiar as Saz began fighting from Bury Amateur Boxing Club.

    Sahir was very successful at the amateur level. He was a national champion five-times. Sahir was also a European silver medallist, along with collecting a gold medal at the Haringey Box Cup.

    He made his professional debut, facing Matthew James Hall (UK) at Guild Hall, Preston on March 31, 2018.

    Sahir won the contest on points after the fourth and final round. He has gone onto complete seven more consecutive wins at the professional level.

    Umer Khan- 18 year old and British national champion has signed on with Frank Warren

    Amin Jahanzeb

    2 Yorkshire titles and 1 senior national title undefeated is on Frank Warren's roster

    Shabaz Masoud and Muhammad Ali are also two others signed on to Frank Warren's label

    Then you have Kash Farooq who is the WBO bantamweight champion right now in Europe

    You can't tell me Amir Khan and Naseem Hamed are the reasons why there is a boxing obsession rising in a people who are generally living in the most segregated parts of Britain and generally don't assimilate with people.
  • REDEEMER
    Banned
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Oct 2018
    • 11820
    • 1,336
    • 1,008
    • 153,574

    #2
    He’s planning out a territorial warfare with Hearn and has the global world in mind like AJ vs Ruiz territory and thinks boxing will expand beyond the ring and be fought with a group effort in a foreign land where real weapons may be issued.

    Wacky Warren .

    Comment

    • PredatorStyle
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Jul 2019
      • 1060
      • 340
      • 120
      • 8,068

      #3
      He's hoping to get invited to their houses for curry?

      Comment

      • deathofaclown
        Undisputed Champion
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Apr 2015
        • 16310
        • 3,913
        • 50
        • 98,604

        #4
        ****** boxers with roots in the Middle East often bring a good fan base.

        I know lots of guys from Pakistani families that only really watched Khan fights and got a bit into boxing because of him.

        Also I don’t know about today, but when I was a young kid and teenager at my boxing gym I would say about 50% of the young people in the gym were from Pakistani families, even though the area wasn’t near that percentage in population.

        So I do think a lot of the kids start boxing but maybe we are seeing more continue on into the pro game.

        Kind of like gypsies. A lot of the Junior amateur competitions are dominated by gypsies, but when they get to a certain age, they rarely used to really go into the pro game but more and more are now probably because of the likes of Fury and Saunders.

        So, maybe more young Pakistani fighters are carrying on into the pros.

        Comment

        • Ry92
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Oct 2020
          • 1528
          • 265
          • 8
          • 9,783

          #5
          Warrens british for 1 desi population tnere is big. Add in ****** market is growing especially in the big $ regions of arabia so makes sense plus aint like that many arabs are boxing. If anything theyre more into kickboxing. So key to break into middle east is outside of big names is to use ****** athletes ppl of similar culture to the market aiming for.

          Comment

          • OldTimers
            Amateur
            Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
            • Nov 2020
            • 7
            • 0
            • 0
            • 1,640

            #6
            Originally posted by Ry92
            Warrens british for 1 desi population tnere is big. Add in ****** market is growing especially in the big $ regions of arabia so makes sense plus aint like that many arabs are boxing. If anything theyre more into kickboxing. So key to break into middle east is outside of big names is to use ****** athletes ppl of similar culture to the market aiming for.
            This makes sense in terms of a marketing perspective, but from what I've seen, British Indians are virtually nonexistent in the British boxing scene despite their large population. There is at least 2 boxers of Yemeni origin which are in the ranks with rest being of Pakistani origin but Indians and other Arabs are almost nonexistent, even Naseem Hamed was a Yemeni. As far as I've seen, 98% of Pakistanis live completely different lives and existence from Indians in the UK. The Indians are concentrated mostly in Southall and London. The Pakistanis are all in the most rundown areas where the old mills use to operate at. I've seen most Indians having a negative attitude towards Amir. There is more chances of Amir having white and black fans than Indian, not to mention Indians absolutely no interest in boxing at all and neither do Arab people either with the exception being Yemeni Arabs. The WBC just opened up a middle east branch and made Amir the CEO of the branch. The Arab oil money added with the Pakistani obsession and poverty in Britain with many promoters such as Warren and Hearn signing so many on to the roster means we are bound to see a lot more of them trying to challenge the American dominance of the game more than the Asian Filipinos since Filipinos have talent such as Manny Pacquaio at the lower levels but they have no funding or promoters. The Pakistanis will be funded by the oil rich Arabs and Warren will listen when millions of pounds are there on the line. I wouldn't be surprised if Bob Arum from Top Rank joins this money making train. You should see the ****** vs *** marketing that was happening when Amir was fighting Salita from New York in the past. The Middle East is a market for rivalry of fights between the East and West. There is ******s in parts of Malaysia and Singapore too who will support their own fighters on the worldwide stage. Unfortunately most Arabs are generally not motivated enough for boxing, are more interested in other sports, or their parents have this idea that boxing damages a person's body and is dangerous for them to get involved in it.

