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  • Doubledagger
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    #61
    Originally posted by Death_Adder
    What a bìtch hing to say. Aren't you your own boss? Don't you make your own decisions?

    That's why nobody will remember him.
    Which part makes him a *****?

    Is it the part where he said "line em up?"

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    • Ray*
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      #62
      All of them are like speak to Al, then they claim they are their own bosses. A bit of a contradiction there. It’s getting boring now, none of them is chasing legacy, how about the other Charlo chasing all the belts at 154, that’s what I want to see and hear. Not “Speak to me promoter Bob Arum” or am my own boss, then when push comes to shove its “Call Al”

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      • Dean_Razorback
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        #63
        can they just talk to you?

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        • Sid-Knee
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          #64
          Originally posted by JLC
          Umm, what ?

          He BEGGED for the Thurman from the time Mayweather was still active up until the point Thurman lost his belt. Thurman wouldn’t take it.

          He’s beaten both Kell Brook AND Shawn Porter.

          He’s fighting Danny Garcia. ONLY because Danny wouldn’t fight him earlier. Spence has been the most eager champion I’ve seen in recent years to unify belts.

          It is all of TWO names he has not fought. And that is Crawford and Pacquiao.

          Pacquiao was not trying to fight Spence. He came to PBC and fought the two guys that he wanted to fight. Broner, and Thurman.

          Crawford is with Top Rank. So as much as you WANT to blame Spence and ONLY Spence for that fight not happening, I personally don’t think that’s realistic.

          He has done 2 PPVs now, and is going on his third, which would give him 3 pretty successful PPV events.

          Crawford has 1 PPV that bombed. Spence is (rightfully) asking for the lions share of the PPV split being a unified world champ, with better opposition, more options, and more PPVs.

          How is it that you’re calling Spence a duck ? And this is coming from a Crawford fan.




          Why wouldn’t he ? Al is still the person that organizes the fights.
          Kell Brook was a shell, but still it was a close fight. Had it been a prime Kell, Spence would have lost wide. Then people were saying the Porter fight was a mismatch that Spence would dominate and then produce a KO, but instead, Porter won the fight and Spence got the gift. I knew it would be a tough and close fight, just didn't know how much Porter wanted it these days. But yeah, Porter won that. Spence looked like shlt and is clearly a hype job ready for the taking any time now.

          Why would Thurman fight Spence after he only had about 10 fights back then? It was the usual American bullshlt they use to build their name when they clearly have no intention of taking those kind of fights at that point.

          Who cares about Danny Garcia these days? He's nothing but a decent fighter. He hasn't had a win of any merit since Khan years ago. He's no longer a good win at world level for anyone unless Danny can get a world class win. And that isn't going to happen.

          Spence has been the most eager fighter to unify in recent memory for you? Is that some kind of joke or something? Crawford is ready and waiting for a unification in a fight that fans want the most at the weight. All they have to do is stop the mutual ducking and split the money 50/50. Neither are big sellers. neither is really bigger than the other. It's just the usual ducking from Americans we get all the f3cking time without fail. It's a good fight and nothing more. It will never be a super fight. Nor will the fight produce fireworks as they'll be far too cautious to engage that much and just look to nick a win in a boring fight.

          Spence should stop messing about and get the fight on instead of picking weaker foes and smaller guys if he wants to prove himself. I'm sick of his talking with nothing to show for it.

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            #65
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            Spence has proven himself to be a bigger PPV draw than Terence Crawford. Its not even close, Crawford's PPV with Amir Khan bombed.

            And Crawford's own promoter is even saying publicly that he is losing money on him.

            Under those conditions a 60-40 split is more than fair. 55-45 might be possible but only if Spence is feeling generous, he is under no obligation to give money away to someone that can't attract buys.
            You never thought this about that nobody Wilder though did you? You thought the clown was worth 50/50. Haha.

            This fight should be split 50/50. Neither are bigger than the other. Crawford bombing on PPV due to fighting a shot Khan is something Spence would do too. If Crawford had the chance to fight Mikey, although smaller, he would do the same numbers as Spence.

            These cowards should get it on and stop f3cking around. Another fight going to waste due to American cowardice isn't going to help the sport on your end. In fact, with all this cowardice and delusion, you've pretty much already killed it. Well done.

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            • JLC
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              #66
              Originally posted by Offline
              When Bud ran up on him he said he was his own boss. Errol fought two guys that matter at 147 and now he’s doing what Thurman did to him. He also openly avoided Bud and chose the “easy route” in Porter.
              Damn. Brook, Porter, and Garcia are the easy route. Bet.

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                #67
                Originally posted by rudy
                The point is Errol is correct he is free agent how you think he got the brook fight, Crawford needs to know it is Arum holding him back
                by being the IBF mandatory.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  All of them are like speak to Al, then they claim they are their own bosses. A bit of a contradiction there. It’s getting boring now, none of them is chasing legacy, how about the other Charlo chasing all the belts at 154, that’s what I want to see and hear. Not “Speak to me promoter Bob Arum” or am my own boss, then when push comes to shove its “Call Al”
                  All the belts at 154 were already under PBC. I doubt he would have chased them if they were across the street.

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                  • JLC
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Offline
                    When Bud ran up on him he said he was his own boss. Errol fought two guys that matter at 147 and now he’s doing what Thurman did to him. He also openly avoided Bud and chose the “easy route” in Porter.
                    And now he’s fighting a third. Thurman was unwilling to fight Spence. Thurman could have fought him instead of Porter, and instead of Garcia. He didnt. Still, at that time Thurman had the best resume in the division from fighting those guys, outside of Pacquaio.

                    I will say that when Thurman was refusing to fight Errol there was a period where both guys were champs. If Errol isn’t trying to fight Keith right now so what ? He’s no longer a champ. We forget real quick how Thurman was saying “I don’t want Spence next. Or the fight after. Or the fight after. Maybe in 2021.” He said that in 2019 !

                    Spence was eager to unify with Thurman. Eager to unify with Porter. Easy fights to be made within the PBC. Maybe I’m just not keen on trusting Arum when he says stuff, but I just don’t put all the blame on Spence / Haymon for the Crawford fight not taking shape.

                    One guy has a plethora of solid fights that will make money on PPV available to him, two belts, a recent history of profitable PPVs and attendance, and likely ANOTHER successful PPV coming up in a few weeks.

                    The other guy has one belt, hasn’t fought any solid names in the division, no profitable PPVs, and now to add insult to injury his crooked promoter is trashing his name and taking a fat 89 year old **** on his financial viability as a fighter.

                    If this isn’t a 60/40 deal I don’t know what is. My hope is that Bob can get Pacquaio in the ring w Crawford to get him 2 belts. Crawford leaves Top rank. Spence beats Garcia in December, and we have Spence v Crawford in 2021.

                    I’m a fan of both. I def enjoy watching Crawford more and think he wins the fight. But if I’m being honest, There’s no way I can call Spence a duck for this **** not happening yet. Plenty of blame to go around as usual in this sport.

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                    • Oldskoolg
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by JLC
                      Damn. Brook, Porter, and Garcia are the easy route. Bet.
                      Lol bingo my man bingo

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