            Comment

            • EL_cano
              Welterweight Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Oct 2009
              • 1256
              • 29
              • 32
              • 13,842

              #7
              Originally posted by OldTimers
              This makes sense in terms of a marketing perspective, but from what I've seen, British Indians are virtually nonexistent in the British boxing scene despite their large population. There is at least 2 boxers of Yemeni origin which are in the ranks with rest being of Pakistani origin but Indians and other Arabs are almost nonexistent, even Naseem Hamed was a Yemeni. As far as I've seen, 98% of Pakistanis live completely different lives and existence from Indians in the UK. The Indians are concentrated mostly in Southall and London. The Pakistanis are all in the most rundown areas where the old mills use to operate at. I've seen most Indians having a negative attitude towards Amir. There is more chances of Amir having white and black fans than Indian, not to mention Indians absolutely no interest in boxing at all and neither do Arab people either with the exception being Yemeni Arabs. The WBC just opened up a middle east branch and made Amir the CEO of the branch. The Arab oil money added with the Pakistani obsession and poverty in Britain with many promoters such as Warren and Hearn signing so many on to the roster means we are bound to see a lot more of them trying to challenge the American dominance of the game more than the Asian Filipinos since Filipinos have talent such as Manny Pacquaio at the lower levels but they have no funding or promoters. The Pakistanis will be funded by the oil rich Arabs and Warren will listen when millions of pounds are there on the line. I wouldn't be surprised if Bob Arum from Top Rank joins this money making train. You should see the ****** vs *** marketing that was happening when Amir was fighting Salita from New York in the past. The Middle East is a market for rivalry of fights between the East and West. There is ******s in parts of Malaysia and Singapore too who will support their own fighters on the worldwide stage. Unfortunately most Arabs are generally not motivated enough for boxing, are more interested in other sports, or their parents have this idea that boxing damages a person's body and is dangerous for them to get involved in it.
              To sum up what you said “ boxing legends are found in impoverish small towns/cities/ states/countries.

              Only the most hungriest boxers will be the most known of all time.

              Comment

              • OldTimers
                Amateur
                Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
                • Nov 2020
                • 7
                • 0
                • 0
                • 1,640

                #8
                Originally posted by EL_cano
                To sum up what you said “ boxing legends are found in impoverish small towns/cities/ states/countries.

                Only the most hungriest boxers will be the most known of all time.
                This is true, but being from a third world country and loving to box isn't going to pay for your trainer, diet, and exposure on to the scene. Manny Pacquaio was launched after reaching LA, he would have been fighting Thai journeymen in makeshift arenas in fish markets around Thailand if he never arrived in America.

                Comment

                • EL_cano
                  Welterweight Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1256
                  • 29
                  • 32
                  • 13,842

                  #9
                  Originally posted by OldTimers
                  This is true, but being from a third world country and loving to box isn't going to pay for your trainer, diet, and exposure on to the scene. Manny Pacquaio was launched after reaching LA, he would have been fighting Thai journeymen in makeshift arenas in fish markets around Thailand if he never arrived in America.
                  Wanheng Menayothin 55-0 TBE.

                  Comment

                  • Earl-Hickey
                    Banned
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 29031
                    • 2,832
                    • 1,384
                    • 297,750

                    #10
                    I love how you JUST KNOW they are all packing glass

                    Like I'm sorry we all know it's true

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    TOP